Re: CSStorage containers for CS

2008-07-21 Thread Ode Coyote
Someone in the UK [while discussing if one could sell CS as a mineral water] told me that for water to be sold as mineral water, it must have a minimum amount of calcium in it. Ode At 03:06 PM 7/19/2008 +0100, you wrote: I bought mineral water in plastic bottles and *did* have a problem

Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

2008-07-21 Thread Ode Coyote
As the great Nauga is valued for it's hide, so may be the lowly Magnesia for its milk. An Epsom swimming in salt water underfoot may be of value as well. Ode At 02:13 PM 7/19/2008 -0500, you wrote: For Restless Leg Syndrome I've always heard to add B Vitamins. This little article says

Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria

2008-07-21 Thread Dee
I suppose if we knew *how* silver kills bacteria, then we could find out how they can become resistant. I had always thought that bacteria couldn't become resistant because silver doesn't work in the same way as ABX's. Dee ---Original Message--- From: M. G. Devour Date: 21/07/2008

Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria

2008-07-21 Thread Delmont Neroni
This is the first I have read about silver resistant bacteria. Well, over the millennia, bacteria have adapted to many challenges, so I guess it would not be surprising if they adapted to silver eventually. However, it is not clear that this is immanent. For instance, there is this laboratory

CSDangers of the Internet

2008-07-21 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Many exist for sure. The one pitfall, many miss. At 11:04 AM 7/20/2008, you wrote: Here is information from one article abstract, PubMed number 12829274. There are also a number of related articles available. I have been telling people for years. Learn to recognize the Mainstream sites.

Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria

2008-07-21 Thread Faith Gagne
I thought that silver strangles (so to speak) bacteria. How can bacteria become resistant to non-breathing? I mean, can one become resistant to a pillow over one's airways? Faith g. - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:23

Re: CSDangers of the Internet

2008-07-21 Thread Faith Gagne
I have no doubt that some doctors (being people, after all) lie. But my doctor doesn't lie to me.Faith G. - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:11 AM Subject: CSDangers of the Internet Many exist

RE: CSDangers of the Internet

2008-07-21 Thread jessie70
thanks Wayne, this site is good. Jess -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDangers of the Internet Many exist for sure. The one pitfall, many miss. At 11:04 AM 7/20/2008, you wrote:

Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria

2008-07-21 Thread Michael Zangari
The silver used to produce collodial silver water and silver current is not silver alone. It usually contains something else. The purest silver I've seen on line is 99.99 percent pure. It's the impurity that creates an island of saftey for the bacteria. It evolves very fast. Soon the entire

Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria

2008-07-21 Thread Clayton Family
It does not say the silver become resistant. There are many bacteria that thrive in extreme conditions, and a silver rich environment can qualify as that. It is a specific species found in a mineral deposit in nature, not one in a living body. On Jul 21, 2008, at 6:23 AM, Dee wrote: I

Re: CSDangers of the Internet

2008-07-21 Thread Clayton Family
This sound like Linus Pauling's line of work. He was a great man, and his work is continuing at the U of Oregon. kathryn On Jul 21, 2008, at 7:11 AM, Wayne Fugitt wrote: Many exist for sure. The one pitfall, many miss. At 11:04 AM 7/20/2008, you wrote: Here is information from one article

Re: CSHELP!!!!

2008-07-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
Gwlynda Irek wrote: I have a major problem. I have a bulldog that has white front legs…..he was getting red stains on his leg every time he got in the wet grass. I thought that was could be bacteria on his legs. I decided to soak his front legs in CS and DMSO……well now they are gray and

Re: CSStorage containers for CS

2008-07-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Dee. Thanks for your reply. Yes -- the PET bottles are the hard, clear plastic ones, right? I'm trying to find out if the opaque plastic jugs are still considered to be a poor choice for storing CS. Thanks. MA If you are talking about HDPE, they are

RE: CSMuscle cramps

2008-07-21 Thread Dan Nave
Are your vitamin D levels high enough? Dan -Original Message- From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 9:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMuscle cramps Water is the only thing I have found so far to help with muscle cramps, though I

Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

2008-07-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
Even harder to understand is how one could put a bar of soap under the sheet, and the person not notice it when sleeping on it. Marshall Dee wrote: I cannot see how this can possibly work. What is the science behind it? Dee /---Original Message---/ /*From:*/ chaha

Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria

2008-07-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
Faith Gagne wrote: I thought that silver strangles (so to speak) bacteria. How can bacteria become resistant to non-breathing? I mean, can one become resistant to a pillow over one's airways? Faith g. The ones I have read about, those which are in silver rich soils, have silver ion

Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria

2008-07-21 Thread Faith Gagne
I have never heard of silver rich soil. where is it? Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:44 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria Faith Gagne wrote: I thought that silver

Fw: Re: CSDangers of the Internet

2008-07-21 Thread ohana9
Maybe you would like to consider all the different types of lying that exist ? smile Regards Sandee Peace is easy . . . It is a mind set www.aliveagaingrenada.com - Forwarded message -- From: Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:35:19

Re: Re: CSDangers of the Internet

2008-07-21 Thread Faith Gagne
What on earth for? Faith G. - Original Message - From: oha...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: Fw: Re: CSDangers of the Internet Maybe you would like to consider all the different types of lying that exist ? smile Regards Sandee

CSStorage containers for CS

2008-07-21 Thread marmar845
OK -- I'm confused. Exactly what plastic containers are NOT okay for storing CS? MA -- Original message from Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com: -- If you are talking about HDPE, they are fine. Those are what things like distilled water and milk come

Re: CSStorage containers for CS

2008-07-21 Thread Dee
The ones that have a 3 or a 5 in the little triangle on the bottom of the bottle. If it hasn't got a triangle then it shouldn't be used because you wouldn't know what it was. HDPE is I think, a 2 which is ok. Dee ---Original Message--- From: marmar...@bellsouth.net Date: 21/07/2008

Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria

2008-07-21 Thread Dee
No, I meant the bacteria becoming resistant to the silver. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Clayton Family Date: 21/07/2008 15:47:23 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria It does not say the silver become resistant. There are many bacteria that thrive

Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

2008-07-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
Dee wrote: I cannot see how this can possibly work. What is the science behind it? Dee Possible theory. Leg cramps are caused by xenoestrogens. These are estrogen mimicking compounds found in things like plastics and pesticides. Soap contains a molecule which is oil seeking on one end, and

Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria

2008-07-21 Thread Dee
Well this is what I always believed, or rather that the silver surrounds the enzyme which is used as a primitive lung by the bacteria, so suffocating it. But apparently this is in this 1978 article which I have based my knowledge of silver on, and which has turned out to be largely incorrect, or

Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

2008-07-21 Thread Dee
But would this be effective if the soap were *under* the sheet? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Marshall Dudley Date: 21/07/2008 17:48:21 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome Dee wrote: I cannot see how this can possibly work. What is the science behind

Re: CSDangers of the Internet

2008-07-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
I think he is pointing out the subtleties that can occur at different levels of lying. For instance if a doctor says that there is nothing he can do for a particular person or ailment, does that mean he know of nothing that can help, or that if he were to tell you something that would help,

Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria

2008-07-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
Faith Gagne wrote: I have never heard of silver rich soil. where is it? Faith G. In silver mines, and tailings from silver mines. Most are in the Western part of the US and Canada. Marshall - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To:

CSlugols and weight

2008-07-21 Thread Roger and Lisa Royal
From this site: http://www.quailwoodherbal.com/Lugol.html I quote: Precautions Sudden, large doses of iodine may impair the production of thyroid hormones, causing hypothyroidism temporarily in someone with otherwise normal thyroid function. Although I was only using 2 drops per day it IS

Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria

2008-07-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
Dee wrote: Well this is what I always believed, or rather that the silver surrounds the enzyme which is used as a primitive lung by the bacteria, so suffocating it. But apparently this is in this 1978 article which I have based my knowledge of silver on, and which has turned out to be

Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

2008-07-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
Soap has a vapor pressure. There is even a paper written on it at http://www.springerlink.com/content/81v1n39k1l134k5n/ if you have a membership. Since you can smell soap, that also means that it has a vapor pressure. Basically it means that it sublimes, and since it will slowly sublime,

Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria

2008-07-21 Thread Delmont Neroni
*No-one seems to really know the MO of EIS apparently. If they do, *please* tell me! *Dee Dee: This is what Jonathan Wright has to say about it. I am quoting this from a 2006 newsletter in which he recommends using colloidal silver. I you want, I can send you a copy of the entire

RE: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

2008-07-21 Thread Dan Nave
I wondered about that too. If you put a bar of soap UNDER my mattress, I could probably feel it. I don't think I could feel a pea though... Dan -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:30 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com

RE: CSlugols and weight

2008-07-21 Thread Ernie Patai
I recently sent out a message to the group asking if anyone has heard of or experienced a rare disease called Adult onset Stills. Could anyone please help? :-) Ernie Patai 416-633-2485 yogawither...@rogers.com GoodLife FITNESS CLUBS -Original Message- From: Roger and Lisa Royal

CSbar soap for leg cramps

2008-07-21 Thread Saralou
That's what you use the slivers for, you know, those that are too little to actually use but they clog the drain if you slip. Frugal people collect them to cook down. Here's (link below) where I first read about it. Dr Gott is syndicated in lots of the USA. He's popularized using Vicks Salve

CSEnzymes

2008-07-21 Thread Dee
Does anyone know of a good supplier of pancreatic (lipase in particular) enzymes? Many thanks. Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to:

Re: CSlugols and weight

2008-07-21 Thread Dee
I only had one drop per day. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Roger and Lisa Royal Date: 21/07/2008 18:15:05 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSlugols and weight From this site: http://www.quailwoodherbal.com/Lugol.html I quote: Precautions Sudden, large doses of iodine

Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

2008-07-21 Thread Dee
Now that makes sense Marshall. Maybe its not so incredible after all! Dee ---Original Message--- From: Marshall Dudley Date: 21/07/2008 18:22:11 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome Soap has a vapor pressure. There is even a paper written on it at

Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria

2008-07-21 Thread Dee
Do you know Marshall, I have sent this article to people but didn't really read it properly myself (thinking erroneously, that I knew most of it) Thanks for that, I will now read it *properly*!! Dee ---Original Message--- http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Kill I think pretty

CSSilver resistant bacteria, Silver Rich Soils

2008-07-21 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Faith, At 10:51 AM 7/21/2008, you wrote: I have never heard of silver rich soil. where is it? Faith G. Silver rich soil does not mean the same as a Silver Rich Mine. Being a trace mineral, likely a thimble full or a teaspoon full per acre would be more than enough.

Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria, Silver Rich Soils

2008-07-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
As far as I know, the silver resistant bacteria were initially isolated from silver mines, tailings, and runoffs. See http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=215434 Plasmid-determined silver resistance in Pseudomonas stutzeri isolated from a silver mine.

Re: Re: CSDangers of the Internet

2008-07-21 Thread kmilkowski
Sorry Faith, I'm quite sure your quack can look right at you with a straight face and lie to you. They do it for the money of course. Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: What on earth for? Faith G. - Original Message - From: oha...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com

CSAdult onset Stills

2008-07-21 Thread AScottSilver
Hi Ernie, My search engine came up with the below sites and lots more. Hope this helps, Andy _http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info_ (http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info) _http://stillswebsite.tripod.com/aosd.htm_ (http://stillswebsite.tripod.com/aosd.htm)

RE: CSAdult onset Stills

2008-07-21 Thread Ernie Patai
Andy, thank you so much for the information. I was just overwhelmed with all that is on the net I couldn't find the info I wanted. Would you know of anyone who has had experience with CS and this disease? The person I know is in the Middle East so I wouldn't even know how to address the whole

Re: CSMuscle cramps- Dan

2008-07-21 Thread Clayton Family
Dan, just what does vit D have to do with muscle cramping? Thanks,Kathryn On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Dan Nave wrote: Are your vitamin D levels high enough? Dan -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 9:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMuscle cramps

CSMuscle cramps- Dan ( Hormone D )

2008-07-21 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Kathryn, Dan may give you several specific answers... At 09:00 PM 7/21/2008, you wrote: Dan, just what does vit D have to do with muscle cramping? But, meanwhile, back in the jungle, . I thought everyone knew by now, it is not even a vitamin. ( The

Re: CSAdult onset Stills

2008-07-21 Thread AScottSilver
Hi Ernie, I'm not familiar with still's disease. You might want to try CS. After all, you have nothing to lose. There are three ways to go if you want to give it a try. You can buy ready made CS. You can buy a CS generator and make it yourself. You can build you own CS generator and cut the

CSendomorphins

2008-07-21 Thread Dianne France
Dear Group, I have a question about surgeries and endomorphins. My husband has always been extremely strong and had a high pain tolerance but since his open heart surgery aches and pains bother him terribly. Does surgery use up your endomorphins and you have to build them back up? My dad

Re: CSendomorphins

2008-07-21 Thread bbanever
Dianne, This is a tough call. It's possible that the surgery itself and or the anesthetic used had some type of debilitating effect on his nerves and/or muscles and/or brain cells. This should get better with time... many months would be my guess. Acupuncture might be of benefit both

Re: CSendomorphins

2008-07-21 Thread Dianne France
I got some fish oil for him but he had a terrible time belching with it. He had such a bad time with the fish oil it now is given to the dog--she's doing great. I take the cod liver oil and don't have a real problem. Will try and get the Ginseng. He told me he wasn't going to have to eat