On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> Ok, I'l start with the release process - I fear that this will take a
> little bit longer this time (until tomorrow I guess). Please refrain
> from committing stuff in the meantime
It is ok to commit under contrib/extensions, right?
-
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Felix Meschberger (JIRA)
wrote:
> ...Felix Meschberger closed SLING-954
I just tried this in launchpad/app, and
java -jar target/org.apache.sling.launchpad.app-4-incubator-SNAPSHOT.jar -j
says "Unrecognized option j=j", although the -j option is provided
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
I agree with Felix.
-Bertrand
Hi,
See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2009.
Here's my suggested draft:
Sling is a scriptable OSGI-based web framework that uses a Java
Content Repository, such as Apache Jackrabbit, to store and manage
content.
Sling entered incubation on September 5th, 2007, and is actively
preparing for
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> ...These are statements like:
>
> assertEquals("First install returns INSTALLED", INSTALLED,
> c.scheduleInstallOrUpdate(uri, data));
>
> where the return value of scheduleInstallOrUpdate is being checked,
> which hopefully is fl
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Apache Hudson Server
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> See
> http://hudson.zones.apache.org/hudson/job/sling-contrib-1.5/org.apache.sling$org.apache.sling.jcr.jcrinstall/15/
My bad...just broke the tests ;-)
-Bertrand
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> ...(3) The helper bundles a
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
>> We're using https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLING-920 to keep
>> track of the Hudson setup, I have added your comments there.
>
> Shoudn't we document this on the Wiki or the Site ?
We could, but a JIRA issue is a nice way to keep
: Bug
Components: Extensions
Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz
Priority: Minor
The ant task used in /contrib/extensions/dojo/pom.xml does not seem to
use the current Maven proxy settings.
Workaround is to download the dojo release file manually and place it in the
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Bertrand Delacretaz commented on SLING-920:
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Jukka says, on sling-dev:
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> I've changed the Hudson settings a bit:
Thanks!
We're using https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLING-920 to keep
track of the Hudson setup, I have added your comments there.
-Bertrand
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>> Is it possible to configure Hudson to only send mails if the status changed?
>
> Yes, there's a "Send e-mail for every unstable build" option that's
> enabled by default.
>
>
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> ...Based on his sustained contributions to the Sling documentation in the
> last months, the Sling PPMC has decided to give Mike Müller write access
> to the Sling website content wiki...
Welcome Mike - this shows that contributions to S
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Bertrand Delacretaz commented on SLING-946:
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After my changes of today the e
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Apache Hudson Server
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> See
> http://hudson.zones.apache.org/hudson/job/sling-contrib-1.5/org.apache.sling$org.apache.sling.launchpad.contrib-testing/5/
FYI, this is due to SLING-946
-Bertrand
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Bertrand Delacretaz schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Felix Meschberger (JIRA)
>> wrote:
>>> ...I have setup two OSGi bundle repository some time ago in m
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Felix Meschberger (JIRA)
wrote:
> ...I have setup two OSGi bundle repository some time ago in my personal space
> on people.apache.org:
>
> Sling Specific: http://people.apache.org/~fmeschbe/obr/sling.xml
> General with referrals:
> http://people.apache.or
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Bertrand Delacretaz commented on SLING-904:
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Thanks for the info a
Components: JCR Install
Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz
Priority: Minor
The jcrinstall integration tests in the
http://hudson.zones.apache.org/hudson/view/Sling/job/sling-contrib-1.5 build
fail with errors like
java.io.FileNotFoundException:
/home/hudson/hudson-slave/workspace
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> Jukka Zitting schrieb:
>>... More generally, should we rather direct the Hudson posts to d...@? IMHO
>> the commits@ list should be used only as a record of changes to svn
>> and the web site.
>
> That's what I just wanted to propose. We
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Bertrand Delacretaz commented on SLING-904:
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We might not need separate bun
Hi,
Our Hudson builds (SLING-920) are supposed to send email to
sling-comm...@incubator.apache.org but I haven't seen any Hudson
messages there.
There should be a message this afternoon as the sling-trunk-1.5 build
finally works (revision 769352 fixed it).
Are any messages stuck in moderation by
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Bertrand Delacretaz commented on SLING-920:
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Added new sling-contrib-1.5 jo
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Resolution: Fixed
Patches applied in revision 769356, tests pass in both modes now
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Bertrand Delacretaz commented on SLING-928:
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If the console display doesn
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Bertrand Delacretaz commented on SLING-928:
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Tests run fine against an alr
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Bertrand Delacretaz updated SLING-928:
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Attachment: SLING-928-pom.patch
pom changes to include the scala scripting engine in
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> Include integration tests for Scala script
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:
> ...mvn clean install -fbase/pom.xml
> mvndebug install -ftesting/pom.xml
>
> Perhaps not an ideal solution but for developing the launchpad and
> debugging it works well enough
Note that you can run the launchpad/testing and
launchpad/c
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:
> ...I am pretty sure the code is being exercised by the
> integration tests since they are all working but I would be more
> comfortable if there were unit tests in place as well.
Agree 100%, go for it!
> ... It would make
> the patch much
2009/4/24 Juan José Vázquez Delgado :
>> ...See also rule 5 of David's model [2].
>
> Right, but if tags are deleted or their names modified you´re forced
> to search the path tag properties over all the repository and fix the
> affected nodes. It seems an important drawback. WDYT?...
It's a drawb
Hi Aaron,
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:
> I have been searching through the code to try to find a way to get the
> sling home but not having much luck
See this thread: http://markmail.org/thread/jmxqjwqq5od65qvr
-Bertrand
Hi Vidar,
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Vidar Ramdal wrote:
> These are just some loose thoughts that have been brewing in my mind
> lately, after reading Richardson/Ruby: RESTful Web Services [1].
Good choice ;-)
>... In order to make Sling (even) more buzzword compliant, I have been
> thi
2009/4/24 Juan José Vázquez Delgado :
> ...That is a nice feature but IMHO is more suitable for specific use
> cases, such as CMS systems, than for Sling itself
IMHO that shouldn't prevent implementing it under contrib - not all
Sling users will need it, but using Sling for CMSish apps is cert
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> ...I think we could well organize
> something like a half-day track of presentations and workshops
> followed by a more informal community meetup in the evening
+1
I'm sure we can easily fill a half-day track with Jacrkabbit, Slin
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Rory Douglas wrote:
> Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>> 2) Prevent legitimate scripts from messing up with the system
> An variant of 2) just showed up in the "Accessing JCR" thread. Looks like
> anyone that can upload a sc
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Ian Boston wrote:
> Is there a code style guide for sling, or better still an eclipse config and
> import order.
> It looks like standard java style but I am not sure about the space policy...
I'm not sure if we're sure either ;-)
I use two spaces and no tabs for
Hi Carl,
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Carl Hall wrote:
> I've searched through docs but have yet to discover this though I'm
> probably just overlooking something. What's the suggested way to
> access data in a jcr repository when not coming from a user related
> request (ie. when in an even
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Tobias Bocanegra wrote:
>> System.exit() bears IMO no real risk, since it can be prevented by
>> java security.
>
> I'd like to see the relevant java security settings. With all the OSGi
> stuff, JCR
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Carsten Ziegeler schrieb:
>> ...scripts are
>> only picked
>> up from configured paths (libs and apps by default). So as long as the
>> user is not allowed to write in these locations, everything should be fine.
>
> Well, there is
Hi Jukka,
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> ...I was thinking about the implications of giving a user write access to
> a subtree of the repository. With that access the user could now
> upload a new script and create a node that invokes that script when
> rendered
Req
Hi,
Just found out that our confluence wiki includes the gliffy plugin for
diagrams - created a test page at
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SLING/Testing%20gliffy%20diagrams
if you want to play with it.
(Didn't test if such diagrams would make it to the website though)
-Bertrand
Hi Mike,
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Mike Müller wrote:
> ...I tried your setup and it doesn't feel (as it seems on a first view) that
> unproductive
Sure, it kind of works ;-)
> ...You haven't to turn off the Java Builder needfully. Let it turned
> on, you get all the compiling warnin
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Carl Hall wrote:
> Are node properties viewable/changeable through webdav access to a JCR repo?
Not AFAIK, WebDAV is about files...I *think* there's an enhanced
WebDAV component in Jackrabbit that allows for some additional JCR
remoting, can anyone confirm?
-Bert
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Considering SLING-931, it migh
Components: JCR Install
Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz
After upgrading the Felix webconsole from 1.2.6 to 1.2.8 via jcrinstall, by
copying the 1.2.8 bundle in a JCR repository folder that's watched by
jcrinstall, the webconsole bundle is not restarted.
AFAICS the failure scenar
Hi Mike,
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Mike Müller wrote:
> ...If I get you right, that means, that you do not compile in Eclipse.
> So you do not get errros and warnings in Eclipse. Does that mean
> you use Eclipse only as editor, or do I get things wrong?...
Correct, I compile with maven at
Hi Dominik,
2009/4/20 Dominik Süß :
> ...The espblogsample may be a
> good start for your pom ( but doesn't use the maven-sling-plugin yet)...
It does use it in fact, because the espblog's parent pom is the one
found in parent/pom.xml, so for example
mvn -P autoInstallBundle clean install
-Dsli
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Mike Müller wrote:
> ...How are you guys developing/testing bigger projects for Sling?
> (including packaging the jar with the correct manifest)
forgot about that one - I just use mvn install, and the
mvn-bundle-plugin does the rest.
-Bertrand
Hi Mike,
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Mike Müller wrote:
> ...So what are the best pracices to develop an OSGi bundle for Sling in
> Eclipse?
> How are you guys developing/testing bigger projects for Sling?
> (including packaging the jar with the correct manifest)
The way I do it might
Hi Ian,
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Ian Boston wrote:
> We (Sakai Kernel Development Team), are starting to create a number of OSGi
> bundles and services as extensions to Sling. They are all A2 licensed (why
> would you choose anything else :)). Without wanting to bloat the Sling code
> ba
Hi Vidar,
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Vidar Ramdal wrote:
> ...svn: Server sent unexpected return value (403 Forbidden) in response
> to MKACTIVITY request for
> '/repos/asf/!svn/act/6cd2c7e1-0bd8-4fcf-94c3-aa1b04748dd8'
http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#commit-403 should help!
-Be
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Bertrand Delacretaz commented on SLING-920:
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Another cool thing about Hudson:
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:
> I would like to upgrade felix to 1.6.0 but I thought I would check to
> see if there is some reason why this has not already been done
The Sling trunk is updated to 1.6.0 already (SLING-712 says that was rev 762719)
-Bertrand
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Resolution: Fixed
Implemented, links to the example servlets and tests added to
http
Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz
Priority: Minor
Considering that we're adding more options for servlet resolution, it makes
sense to have more examples of simple servlets.
Running integration tests on those examples makes sure they are in sync with
the codebase, so I
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> ...It's not a SNAPSHOT?
Good catch, thanks ;-)
I'll have a look at how to fix that.
-Bertrand
Hi,
The Hudson build that I configured yesterday fails to deploy that pom
to repository.apache.org, see error message below, details at [1] .
Before I ask on the reposit...@apache.org list, does anyone have an
idea what's going wrong?
Other artifacts are deployed without problems, see [2].
-Ber
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> ...How about extending this mechanism like this:
>
> - Copy all bundles from enclosed resources to
> ${sling.home}/startup. This gives something like
> ${sling.home}/startup/0, /1, /10, /15, ...
> Existing files are onl
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Added info about Hudson setu
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Mike Müller wrote:
> ...What are the best practice by now:
> - to debug sling (and self made bundles) with eclipse?...
I use remote debugging, starting Sling from the command-line with options like
java -Xmx384M -Xdebug -Xnoagent -Djava.compiler=NONE
-Xrunjdwp:tr
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
>... Request sent, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1997...
Got my account info, setup JDK 1.5 and 1.6 builds of the Sling trunk,
see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLING-920 for details. It
would be good to k
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Bertrand Delacretaz commented on SLING-920:
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I have created the sling-trunk
Hudson continuous integration setup
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Key: SLING-920
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLING-920
Project: Sling
Issue Type: Task
Components: Testing
Reporter: Bertrand
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> ...Among the Sling committers, who would like to have an account on the
> Hudson server?
> I'll include your usernames in the accounts request
Request sent, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1997
-Bertrand
Hi,
I tried to fix our continuous integration builds on
http://vmbuild.apache.org today and that's very painful...the server
is very slow, many operations give timeouts.
Considering that Jackrabbit switched to Hudson and seems to be happy
with, I'd like to try it, and we can then decide to switch
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Bertrand Delacretaz commented on SLING-918:
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Just tried with pax-web-ser
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Resolution: Fixed
Upgraded pax-web-service to 0.5.1 in revision 763238, for the launchpad
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Assignee: Bertrand Delacretaz
> Upgrade pax-web-service to more recent vers
Upgrade pax-web-service to more recent version
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Key: SLING-918
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLING-918
Project: Sling
Issue Type: Bug
Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz
The
Snapshots of Sling artifacts at repository.apache.org
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Key: SLING-917
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLING-917
Project: Sling
Issue Type: Task
Reporter: Bertrand
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> wrote:
>> I assume we need the artifacts created by our continuum server [1] to
>> be pushed somewhere when the builds are successful, but I'm not sure
>> h
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> Bertrand Delacretaz schrieb:
>>... If we didn't discuss that yet, I suggest the following source code
>> subtrees, (*) means part of the release:
>
> We did [1] and the result of the discussion is the current so
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> ...I'm not sure about samples as some of them require contrib stuff
Right...specifically, the samples that I'd like to release are:
espblog
path-based-rtp
post-servlet-extensions
webloader
which AFAIK do not depend on contrib.
-Be
Hi,
The samples/simple-demo is somewhat old and not really focused, IMHO.
Starting with that sample would probably totally freak me out if I was
a Sling newbie ;-)
Do people want to keep it?
I see two things that might be worth keeping around:
-the ZipFilter example, could move to its own "filt
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> Bertrand Delacretaz schrieb:
>> ...The jcrinstall integration tests fail...
> Since JCR Install will not be part of the release, this is IMHO not a
> show-stopper
So what are we planning to release (sorry if I missed
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> The current drawback of this solution is that the standard OSGi http
> service does not support adding filters or servlet listeners. So as soon
> as you're having these things in your webapp it's not working out of the
> box with a st
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> ...This has been one of our main hold-backs for a release. If you see
> anything else really blocking, please tell us so. Otherwise I would say,
> that we take the next step and start cutting the release
The jcrinstall integration tes
Hi,
A while ago, Carsten pointed me to the Pax Web Extender - War [2]
service, an extender bundle that makes possible to deploy WAR files
into OSGi.
As this might be interesting in some integration scenarios, or to keep
JEE developers happy, I have created a prototype webapp that can be
loaded i
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Vidar Ramdal wrote:
> I'm thinking of submitting a presentation on Sling at this year's
> JavaZone in Oslo (http://www.java.no/javazone/2009/) in September...
Great!
> ...I'll probably go with a presentation similar to Bertrand's at
> ApacheCon EU - an introducti
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> ...Vidar's account has been created, used vramdal should have commit
> access on Sling now
I have also added Vidar's name on the list at
http://incubator.apache.org/sling/site/project-team.html and a n
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> ...Vidar's iCLA has been recorded already, I'll request creation of his
> @apache.org account now
Vidar's account has been created, used vramdal should have commit
access on Sling now.
Vidar, note that your
Hi John,
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:25 PM, John Crawford wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Pontus Amberg wrote:
>> ...
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLING-249
> Ya, thats what I was thinking, using an Apache proxy w/ virtual hosts and
> hit a specific context path (domain)..
Hi,
In SLING-887, Andreas Hartmann provides a patch (thanks!) that creates
a new dojo bundle, while keeping the existing one.
We'd then have:
contrib/extensions/dojo:
Provides dojo 1.1.1, dojo resources under /dojo
contrib/extensions/dojo-1.2.3:
Provides dojo 1.2.3, dojo resources under /do
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Resolution: Fixed
Fixed in revision 762344
> Three tests fail in contrib integrat
Hi,
I thought about this a bit more, and reading people's comments I
realize that what I really want is to have per-bundle versioned docs,
so that people can find up-to-date docs for their own set of bundles.
Fortunately there's the web ;-)
So simply having strict conventions for publishing our
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> Bertrand Delacretaz schrieb:
>> ...Can't we just use a specific system property to set the sling.home
>> value for integration tests?...
> ...But having a special system property coded into Sling just for th
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Bertrand Delacretaz commented on SLING-845:
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In revision 762318, updated
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Bertrand Delacretaz commented on SLING-910:
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That flexibility sounds lik
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Sujoy Bhattacharjee
wrote:
> ...I have a requirement where I need to configure HTTPS on sling which is
> running on jetty web server. I have checked the mailing list as well as the
> documentation but no great help as such
IMHO the simplest way is to confi
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> ...For this reasons, I would like to remove (svn rm) the old implementation
> and to also drop the JcrResourceResolverFactoryImpl configuration option
> to select the old or new implementation...
+1
-Bertrand
Hi John,
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:09 AM, John Crawford wrote:
> I'm in the process of implementing a site that is basically comprised of
> three independent modules, however, I want them to interact on some level
> ...I'm trying to decide if it's best practice to have one repository with 3
>
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Bertrand Delacretaz schrieb:
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Felix Meschberger
>> wrote:
>>> ...We should then probably also extend the Rhino script engine to cache
>>> compiled ecma
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> ...If down-stream users want to not pay the price for well-formedness, they
> should use the traditional approach using <%= %>. Event there,
> developers are required to apply some form of well-formedness
Ok, as long as we don't depr
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Vidar Ramdal wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> wrote:
>> I'd much prefer a permissive parser that only uses XMLish tags to
>> delimit code sections - assuming that meets your requirement of editor
>> frie
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> Hi Bertrand
>
> Bertrand Delacretaz schrieb:
>> ...Why did we move the "sling" folders from target/sling (where mvn clean
>> kills them) to siblings of src folders?
>> Is that on purpose, or a sid
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> ...We should then probably also extend the Rhino script engine to cache
> compiled ecma scripts and reuse them, similar to what the JSP script
> engine does (no we probably don't need to write class files)
This is something that we s
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Vidar Ramdal wrote:
> ...after looking at EspReader, it does not look easy to extend it.
> .espx sounds good to me
I was going to say "do we really need a new extension", but thinking
about it having a different extension with a different parser sounds
easier
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Vidar Skauge Ramdal wrote:
> I checked out and built Felix 1.6 myself (see felix.apache.org). Don't think
> I changed any pom files.
The procedure outlined in http://markmail.org/message/c55p4b26u2d6r6ld
should also work, without having to build Felix yourself.
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