Re: CS>CS and H2O2 Questions

2010-05-14 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
When I added some H202 to my slightly yellow CS, it went sludge green! I kept on adding but it went sort of silvery with lots of bubbles, but never came clear. dee On 14 May 2010, at 11:38, Ode Coyote wrote: > At 10:48 AM 5/13/2010 -0700, you wrote: >> Anyone, >> >> I have been reading that

Re: CS>CS and H2O2 Questions

2010-05-14 Thread Ode Coyote
At 10:48 AM 5/13/2010 -0700, you wrote: Anyone, I have been reading that adding a small amount of 3% drugstore peroxide to CS will reduce the particle size greatly and increase the benefits of the CS. 1. How much peroxide to how much CS? ## About 6 drops @ 3% per quart 2. What evidence

Re: CS>CS and H2O2 Questions

2010-05-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I have done this recently Dick, because I had a batch of CS go pale yellow. The result was after putting in a few drops of homemade 3% (35% H202 plus distilled water) and it turned a murky green. I then kept adding drops until I got a silvery grey colour which had loads of air bubbles in. The

Re: CS>CS and H2O2 Questions

2010-05-13 Thread Marshall Dudley
Dick Rochon wrote: Anyone, I have been reading that adding a small amount of 3% drugstore peroxide to CS will reduce the particle size greatly and increase the benefits of the CS. 1. How much peroxide to how much CS? Typically a few drops for a glass of water, 1/2 teaspoon per gallon, not

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2007-11-08 Thread Ode Coyote
At 10:55 AM 11/7/2007 -0600, you wrote: Wow- that is one cool picture. Do you add h2o2 to every batch? I only add it when it is turning color. Maybe I could add it everytime. ## I do whatever occurs to me at the time. ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2007-11-07 Thread Clayton Family
Wow- that is one cool picture. Do you add h2o2 to every batch? I only add it when it is turning color. Maybe I could add it everytime. On Nov 7, 2007, at 6:17 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: I find that around 6 drops of 3% to the quart added at least 2 or 3 days after the batch is done, does the

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2007-11-07 Thread Ode Coyote
I find that around 6 drops of 3% to the quart added at least 2 or 3 days after the batch is done, does the job. It can take several hours, even days, to complete that job. Add a drop to a sample. If it shows a fast reaction [white or brown murky], wait longer. Micrographs thanks to

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2007-11-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ian Davies wrote: >So would you say that EIS with H2O2 added is safe to use as you would use EIS with nothing added? If so, how much H2O2 should be added and when should it be added? I use couple of drops for a 4 oz glass, 1/2 teaspoon for a gallon, and 1/2 cup for 55 gallon drum. Marshall

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2005-04-30 Thread Ode Coyote
> >> but only if the CS is very fresh. >> In day or 2 old CS, the HP does nothing noticeable unless it's yellow. > >In that case, what is the conductivity? After two days, is it still 20 uS, 5 >uS, or somthing else? Does the conductivity not drop at all when H2O2 is added? ## The conductivity d

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2005-04-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ode Coyote wrote: > To quantify that 'conductivity' drop a bit...20 uS goes to about 6 uS > almost instantly with the addition of a very tiny [less than a drip] amount > of 3% H2O2 in a quart... Lets see. If the initial EIS was 10% colloidal and it dropped the conductivity by a factor of 3.33,

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2005-04-29 Thread Ode Coyote
To quantify that 'conductivity' drop a bit...20 uS goes to about 6 uS almost instantly with the addition of a very tiny [less than a drip] amount of 3% H2O2 in a quart...but only if the CS is very fresh. In day or 2 old CS, the HP does nothing noticeable unless it's yellow. If it's yellow, it go

RE: CS>CS and H2O2

2005-04-28 Thread know
@king-cart.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>CS and H2O2 Do you have any idea what the ppm of the CS was? I believe it is likely that it was a fairly high concentration, so that when the H2O2 broke down the colloidal particles, the solubility

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2005-04-28 Thread Tel Tofflemire
I don't coment too much (lack of time) but today I see someone where I was many years ago, so I will add my 2 cents for what its worth. 3 drops into how much CS ?...If it is more than 8 OZ that is not enough to do much...It seems to be as effective or even more with H2O2, 3 % H2O2 is really week

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2005-04-28 Thread Marshall Dudley
Hmm, if the ppms drop like a stone at the same time that the coudiness forms, then there may be something else at work here. Maybe the H2O2 converts the silver hydroxide into silver oxide faster than it can convert back, and that drops the solubility from 26 or so ppm to about 13 ppm since we will

RE: CS>CS and H2O2

2005-04-28 Thread Ode Coyote
The "conductivity" drops like a rock...PPM doesn't change. Meters read conductivity, not PPM. The two aren't the same thing. They can be similar. The 'whens, whats and hows' of similarities are something that no one wants to talk about. It's not really all that hard to get it close, but it does

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2005-04-28 Thread Ode Coyote
You added it too soon. Wait a day. Adding a little that soon will make it white/cloudy. a little more..brown/cloudy even more...clear again. Adding H2O2 that soon might be beneficial..maybe not. But it does prove beyond doubt that fresh EIS [CS] is different than that which a day or so old. I

RE: CS>CS and H2O2

2005-04-27 Thread Ernie Patai
Yes Kent, same experience. The cloudiness varies I think according to how high the ppm is, from my experience anyway. It will dissipate in a few day to a week; The ppm's drop like a stone almost right after adding the H2O2. This is normal from what Ode tells Doesn't effect the concentration of pote

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2005-04-27 Thread Marshall Dudley
Do you have any idea what the ppm of the CS was? I believe it is likely that it was a fairly high concentration, so that when the H2O2 broke down the colloidal particles, the solubility limit of silver hydroxide and silver oxide was exceeded, causing precipitation of a silver oxide suspension. If

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2004-08-29 Thread Ode Coyote
A clue may lie in the way that H2O2 neutralizes chlorinated water. Ode At 10:23 AM 8/27/2004 -0400, you wrote: >3 or 4 days ago I had mixed up 3 batches of EIS and Salt. The first I >added H2O2 to then NaCl, the second NaCl then H2O2 the the third NaCl with >no H2O2 at all. After a couple of

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2004-08-27 Thread Marshall Dudley
3 or 4 days ago I had mixed up 3 batches of EIS and Salt. The first I added H2O2 to then NaCl, the second NaCl then H2O2 the the third NaCl with no H2O2 at all. After a couple of minutes they all looked alike (which is odd, before the one that had H2O2 add first was less turbulent), so I figured

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2004-08-26 Thread Mike Monett
Re: CS>CS and H2O2 From: Jason Eaton Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:49:44 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72909.html > Hi Marshall: > On three occasions, I utilized a low PPM highly ionic EIS made > with the old silverpuppy generator. > I added a few drops o

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2004-08-26 Thread Jason Eaton
on with the particles can go on for days, likely even weeks with enough h2o2. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 11:49 AM Subject: Re: CS>CS and H2O2 > Jason Eaton wrote: > > > Hi Marsall: >

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2004-08-24 Thread Marshall Dudley
Jason Eaton wrote: > Hi Marsall: > > I've been following everyone's analysis of the h2o2 silver issue with > interest. > > There appears to be a great problem when trying to theoretically analyze the > chemical equation associated with the silver h2o2 reactions. > > To sum the problem up, there ar

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2004-08-24 Thread Jason Eaton
Hi Marsall: I've been following everyone's analysis of the h2o2 silver issue with interest. There appears to be a great problem when trying to theoretically analyze the chemical equation associated with the silver h2o2 reactions. To sum the problem up, there are different reactions that occur de

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2003-04-13 Thread MARIANO DELISE
This is exactly correct, Nancy - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:56 AM Subject: CS>CS and H2O2 Dear list, I need some clarification. I have been under the impression that if your colloidal silver was y

RE: CS>CS and H2O2

2003-04-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
There is not a problem with the particle size of yellow or even gold CS. However, the darker and redder the CS is, the more likely that it is not very stable, and will settle out. That being said, I still have 10 Litres of yellow CS at 22ppm, that was made in 1998. Only add H2O2 if your solution

Re: CS>CS and H2O2

2003-04-11 Thread Ode Coyote
Color does indicate particle size but not all the particles will be that size. Pale yellow has a few of the larger particles and many many smaller ones. Yellow particles are larger but not necessarily too large. No color is preferable but it all works. If you get violet or reddish..toss it.

Re: CS>CS and H2o2

2003-04-08 Thread Ode Coyote
I once used peroxide as a means to raise the initial conductivity of the water when making CS. [aka "seeding"..sorta] Never again! It made some very nice shiny silver metal flakes suitable for a custom paint job or one of those snow scene paper weights, but not suitable for consumption.

Re: CS>CS and H2o2

2003-04-08 Thread Ode Coyote
Water temperatures over about 110 deg F are not recommeded for that reason. Probably excessive Brownian motion causes particle collisions if there are enough of them to collide. About 8 drops of h2o2 will probably clear it up in a day or so. Too much and you'll definitely make faces when yo

Re: CS>CS and H2o2

2003-04-07 Thread INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
very funny your thinking of useing h202 with CS. last night i made CS with h2o2 rather than useing distilled water. i'm not sure of my result. it just appeared to clean one electrode and turn the other electrode a white then a light yellow. and that's pretty much it. if anyone has done this or h

Re: CS>cs and h2o2

2002-12-20 Thread Tony Moody
Yeah, Right. I use battery acid, undiluted and heated up to boiling. Three times a day. The holes grow back in minutes. No Problem. By the way where do you get 70% H2O2. Cape Canaveral? > At 08:29 PM 12/19/02 -0500, you wrote: > >On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:13:15 -0500, gimpy wrote: > > > > > 1 drop

Re: CS>cs and h2o2

2002-12-20 Thread Roy Thompson
LOL! I mix up a solution of lye and distilled water to make my home-made lye soap. Perhaps that could acquire a Darwin Award much faster. :) - Original Message - From: "Malcolm Stebbins" To: Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 3:20 AM Subject: Re: CS>cs and h2o2 > Desk

Re: CS>cs and h2o2

2002-12-20 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
Deskinistration? An attempt to go for the annual Darwin award? At 08:29 PM 12/19/02 -0500, you wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:13:15 -0500, gimpy wrote: > 1 drop of 70% h2o2 on your skin, repeated twice a day >will create a sore, eat the top loyer of skin off. I would not use >h2o2 in my eyes w

Re: CS>cs and h2o2

2002-12-19 Thread CKing001
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:13:15 -0500, gimpy wrote: > 1 drop of 70% h2o2 on your skin, repeated twice a day >will create a sore, eat the top loyer of skin off. I would not use >h2o2 in my eyes with out expert supervision. >I have done the drop on the skin thing as a demenstration. 70%h2o2?? On your

Re: CS>cs and h2o2

2002-12-19 Thread gimpy
Just my 2 cents. I would not put anything in my eyes that is not sterile. 1 drop of 70% h2o2 on your skin, repeated twice a day will create a sore, eat the top loyer of skin off. I would not use h2o2 in my eyes with out expert supervision. I have done the drop on the skin thing as a demenstration.

Re: CS>cs and h2o2 - ? for the chemists

2002-12-06 Thread Ian Roe
Hi: Where might one obtain stabilized Oxygen? Ian Roe - Original Message - From: "Kevin & Glenda" To: Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 5:45 PM Subject: Re: CS>cs and h2o2 - ? for the chemists > I realize that it might be not the best mix. But there are nat

Re: CS>cs and h2o2 - ? for the chemists

2002-12-06 Thread Kevin & Glenda
I realize that it might be not the best mix. But there are naturopaths and other practitioners that are telling people to use stabilized oxygen in CS and I was just wanting to know if this was safe, since people claim that colloidal silver reacts with other elements. Glenda Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:

Re: CS>cs and h2o2

2002-12-05 Thread MARIANO DELISE
What would be the purpose of ingesting chlorine? People are putting silve and CS into hot tubs and swimming pools to eleminate the use of chlorine completely. Nancy - Original Message - From: "Kevin & Glenda" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re:

Re: CS>cs and h2o2

2002-12-04 Thread Kevin & Glenda
Hi to who ever, I would like to ask a question about using stabilized oxygen (not H2O2), but stabilized with chlorine. Is it safe to mix it with CS and take internally? Would the chlorine and silver form any new compounds? - Original Message - > From: "MARIANO DELISE" >I've begun put

Re: CS>cs and h2o2

2002-12-03 Thread S & J Young
pj, Try the same thing with plain distilled water & see if it still turns milky. This will tell you if the H2O2 is reacting with the garbage the comes out of your coffee filter. Filtering is really not needed. Just let your fresh brew sit overnight and the electrode "sluffings" will settle to t

Re: CS>cs and h2o2

2002-12-03 Thread MARIANO DELISE
I've begun putting the H202 in the CS the night before I use it, by morning it is clear. - Original Message - From: "Robb Allen" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:58 AM Subject: Re: CS>cs and h2o2 > Hi..from what I've learned.if it doesn

Re: CS>cs and h2o2

2002-12-03 Thread Robb Allen
Hi..from what I've learned.if it doesn't turn clear after adding H202...if you add more it always turns clear...the cloudiness in my experience means that there wasn't enough to do the reaction...Robb - Original Message - From: "Shirley Reed" To: Sent: Tuesday,

Re: CS>cs and h2o2

2001-10-20 Thread Jason / AVRA
with constant emails such as this - yet I feel I must address things as they are brought up. ----- Original Message - From: "Mike Monett" To: Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 5:13 PM Subject: Re: CS>cs and h2o2 > Hi Jason, > > Thank you for the very balanced reply. Actual

Re: CS>cs and h2o2

2001-10-20 Thread Mike Monett
Hi Jason, Thank you for the very balanced reply. Actually, I can duplicate the effect of taking cs and H2O2. I simply go for a walk. And I agree, the results are wonderful! I can make more H2O2 by running, and less by simply watching the girls go by. Oops - that may not be a good example. I th

Re: CS>cs and h2o2

2001-10-20 Thread Jason / AVRA
introduction to colloidal silver and H2O2 - not a page on H2O2 therapy in general. But, on thinking about it, I tend to agree with you - there is never any harm in taking the high road. - Original Message - From: "Mike Monett" To: Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 12:39 PM Subject:

Re: CS>cs and h2o2

2001-10-20 Thread Mike Monett
Hi Jason, I'm really disappointed they decided to add that page for beginners. They do not give adequate information for anyone to evaluate the health risk. They also fail to insist that anyone taking H2O2 also take antioxidants. Here is a quote from http://stopcancer.com/

Re: CS>cs and h2o2

2001-10-20 Thread Jason / AVRA
Shirley: Although it may appear confusing at first, you may want to take a look at the program I wrote to determine concentration strengths for colloidal silver and hydrogen peroxide. http://silverdata.20m.com/conversionform2.html In your example, if you take two drops of hydrogen peroxide and a