Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-03 Thread Martin Visser
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:43 AM, lloyd l...@aapt.net.au wrote: Apart from Heracles, does anyone know who marketed Linux FOSS to the NSW Department of Education prior to this decision? This is obviously relevant to statements about Linux not compete. I think we can be sure that the

Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-03 Thread Daniel Pittman
Martin Visser martinvisse...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:43 AM, lloyd l...@aapt.net.au wrote: Apart from Heracles, does anyone know who marketed Linux FOSS to the NSW Department of Education prior to this decision? This is obviously relevant to statements about Linux not

Fwd: [SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-03 Thread Martin Visser
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Marghanita da Cruz marghan...@ramin.com.au wrote: The deal with Microsoft is a world-first in student licensing, based on a per student approach rather than licensing per device.

Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-03 Thread Tony Sceats
The lack of attention to detail, and it has been published for two days now, doesn't give one any confidence that the Premier's Department understands how to effectively communicate using the intarwebs. and you're surprised? IMHO the NSW government is like the Old Boys Club, effectively

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2009-04-03 Thread Bruce
On Friday 03 April 2009 17:10:00 Tony Sceats wrote: The lack of attention to detail, and it has been published for two days now, doesn't give one any confidence that the Premier's Department understands how to effectively communicate using the intarwebs. (intarwebs??? notwithstanding...

Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-02 Thread Daniel Pittman
david da...@kenpro.com.au writes: Daniel Pittman wrote: Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au writes: I spent a great deal of time over the last few years trying to get parts of the DET to look at free software with little effect. I found three major hurdles. 1. The unfounded belief that

Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-02 Thread Glen Turner
Daniel Pittman wrote: IIRC, this is usually by billing for a copy of Windows to run on everything, regardless of what actually runs on it, so the cost of Linux is now hardware + Windows + Linux, no savings available. So what alternative do you propose? That every machine be inspected to see

Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-02 Thread Daniel Pittman
Glen Turner g...@gdt.id.au writes: Daniel Pittman wrote: IIRC, this is usually by billing for a copy of Windows to run on everything, regardless of what actually runs on it, so the cost of Linux is now hardware + Windows + Linux, no savings available. So what alternative do you propose?

Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-02 Thread terryc
Glen Turner wrote: Apple sell into exactly the same situation, Nope. Apple was there first. -- Terry Collins {:-)} Bicycles, Appropriate Technology, Natural Environment, Welding -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs:

Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-02 Thread lloyd
Apart from Heracles, does anyone know who marketed Linux FOSS to the NSW Department of Education prior to this decision? This is obviously relevant to statements about Linux not compete. I think we can be sure that the competition to Linux were backed by substantial if not huge marketing

Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-02 Thread Harrison Conlin
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:43 AM, lloyd l...@aapt.net.au wrote: Apart from Heracles, does anyone know who marketed Linux FOSS to the NSW Department of Education prior to this decision? While this doesn't answer your question, Sun Microsystems approached some of the vendors offering commercial

Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-02 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
lloyd wrote: Apart from Heracles, does anyone know who marketed Linux FOSS to the NSW Department of Education prior to this decision? This is obviously relevant to statements about Linux not compete. I think we can be sure that the competition to Linux were backed by substantial if not huge

[SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-01 Thread lloyd
Like Richard Hayes, I noted the announcement Lenovo wins $150m NSW schools deal. I have been trying since February to get a response on a suggestion that the Department of Education consider FOSS (correspondence attached) via my local member's office, who happens to be the Education Minister. I

Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-01 Thread Heracles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I spent a great deal of time over the last few years trying to get parts of the DET to look at free software with little effect. I found three major hurdles. 1. The unfounded belief that anything free must be second rate 2. The complete reliance on

Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-01 Thread Daniel Pittman
Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au writes: I spent a great deal of time over the last few years trying to get parts of the DET to look at free software with little effect. I found three major hurdles. 1. The unfounded belief that anything free must be second rate 2. The complete reliance on

Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-01 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
Daniel Pittman wrote: Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au writes: I spent a great deal of time over the last few years trying to get parts of the DET to look at free software with little effect. I found three major hurdles. 1. The unfounded belief that anything free must be second rate 2. The

Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: Re: Computers software for schools]

2009-04-01 Thread david
Daniel Pittman wrote: Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au writes: I spent a great deal of time over the last few years trying to get parts of the DET to look at free software with little effect. I found three major hurdles. 1. The unfounded belief that anything free must be second rate 2. The