Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error / Documentation

2008-04-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Knut Schwichtenberg wrote: > But now I back to the documentation: > > > Michael Hennebry wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, Knut Schwichtenberg wrote: > >> BTW: Some month ago I asked the readers of this list to comment on a > >> documentation update. Either my English is perfect

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error / Documentation

2008-04-25 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Knut Schwichtenberg wrote: Hi gang, Okay, being back from the holiday trip, I read a lot comments to simulavrxx. Lots of good points. As and add-on to the Makefile story: Klaus can you please add your makefile to a separate tree within the CVS so pepole can decide which tool to struggle with?

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error / Documentation

2008-04-25 Thread Knut Schwichtenberg
Hi gang, Okay, being back from the holiday trip, I read a lot comments to simulavrxx. Lots of good points. As and add-on to the Makefile story: Klaus can you please add your makefile to a separate tree within the CVS so pepole can decide which tool to struggle with? But now I back to the docum

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-22 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Joerg Wunsch schrieb: As Klaus Rudolph wrote: Build it with MinGW / MSYS so Windows users can use it Like to hear that :-) But I have no windows system running since now more than 10 years. But it's a legitimate request to have at least a flexible enough build system around to accompli

RE: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-21 Thread William Rivet
7;t have) Cheers, Bill On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 11:30 -0600, Weddington, Eric wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Klaus Rudolph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 12:15 AM > > To: Weddington, Eric > > Cc: Michael N. Moran; simula

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-21 Thread Joerg Wunsch
As Klaus Rudolph wrote: > >Build it with MinGW / MSYS so Windows users can use it > Like to hear that :-) But I have no windows system running since now > more than 10 years. But it's a legitimate request to have at least a flexible enough build system around to accomplish that kind of task,

RE: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-21 Thread Weddington, Eric
> -Original Message- > From: Klaus Rudolph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 12:15 AM > To: Weddington, Eric > Cc: Michael N. Moran; simulavr-devel@nongnu.org; Dhruvesh Patel > Subject: Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error > > Hi Eric,

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-20 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi Eric, Lets finish all the discussions... what is actually required from the "outside world"? As I said: "My" simulavrxx is running fine on multiple unix systems. What is needed from the others??? What can I do now to get your problems solved? Build it with MinGW / MSYS so Windows user

RE: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-18 Thread Weddington, Eric
> -Original Message- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > u.org] On Behalf Of Klaus Rudolph > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:50 AM > To: Michael N. Moran > Cc: simulavr-devel@nongnu.org; Dhruvesh Patel > Subject: Re: [Simulavr-deve

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-17 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Klaus Rudolph wrote: > My wish is very simple: > Let the user use simulavrxx. Is there a problem having Makefile, > autotools and CMake in parallel and a well documented way how to use them? Documentaion, what a wonderful idea. (*) > For "my" Makefile it is simple: > edit co

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-16 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Now we are ending again in a discussion... From my point of view I will not replace autotools against CMake or a Makefile against autotools or what ever. My wish is very simple: Let the user use simulavrxx. Is there a problem having Makefile, autotools and CMake in parallel and a well documen

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-16 Thread William Rivet
lol! Ok everyone. Plutonium is bad...I can't figure out how to get autotools to behave as anything other than that...perhaps I'm just dumb in this area or just didn't devote enough time to understanding all the bits... So..Klaus has a set of makefiles. I'd be happy to have them in and explained

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-16 Thread Michael N. Moran
Michael Hennebry wrote: On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Michael N. Moran wrote: A reliable familiar way to build simulavrxx. :-) e.g. 1) unpack (eg tar xzf) 2) configure (./configure) 3) make 4) make install My problems seem to derive from step 1.5) run autotools. IIRC having *the* right version of aut

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-16 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Michael N. Moran wrote: > Klaus Rudolph wrote: > > Michael N. Moran schrieb: > >> I understand all sides of the issue ... > >> > >> Software developers (especially embedded software > >> developers) should be comfortable with using make. > >> > >> I hate autotools, however, th

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-16 Thread Michael N. Moran
Klaus Rudolph wrote: Michael N. Moran schrieb: I understand all sides of the issue ... Software developers (especially embedded software developers) should be comfortable with using make. I hate autotools, however, they are ubiquitous in the free software world, and having yet-another syste

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-16 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Michael N. Moran schrieb: Michael Hennebry wrote: On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Klaus Rudolph wrote: Knut Schwichtenberg schrieb: Bill, William Rivet wrote: I'll just pipe in that I'm currently working on replacing the build system for simulavrxx with something more sane via CMake...thanks to a litt

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-16 Thread Michael N. Moran
Michael Hennebry wrote: On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Klaus Rudolph wrote: Knut Schwichtenberg schrieb: Bill, William Rivet wrote: I'll just pipe in that I'm currently working on replacing the build system for simulavrxx with something more sane via CMake...thanks to a little nudging by Michael Buesc

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-16 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Klaus Rudolph wrote: > Knut Schwichtenberg schrieb: > > Bill, > > > > William Rivet wrote: > >> I'll just pipe in that I'm currently working on replacing the build > >> system for simulavrxx with something more sane via CMake...thanks to a > >> little nudging by Michael Buesch

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-16 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, Knut Schwichtenberg wrote: > BTW: Some month ago I asked the readers of this list to comment on a > documentation update. Either my English is perfect - which I can't believe - > or > nobody read it - which can be interpreted as a level of interest in > simulavrxx, > but I di

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-16 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Knut Schwichtenberg schrieb: Bill, William Rivet wrote: I'll just pipe in that I'm currently working on replacing the build system for simulavrxx with something more sane via CMake...thanks to a little nudging by Michael Buesch :-) Early this year I tried to build simulavrxx and got it running

Re: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-15 Thread Knut Schwichtenberg
Bill, William Rivet wrote: I'll just pipe in that I'm currently working on replacing the build system for simulavrxx with something more sane via CMake...thanks to a little nudging by Michael Buesch :-) Early this year I tried to build simulavrxx and got it running under Linux with ordinary mak

RE: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-15 Thread Tom Haber
Just wanted to let you know that I'm interested in simulavr*. In failing to build simulavrxx, I extended simulavr with support for the atmega162 chip I'm currently using. In the process, I also fixed some bugs. I was thinking of adding support for gdb tracepoints when I get the time. Tom On Fri

RE: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-13 Thread William Rivet
Right, sorry if I gave the wrong impression ;-) On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 18:14 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, William Rivet wrote: > > > If there is interest in simulavrxx, pipe up. I tend to spend time on > > this when I get people asking questions (like this :-) ) Depen

RE: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-11 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, William Rivet wrote: > If there is interest in simulavrxx, pipe up. I tend to spend time on > this when I get people asking questions (like this :-) ) Depending on > what Dhruvesh is doing, perhaps he could test out my CMake based build > of simulavrxx. That's a bumpy ride on

RE: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-11 Thread William Rivet
Thanks Eric. I'll just pipe in that I'm currently working on replacing the build system for simulavrxx with something more sane via CMake...thanks to a little nudging by Michael Buesch :-) I'm focused on getting what was working all working under CMake, reviving the test cases, and yes then I'll

RE: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error

2008-04-11 Thread Weddington, Eric
> -Original Message- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > u.org] On Behalf Of Dhruvesh Patel > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:24 AM > To: simulavr-devel@nongnu.org > Subject: [Simulavr-devel] Simulavr error > > Hi, > > I am using winavr tools on Linux for AVR d