Ben: MT: Venter has changed everything
today - including the paradigms that govern both science and AI..
Ben: Lets not overblow things -- please note that Venter's team has not yet
synthesized an artificial organism.
Here's why I think Venter's so important - to quote a post of mine to an
Ben Goertzel wrote:
(in part)
Or will we be protected by the same sociopsychological dynamics that have
kept DC from being nuked so far: the intersection of folks with a terrorist
mindset and folks with scientific chops is surprisingly teeny...
Thoughts?
-- Ben G
Could it be that
Craig
Venter co creating a new genome -
Just to be clear: They did not create a new genome, rather they are re-creating
a subset of a previously existing one...
is an example of the genetic keyboard
playing on itself, i.e. one genome [Craig Venter] has played with another
genome and will
Samantha: MT: You've been fooled by the puppet. It doesn't work without the
puppeteer. Samantha:What's that, elan vitale, a soul, a
consciousness that is
independent of the puppet?
It's significant that you make quite the wrong assumption. You too are
fooled. The puppeteer is the human
Quoting Samantha Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Jan 26, 2008, at 11:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Natasha Vita-More [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
At 03:04 PM 1/24/2008, Gudrun wrote:
and N. Vita-More
This is confusing. Fine that extropians want to self-improve. That
ALL humanity should
On Jan 27, 2008 8:40 AM, Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ben: MT: Venter has changed everything
today - including the paradigms that govern both science and AI..
Ben: Lets not overblow things -- please note that Venter's team has not yet
synthesized an artificial organism.
Here's
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Quoting Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Gudrun: I am an artist who is interested in science, in utopia and seemi
ngly
impossible
projects. I also came across a lot of artists with OC traits. ...
The OCAP, actually the obsessive compulsive 'arctificial' project ..
Quoting Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Tom:A computer is not disembodied any more than you are. Silicon, as a
substrate, is fully equivalent to biological neurons in terms of
theoretical problem-solving ability.
You've been fooled by the puppet. It doesn't work without the puppeteer.
And
On Jan 27, 2008 9:18 AM, Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Samantha: MT: You've been fooled by the puppet. It doesn't work without the
puppeteer. Samantha:What's that, elan vitale, a soul, a
consciousness that is
independent of the puppet?
It's significant that you make quite the
Quoting Stathis Papaioannou [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 27/01/2008, Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the evidence of billions of years of evolution says that the mind doesn't
work without the body. No body, no mind. No physics, no psychology, no AI.
If it can't move, it can't think. (And I
On 27 Jan 2008, at 16:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Stathis Papaioannou [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 27/01/2008, Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the evidence of billions of years of evolution says that the mind
doesn't
work without the body. No body, no mind. No physics, no
Hi Mike,
Correction in text,
Simon Baron Cohen, not Sacha Baron Cohen.
Gudrun
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Date: 27 January 2008 15:32:14 GMT
To: singularity@v2.listbox.com
Cc: singularity@v2.listbox.com, Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [singularity] The
Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
we can think about a multi-multiverse, i.e. a collection of multiverses,
with a certain probability distribution over them.
A probability distribution of what?
John K Clark
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On Sunday 27 January 2008, Thomas McCabe wrote:
My computer can happily print out ten gigabytes worth of messages
without any movement at all.
Energy is movement. Even a quantum computer has many moving parts.
- Bryan
Bryan Bishop
http://heybryan.org/
On Jan 27, 2008 9:29 PM, John K Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
we can think about a multi-multiverse, i.e. a collection of multiverses,
with a certain probability distribution over them.
A probability distribution of what?
Exactly. It needs stressing that
On Jan 27, 2008 5:26 PM, Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 27, 2008 9:29 PM, John K Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
we can think about a multi-multiverse, i.e. a collection of multiverses,
with a certain probability distribution over them.
Nesov wrote:
Exactly. It needs stressing that probability is a tool for
decision-making and it has no semantics when no decision enters the
picture.
...
What's it good for if it can't be used (= advance knowledge)? For
other purposes we'd be better off with specially designed random
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