Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Jueves, 11 de Junio de 2009, Paul Kyzivat escribió: >> In one case I have a single phone with one phone number. Typically if a >> 2nd call comes in while phone is in use it is signaled to the callee in >> the media stream rather than through "ring". To switch betwee

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-11 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Jueves, 11 de Junio de 2009, Paul Kyzivat escribió: > In one case I have a single phone with one phone number. Typically if a > 2nd call comes in while phone is in use it is signaled to the callee in > the media stream rather than through "ring". To switch between calls you > typically use "flas

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Jueves, 11 de Junio de 2009, Paul Kyzivat escribió: >> Specifically, from a caller perspective, how is a call handled via "call >> waiting" at the callee any different from the call ringing on a phone >> with two lines where the other line is in use? Why should the

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-11 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Jueves, 11 de Junio de 2009, Paul Kyzivat escribió: > Specifically, from a caller perspective, how is a call handled via "call > waiting" at the callee any different from the call ringing on a phone > with two lines where the other line is in use? Why should the caller get > a special signal in

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Kyzivat
; > -Original Message- > From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu > [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Iñaki > Baz Castillo > Sent: 10 June 2009 21:30 > To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu > Subject: Re: [Sip-impleme

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-11 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Jueves, 11 de Junio de 2009, Attila Sipos escribió: > >>182 doesn't mean "call-waiting", it can mean "call-waiting", "queued"... > > It's the same thing isn't it? > > If you've got a "call-waiting", then your call is queued to be answered. > And you're queuing, you're a call that is waiting to b

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-11 Thread Attila Sipos
ntors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Dale Worley escribió: > > Do you mean that the UAC could display the reason phrase in *English*? > > IMHO a standarized code or "s

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Jueves, 11 de Junio de 2009, Paul Kyzivat escribió: > Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > > El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Paul Kyzivat escribió: > >> Actually, *in theory*, you can put Accept-Language:es into your INVITE, > >> and then the text messages in the response ought to be written in > >> S

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Paul Kyzivat escribió: > >> Actually, *in theory*, you can put Accept-Language:es into your INVITE, >> and then the text messages in the response ought to be written in Spanish. >> >> (And of course everybody's SIP implementation doe

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Paul Kyzivat escribió: > Actually, *in theory*, you can put Accept-Language:es into your INVITE, > and then the text messages in the response ought to be written in Spanish. > > (And of course everybody's SIP implementation does that. :-) Yes, I was to say the s

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Dale Worley escribió: >> And a UAC might want to display the reason phrase, so you could use > > Do you mean that the UAC could display the reason phrase in *English*? IMHO a > standarized code or "string" should be needed for this

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Dale Worley escribió: > > Do you mean that the UAC could display the reason phrase in *English*? > > IMHO a standarized code or "string" should be needed for this instead of > > a custom string in English. > > Strictly speaking, the UAC would display the reason p

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Dale Worley
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 21:22 +0200, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Dale Worley escribió: > > And a UAC might want to display the reason phrase, so you could use > > Do you mean that the UAC could display the reason phrase in *English*? IMHO a > standarized code or "

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Kanumuri, Sreeram
2:23 PM To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Dale Worley escribió: > And a UAC might want to display the reason phrase, so you could use Do you mean that the UAC could displ

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Dale Worley escribió: > And a UAC might want to display the reason phrase, so you could use Do you mean that the UAC could display the reason phrase in *English*? IMHO a standarized code or "string" should be needed for this instead of a custom string in Englis

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Dale Worley
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 21:13 +0200, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > Yes, it could reply > a 182 with SDP but, how many today's devices would render the SDP in a 182 > response? They all should. That's a central tenet of SIP design -- there is a default behavior for each class of responses that a dev

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Dale Worley
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 15:01 -0400, Simon Perreault wrote: > Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote, on 2009-06-10 14:49: > > Hi, calling today to a cell phone I've seen in my mobile screen: > > "Call waiting in the other side" > > > > Does something similar exist for SIP? > > Isn't this exactly what code 182

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Kanumuri, Sreeram escribió: > >> Does something similar exist for SIP? > > We can use response code "182" for this case. Humm, maybe: 21.1.4 182 Queued The called party is temporarily unavailable, but the server has decided to queue the call rather than

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Simon Perreault
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote, on 2009-06-10 14:49: > Hi, calling today to a cell phone I've seen in my mobile screen: > "Call waiting in the other side" > > Does something similar exist for SIP? Isn't this exactly what code 182 is for? Simon -- STUN/TURN server--> http://numb.viagenie.ca Inte

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Kanumuri, Sreeram
: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response Hi, calling today to a cell phone I've seen in my mobile screen: "Call waiting in the other side" This is: the callee was using a line in his phone and it was an

[Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
Hi, calling today to a cell phone I've seen in my mobile screen: "Call waiting in the other side" This is: the callee was using a line in his phone and it was announced in a provisional response. Does something similar exist for SIP? IMHO it would be very easy to implement: A specific header