Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

2007-05-10 Thread Dee
My husband too, Kirsten. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Kirsteen Wright Date: 09/05/2007 20:51:08 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You Well I would for one! I get vit B12 injections every 8 weeks as I have pernicious

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

2007-05-10 Thread Garnet
No. Dee wrote: But wouldn't the subjects who are being given the supplements/drugs die or be seriously ill, if not given them? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Garnet Date: 09/05/2007 12:55:02 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

2007-05-10 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On 5/10/07, Garnet garnetri...@granitepoint.net wrote: No. Not sure how on earth you can argue 'no' here. I can assure you that without B12 injections I was seriously ill and would probably be dead by now. In fact I believe it was originally caled 'pernicious' because people used to die from

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

2007-05-10 Thread Garnet
I should have said not always. It's just that this discussion has gone on way too long and I was trying to keep my message short. Janet Kirsteen Wright wrote: On 5/10/07, *Garnet* garnetri...@granitepoint.net mailto:garnetri...@granitepoint.net wrote: No. Not sure how on earth you

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

2007-05-10 Thread Garnet
I reread these messages. My point was that supplements are not the best way to provide nutrients to the body, food is. Dee was twisting the point of the discussion again. Sorry guys, but once again I am off this list, for all the same reasons. It is a waste of time trying to have a logical

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

2007-05-10 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On 5/10/07, Garnet garnetri...@granitepoint.net wrote: I reread these messages. My point was that supplements are not the best way to provide nutrients to the body, food is. Dee was twisting the point of the discussion again. Sorry guys, but once again I am off this list, for all the same

RE: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

2007-05-10 Thread Dan Nave
Dear Janet, No one is going to get agreement from everyone on emotionally charged issues like vegetarianism vs meat eating or any other issue people insist on relating to emotionally - like their pets. Although certain people persist in arguing, many of the rest have learned something from the

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

2007-05-10 Thread Dee
I am baffled. How did I do that? I was only asking a question as far as I am aware. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Garnet Date: 10/05/2007 14:01:50 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You Dee was twisting the point of the

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

2007-05-10 Thread Jodi W Menard
I thought that accusation was very strange Dee. And she said it more than once too! You didn't twist anything Dear. Jodi Dee wrote on 5/10/2007, 10:48 AM: I am baffled. How did I do that? I was only asking a question as far as I am aware. Dee ---Original Message---

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

2007-05-09 Thread Garnet
The supplement are being used the same as a drug, are a drug -- defined as any exogenous substance, not produce in the body, used therapeutically. Vit K is available only by prescription for instance. Janet Dee wrote: But even doctors sometimes give supplements, i.e. Vit B12 or vit K etc.,

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

2007-05-09 Thread Dee
But wouldn't the subjects who are being given the supplements/drugs die or be seriously ill, if not given them? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Garnet Date: 09/05/2007 12:55:02 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

2007-05-09 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On 5/9/07, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: But wouldn't the subjects who are being given the supplements/drugs die or be seriously ill, if not given them? Dee Well I would for one! I get vit B12 injections every 8 weeks as I have pernicious aneamia. My body lacks intrinsic factor which means

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You?

2007-05-08 Thread Ode Coyote
According to some evidence, we didn't evolve and nearly all domestic foods and farm animals are ancient GM. We haven't hit that level of expertise, or, Why back when, there were a whole lot of people who didn't make it before weeding out those who couldn't tolerate the crops.

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

2007-05-08 Thread Dee
But even doctors sometimes give supplements, i.e. Vit B12 or vit K etc., is this different? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Garnet Date: 08/05/2007 01:17:09 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You Because they

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You?

2007-05-07 Thread Dee
This is absolutely devastating if true, and turns everything I have ever thought to be right, on its head! Dee ---Original Message--- From: Garnet Date: 07/05/2007 03:19:41 To: crock_lakhov...@yahoogroups.com; Silver List Subject: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You?

2007-05-07 Thread Garnet
My experience in medical research, as a pharmacologist specializing in neuro-pharmacology is that we often make *ass-umptions that are not borne out by well conducted basic studies. The studies quoted here, although I have not looked into them in detail appear to be well conducted. Basically

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You?

2007-05-07 Thread Dee
So wouldn't this apply to dogs too? Dee ---Original Message--- Food as medicine is a time tested principle. Synthesized supplements are Not. Who knows more about the human system than Mother Nature, certainly not The profit motivated folks who push the supplements. But

CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

2007-05-07 Thread Dee
Hi all you scientific geniuses out there, regarding the article that Janet posted about antioxidants, would this apply to things like minerals i.e. Concentrace, or indeed, iodine supplements, or things like alpha lipoic acid etc., I'm asking because I have just spent a small fortune on these

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You?

2007-05-07 Thread Clayton Family
Just don't get me started. We did not evolve to live with genetically engineered food, but the FDA has permitted it in just about everything. GM medicines don't concern me as much, due to the safety trials involved, but still, not in nature. We also did not evolve to eat pesticides. It is

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You?

2007-05-07 Thread Paula Perry
I do agree with what you say about GMO's. I have been trying to get out the message for a few years. Most people seem to trust Uncle Sam and the FDA. I noticed that you said you wern't worried about the medical GMO's. Unfortunately, I don't think that you can count on the government on that

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You?

2007-05-07 Thread Garnet
Yes but does anyone eat an untainted diet? I doubt that it exists, but we like to believe it does. Janet Dee wrote: So wouldn't this apply to dogs too? Dee ---Original Message--- Food as medicine is a time tested principle. Synthesized supplements are Not. Who knows

Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

2007-05-07 Thread Garnet
Remember that any supplements you do not absorb must be removed from your system. That puts a load on your liver and kidneys. You can also easily unbalance your minerals by taking too much of one and not enough of another. This same is true for most nutrients in the body that are in balance to

CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You?

2007-05-06 Thread Garnet
Ran across this article when reading up on Silica Hydride (couldn't wait DB, had to search). http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19125631.500 If it turns out that antioxidants in food work because they generate health-promoting quantities of free radicals, that would be an ironic