Quoting Vladimir Nesov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On Feb 20, 2008 6:13 AM, Stathis Papaioannou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The possibility of mind uploading to computers strictly depends on
functionalism being true; if it isn't then you may as well shoot
yourself in the head as undergo a destructive
ts in Science Fiction.
A bit of fantasizing should be allowed!!
Gudrun
On 2 Feb 2008, at 08:54, Samantha Atkins wrote:
WTF does this have to do with AGI or Singularity? I hope the AGI
gets here soon. We Stupid Monkeys get damn tiresome.
- samantha
On Jan 29, 2008, at 7:06 AM, gifting
On 29 Jan 2008, at 00:38, Thomas McCabe wrote:
Check out Ramachandran:
"Without a doubt it is one of the most important discoveries ever
made about
the brain, Mirror neurons will do for psychology what DNA did for
biology.
They will provide a unifying framework and help explain a host of
On 29 Jan 2008, at 14:13, Vladimir Nesov wrote:
On Jan 29, 2008 11:49 AM, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OK, but why can't they all be dumped in a single 'normal' multiverse?
If traveling between them is accommodated by 'decisions', there is a
finite number of them for any given time,
On 28 Jan 2008, at 22:31, Thomas McCabe wrote:
On Jan 28, 2008 9:43 AM, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Stathis: Are you simply arguing that an embodied AI that can
interact with
the
real world will find it easier to learn and develop, or are you
arguing that there is a fundament
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Jan 28, 2008 7:56 AM, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
X:Of course this is a variation on "the grounding problem" in AI. But
do you think some sort of **absolute** grounding is relevant to
effective interaction between individual agents (assuming you think
Quoting Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Gudrun: I think this is not about
intelligence, but it is about our mind being inter-dependent (also via
evolution) with senses and body.
Sorry, I've lost a subsequent post in which you went on to say that the very
terms "mind" and "body" in this contex
Hi Mike,
Correction in text,
Simon Baron Cohen, not Sacha Baron Cohen.
Gudrun
Begin forwarded message:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 January 2008 15:32:14 GMT
To: singularity@v2.listbox.com
Cc: singularity@v2.listbox.com, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [singularity] The Extro
On 27 Jan 2008, at 16:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Stathis Papaioannou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On 27/01/2008, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
the evidence of billions of years of evolution says that the mind
doesn't
work without the body. No body, no mind. No physics, no psych
Quoting Stathis Papaioannou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On 27/01/2008, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
the evidence of billions of years of evolution says that the mind doesn't
work without the body. No body, no mind. No physics, no psychology, no AI.
If it can't move, it can't think. (And I
Quoting Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Tom:A computer is not "disembodied" any more than you are. Silicon, as a
substrate, is fully equivalent to biological neurons in terms of
theoretical problem-solving ability.
You've been fooled by the puppet. It doesn't work without the puppeteer.
And
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Quoting Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Gudrun: I am an artist who is interested in science, in utopia and seemi
ngly
impossible
projects. I also came across a lot of artists with OC traits. ...
The OCAP, actually the obsessive compulsive 'arctificial' project ..
Quoting Samantha Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On Jan 26, 2008, at 11:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Natasha Vita-More <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
At 03:04 PM 1/24/2008, Gudrun wrote:
and N. Vita-More
This is confusing. Fine that extropians want to self-improve. That
ALL humanity shou
Quoting Vladimir Nesov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On Jan 26, 2008 8:57 PM, Bryan Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Saturday 26 January 2008, Mike Tintner wrote:
> Why does discussion never (unless I've missed something - in which
> case apologies) focus on the more realistic future
> "threats"/pos
Quoting Natasha Vita-More <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
At 03:04 PM 1/24/2008, Gudrun wrote:
and N. Vita-More
This is confusing. Fine that extropians want to self-improve. That
ALL humanity should improve, is quite questionable. Does all
humanity want to improve (immortality, happy pills, ...)?
G
Quoting Natasha Vita-More <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
At 01:53 PM 1/25/2008, you wrote:
On Jan 25, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Natasha Vita-More wrote
and Samantha Atkins wrote
The idea of useless technology is developed in wearables more than
in bioart. Steve's perspective is more political than artisti
Hello all of you , I have read this correspondence with great interest.
On 20 Jan 2008, at 14:17, Vladimir Nesov wrote:
If one argues for personal moral
freedom, it's not about enforcing freedom on others, it's about
liberating oneself from influence of others.
Vladimir
Others will always in
There is plenty of physical evidence that the universe is simulated by
a
finite state machine or a Turing machine.
1. The universe has finite size, mass, and age, and resolution
etc.
-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I assume there is also plenty of evidence that the universe is not
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