RE: CSPpm question

2008-11-26 Thread Dan Nave
taste in the CS which may be interpreted as bitter. Dan -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:33 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPpm question -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal

Re: CSPpm question

2008-11-24 Thread Ode Coyote
1] *Ramp up to current* take longer in larger volumes of water...more water to bring to the level of conductivity that pulls the electrical current. 2] The better the water is, the longer it takes...exponential runaway curve that gets leveled out by current control, starting out fairly flat in

Re: CSPpm question

2008-11-24 Thread Neville
- Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:02 PM Subject: Re: CSPpm question Morning List, Odes' severely snipped quote: [PS Meters are a pretty bad way to gauge PPMbut it's the best bad way

CSPpm question

2008-11-23 Thread dee
I have just made a new batch of CS in an 8 ounce jar. Usually I use a 16 ounce jar and the TDS meter reads about 7 as a rule. When I made it in the smaller jar, it reads 11 even after four days. The big jar takes about ten hours to make, but the small one takes four. Can anyone explain any

Re: CSPpm question

2008-11-23 Thread Clayton Family
Yes, the smaller amount of water will take much less time to get to the same ppm. I assume you are starting out fresh, so it takes less time to get to the point where the machine puts out a constant amount of silver into the water. Or maybe the water was more conductive that you thought to

Re: CSPPM question ( Worthless Patent )

2008-01-30 Thread mborgert
You make and sell the c/s gel?? How much is it, and what size?? Freight? Mary -- Original message from Sandee George oha...@juno.com: -- Thanks for this one Wayne - so true, I have been making and selling my gel internationally for about seven years now - it is all

Re: CSPPM question

2008-01-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
He has taken what has been discussed here for years, and applied for a patent. No way it could ever stand up in court, nothing new, everything he has in it was common public knowledge. Plus the method of making it is almost identical to the patent I filed for in 1999, which was thrown out as

Re: CSPPM question ( Worthless Patent )

2008-01-29 Thread Sandee George
Thanks for this one Wayne - so true, I have been making and selling my gel internationally for about seven years now - it is all bunkum ! Everyone of the so called patented gels I have seen and tried out of interest - do not come up to my formula - and therein lies the truth. The reality

Re: CSPPM question

2008-01-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
That is the process I was using from 1999 through about 2005. Applied for a patent on it, but was denied as not being anything over the present art. Marshall Clayton Family wrote: I'm not an expert on this sort of thing, but I can see it is a high voltage electrolysis machine with stirring.

Re: CSPPM question ( Worthless Patent )

2008-01-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
Smaller particles affect viruses better than larger ones. Lower ppm EIS tends to have smaller particles. Higher ppm EIS can have a little hydrogen peroxide added to it to make the particles smaller, and thus be even more effective. Marshall Sharlene Miyamura wrote: Wayne: I agree totally

RE: CSPPM question

2008-01-29 Thread Dan Nave
To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPPM question This is the ready-made CS that I buy through a mlm company with the exclusive rights to the 14 ppm, 18 ppm and silver gel through this company that owns the patent. The patent holders also sell the 10 ppm

Re: CSPPM question

2008-01-29 Thread faith gagne
They probably do not look at previous submissions when there are legal fees to be harvested. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:08 AM Subject: Re: CSPPM question He has taken what

Re: CSPPM question

2008-01-29 Thread Scott
. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:08 AM Subject: Re: CSPPM question He has taken what has been discussed here for years, and applied for a patent. No way it could ever stand up in court, nothing new, everything he has

Re: CSPPM question

2008-01-29 Thread Sharlene Miyamura
, January 29, 2008 10:08 AM Subject: Re: CSPPM question He has taken what has been discussed here for years, and applied for a patent. No way it could ever stand up in court, nothing new, everything he has in it was common public knowledge. Plus the method of making it is almost identical

Re: CSPPM question

2008-01-29 Thread Clayton Family
I was thinking you had talked about making a colloidal suspension with HV. This sounded like what you had described previously. Does this really make a colloid, as opposed to an 80/20 ionic solution? I was just wondering, maybe somebody sent some in to the lab for analysis. On another

Re: CSPPM question

2008-01-28 Thread Clayton Family
I don't know about that, but I do know that I made and used about 5 PPM for the first year or so that I used cs, and it worked great. I believe it is not the actual ppm, but the amount of silver total- so if it is 5ppm, you just use more of it, more often. Perhaps the product is different?

Re: CSPPM question

2008-01-28 Thread Sharlene Miyamura
This is the product's patent. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=7,135,195.PN.OS=PN/7,135,195RS=PN/7,135,195 I hope someone can scan it and tell me if it is different from EIS. On Jan 28, 2008 7:26 AM, Clayton

Re: CSPPM question

2008-01-28 Thread Clayton Family
I'm not an expert on this sort of thing, but I can see it is a high voltage electrolysis machine with stirring. It claims to make a mostly colloidal suspension, with little ions. I am not familiar with high voltage machines. But EIS = electrically isolated silver (but it really refers to

Re: CSPPM question

2008-01-28 Thread Sharlene Miyamura
This is the ready-made CS that I buy through a mlm company with the exclusive rights to the 14 ppm, 18 ppm and silver gel through this company that owns the patent. The patent holders also sell the 10 ppm on the general market but I was told that the 10 ppm would be better for viruses and not to

CSPPM question ( Worthless Patent )

2008-01-28 Thread Wayne Fugitt
18 ppm and silver gel through this company that owns the patent. The patent holders also sell the 10 ppm on the general market but I was told that the 10 ppm would be better for viruses and not to mention much cheaper. The patent is a fraud, worthless, and more. For one simple reason, it

Re: CSPPM question ( Worthless Patent )

2008-01-28 Thread Sharlene Miyamura
Wayne: I agree totally with what you're saying, I don't give a hoot about the patent anyway. My main reason for writing was if anyone had heard about the low level of ppm affecting the virus more effectively than the bacteria, but I guess not. I thought by sending the patent someone could look

CSPPM question

2008-01-27 Thread Sharlene Miyamura
Would the level of ppm have any bearing on it's effectivenss on whether it is a virus or bacteria? I've heard another forum that the higher the ppm is, the less effective it is on a virus but more effective on bacteria. Is there any truth to this? So some are preferring to go with the 10-14 ppm

CSppm question

2003-03-24 Thread jrowland
If I add an equal amount of distilled water to my 10ppm CS, would I be correct in assuming the result to be 5ppm? Thanks, jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your