On 1/02/12 13:09, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
I was one of the people who originally asked for the coder's list
and now I'd like to suggest that it is time to shut it down.
As Matt Mullenweg once quoted, [0]
Pruning is an important and necessary step in growing roses. Pruning
keeps the
Hi all,
I was one of the people who originally asked for the coder's list
and now I'd like to suggest that it is time to shut it down. The
reasons are:
a) The list has almost no legitimate traffic ( 1 email a month).
b) Moderating the list is a pain in the neck. I'm currently moderating
I agree not all grear ideas work. i asked for it
On the move
Original message
Subject: [SLUG] Time to close down the coder's list?
From: Erik de Castro Lopo mle+s...@mega-nerd.com
To: commit...@slug.org.au,slug@slug.org.au
CC:
Hi all,
I was one of the people who
On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 03:05:06PM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
I don't have anything constructive to add to the first point, as I'm mostly
indifferent.
I'm against but not really strongly so.
If put in place, perhaps we could make an
excception for gpg signed mail.
This one time, at band
Scott Sinclair wrote:
On Mon 29 May, 2006 at 15:41:01 +1000, O Plameras wrote:
A simple solution:
Just add one activity for the poster to do, i.e., to every posting
SLUG-list
server will elicit a confirmation from the poster whereby this
confirmation is
identified by a unique-key.
The
Jeff Waugh wrote:
[snip]
But both are wrong.
(I always have a problem with your replies Jeff and on this front I know I'm not
alone. Your statement above leaves no room for argument it's just so damn self
righteous. You're wrong which by implication means I'm right. Very
confrontational. An
quote who=Peter Rundle
Participation in a list like that would be fun as a social experiment or
research project but terrible for building and maintaining a vibrant
community. No thanks!
A statement but where's the supporting argument. What is in fact so bad
about a list whereby the
On 29/05/2006, at 2:43 PM, Peter Rundle wrote:
Sluggers,
Whilst I know that this subject has been vocally debated in the
past I think it is time to re-visit the issue of how the slug
mailing list works.
Well, how _does_ it work? :-)
Does SLUG have a postmaster? What sort of spam
quote who=Sam Lawrance
Does SLUG have a postmaster? What sort of spam controls are in place at
the moment?
It's largely controlled by MTA-level sanity checks and the very awesome
SpamAssassin plugin for mailman (written by Perthite, James Henstridge).
- Jeff
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On 29/05/2006, at 4:18 PM, O Plameras wrote:
Scott Sinclair wrote:
On Mon 29 May, 2006 at 15:41:01 +1000, O Plameras wrote:
A simple solution:
Just add one activity for the poster to do, i.e., to every
posting SLUG-list
server will elicit a confirmation from the poster whereby this
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 15:05 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
We had a discussion about community on Friday night at the meeting, and my
gut reaction to this proposal is that it clips the wings of the mechanics of
that community that we are trying to protect and uphold.
seconded...
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Sluggers,
Whilst I know that this subject has been vocally debated in the past I think it
is time to re-visit the issue of how the slug mailing list works.
In spite of the use of tools like spam assassin at the back-end, the list is
seeing a continuous increase in the amount of spam. Since
On 5/29/06, Peter Rundle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Should slug be a subscribers only list?
I think this makes sense, I don't know why someone would be posting to
a list they aren't a part of.
2. The originators e-mail should not be in the header of the message.
Perhaps, perhaps not - I'm
On Mon, 29 May 2006 14:57:35 +1000, Michael Kedzierski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 5/29/06, Peter Rundle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Should slug be a subscribers only list?
I think this makes sense, I don't know why someone would be posting to
a list they aren't a part of.
I can think
On Mon May 29, 2006 at 14:57:35 +1000, Michael Kedzierski wrote:
On 5/29/06, Peter Rundle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Should slug be a subscribers only list?
I think this makes sense, I don't know why someone would be posting to
a list they aren't a part of.
1/ They have multiple e-mail address
I don't have anything constructive to add to the first point, as I'm mostly
indifferent.
In general, my spam filters are so good that I haven't noticed any increase
in the amount of spam to the list, so I will have to give you the benefit of
the doubt on that statement ;-)
This one time, at band
On 5/29/06, Benno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon May 29, 2006 at 14:57:35 +1000, Michael Kedzierski wrote:
On 5/29/06, Peter Rundle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Should slug be a subscribers only list?
I think this makes sense, I don't know why someone would be posting to
a list they aren't a
quote who=Peter Rundle
1. Should slug be a subscribers only list?
This question has been fiercely debated in the past. Given the increase in
UCE traffic, and the lack of updates / information from the admins on this
list (or activities), I think it's unfortunately time to make the switch.
Very
Peter Rundle wrote:
Sluggers,
Whilst I know that this subject has been vocally debated in the past I
think it is time to re-visit the issue of how the slug mailing list
works.
In spite of the use of tools like spam assassin at the back-end, the
list is seeing a continuous increase in the
On Mon 29 May, 2006 at 15:41:01 +1000, O Plameras wrote:
A simple solution:
Just add one activity for the poster to do, i.e., to every posting
SLUG-list
server will elicit a confirmation from the poster whereby this
confirmation is
identified by a unique-key.
The SLUG list server
Hi
I would like to limit access to certain ports (mainly ports used to
access MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, IRC, etc...) during certain times
of the day. What is the best way to set this type of time-varying
firewall ruleset?
Our firewall is implemented using raw netfilter/iptables.
Our
On Tue Feb 08, 2005 at 09:14:46 +1100, Noel Saliba wrote:
Hi
I would like to limit access to certain ports (mainly ports used to
access MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, IRC, etc...) during certain times
of the day. What is the best way to set this type of time-varying
firewall ruleset?
Our
quote who=Noel Saliba
I would like to limit access to certain ports (mainly ports used to access
MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, IRC, etc...) during certain times of the
day. What is the best way to set this type of time-varying firewall
ruleset?
Our firewall is implemented using raw
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 09:14:46AM +1100, Noel Saliba wrote:
Hi
I would like to limit access to certain ports (mainly ports used to
access MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, IRC, etc...) during certain times
of the day. What is the best way to set this type of time-varying
firewall
hell sluggers;
Here´s a curiosity for you
I think I may have a virus, but I´m not sure, some one may advise..
My time clock is showing time in Los Angeles format.. 3:07 am here on my
display - it was in good old DST here near old Sydney Town, K Mail is not
downloading mail. I know I
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:23 am, you wrote:
A virus. H, that is odd, can I ask have does your uid have root
priviliges?
no
You have to be root or have root priviliges to change the system timezone
and
time. I think if your system crashed and you are using a file system like
reiserfs
then
I get the same problem
for some weird reason the clock in KDE swaps time zones
fix is:
right click on on the clock/show time zone/local time
dont use halt or shutdown logout and it usually fixes it.
On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 22:11, Nicholas Tomlin wrote:
hell sluggers;
shj
Here´s a
At 02:35 PM 1/09/03, Edwin Humphries sent this up the stick:
What public secondary time servers are useful for those of us on AEST?
pool.ntp.org is a good one, have a look at the web site (pool.ntp.org ...
funny that)
cheers,
rob
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What public secondary time servers are useful for those of us on AEST?
Edwin Humphries,
Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.ironstone.com.au
Phone: 02 4233 2285
Fax: 02 4233 2299
Mobile: 0419 233 051
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More Info:
quote who=Edwin Humphries
What public secondary time servers are useful for those of us on AEST?
http://slug.org.au/sydney.html - down the bottom :-)
- Jeff
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Creative thinkers make many false starts, and
oops...and now to the list
Phil Scarratt wrote:
Have you looked at www.ntp.org - they have a list of primary and
secondary time servers...
Edwin Humphries wrote:
What public secondary time servers are useful for those of us on AEST?
Edwin Humphries,
Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd
[EMAIL
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 02:35:27PM +1000, Edwin Humphries wrote:
What public secondary time servers are useful for those of us on AEST?
Many ISPs run time servers for use by their customers. Have you asked
them?
Cheers,
John
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On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 06:02:54PM +1000, Perry, David J wrote:
Is setting up NTP time synchronisation just a matter of entering the
ntp server name in the etc/ntp.conf file and then starting ntpd?
Yes, but it's a good idea to restict what various hosts can do with
your ntp server, e.g. for a
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:03:02PM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
Have you also got a ntp.conf for the client machines?
ntp is both client and server. The config I posted last night is from
a local machine which is a client of the upstream hosts, and acts as a
server to our internal hosts.
I have installed RH 8.0 about a dozen times on various boxes and in about half these
installations the Gnome GUI does not allow setting the date/time. If I try and do an
adjustment it prompts for the root password as expected, but then after accepting the
password nothing happens.
Has anybody
This one time, at band camp, John Clarke wrote:
ntp is both client and server. The config I posted last night is from
a local machine which is a client of the upstream hosts, and acts as a
server to our internal hosts. Internal hosts are simply pointed at
this server, e.g.:
Yeah, I've just
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 02:30:46PM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
Yeah, I've just found the ntp.conf syntax to be deliciously arcane and was
Me too. That's what put me off running it for such a long time. Once
you get the hang of it, it's pretty simple, and you can use the same
config file
This one time, at band camp, John Clarke wrote:
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 02:30:46PM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
That's not so good.
No, but you can work around it with iptables (not as good as not
listening, but better than nothing). Allow port 123 (tcp and udp) from
your upstream servers and
This one time, at band camp, John Clarke wrote:
Yes, but it's a good idea to restict what various hosts can do with
your ntp server, e.g. for a server which synchronises with three remote
servers and provides time service to a local subnet:
Have you also got a ntp.conf for the client machines?
-Original Message-
From: Glen Turner
To: Lucas King
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2/12/02 11:28
Subject: Re: [SLUG] time on a Linux box
Lucas King wrote:
i am looking for information as to how time is maintained on a Linux
box.
i am currently running Redhat 7.2 (i am not sure
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Luke King
Sent: Wednesday, 4 December 2002 9:32 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '; Luke King
Subject: RE: [SLUG] time on a Linux box
hello,
thanks to all those that responded. the information given
hello,
i am looking for information as to how time is maintained on a Linux box.
i am currently running Redhat 7.2 (i am not sure if this is relevant) on
a box on which i have set up a time server for a network. the time
server delivers its time, via NTP, as UTC. i set up the client, being
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 10:10:55AM +1100, Lucas King wrote:
: is it possible to have the network delivered time adjusted depending on
: whether it is EST or DST?
NTP is always UTC.
: the clients run a variety of operating systems. these include Linux,
: OS/2, Windows, VMS and DOS. writing a
Lucas King wrote:
i am looking for information as to how time is maintained on a Linux box.
i am currently running Redhat 7.2 (i am not sure if this is relevant) on
a box on which i have set up a time server for a network. the time
server delivers its time, via NTP, as UTC. i set up the
hello,
a lot of Googling and a lot of browsing of the MAN pages has not been
able to resolve this problem. perhaps someone on the list has an idea.
i set up a time server using Redhat 7.2 using the default settings under
xinetd.
if i use rdate from another Redhat PC the time is returned
Umm... problem fixed.
a configuration error on my part had some ill side-effects.
regards,
Lucas
The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files
is or may be confidential.If you are not the
I have Debian running nicely on a Sun Ultra5, but the time is out by an
hour. How can I adjust (using ntpd?) the time to show daylight savings time?
Cheers,
Rob
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2001 14:56:30 +1100 Rob B wrote:
I have Debian running nicely on a Sun Ultra5, but the time is out by an
hour. How can I adjust (using ntpd?) the time to show daylight savings time?
while we're on this subject -- my system date appears to be correct,
but my mailer sylpheed
This one time, at band camp, cpaul wrote:
On Fri, 02 Nov 2001 14:56:30 +1100 Rob B wrote:
I have Debian running nicely on a Sun Ultra5, but the time is out by an
hour. How can I adjust (using ntpd?) the time to show daylight savings time?
while we're on this subject -- my system date
this
electronic mail in error, please delete it from your system immediately and
notify the sender by electronic mail.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Rob B
Sent: Friday, 2 November 2001 13:57
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] time
At 15:49 2/11/2001, Jamie Wilkinson sent this up the stick:
For both of you, check /etc/localtime is a symlink to
/usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Sydney (or your actual location, swap
/usr/share for the location of zoneinfo on your system). Also set your
hardware clock to follow UTC. This way
It's just that linuxconf uses rdate to do a clock check, which is 37 TCP.
--
Howard.
LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com
"...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!"
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, David Kempe wrote:
Does any one
Does any one know of a time server that listens on port 37 TCP
I think things like NT PDC's do, however thats a bit broken really. Why
can't you use NTP?
get better software might well be your answer here :)
Lots of NTP stuff including a list of public NTP servers are at:
http://www.ntp.org
The
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 03:41:28AM +1000, Howard Lowndes uttered:
Does any one know of a time server that listens on port 37 TCP
steven@broken:~$ grep time /etc/inetd.conf | tail -2
timestream tcp nowait rootinternal
#time dgram udp waitrootinternal
This one time, at band camp, David Kempe said:
The public servers are useful and precise, the CSIRO runs a bunch of them
for australia, you just pick one in your timezone.
Timezone won't matter, they all give out UTC. That's what zoneinfo is
for :)
--
jamesw
Always two there are; a Bastard,
Does any one know of a time server that listens on port 37 TCP
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"...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!"
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Help!
The time on my Mandrake 6.1 box keeps changing back to June 1999!
There is nothing in the message log, or any other log that I can find that
indicates what is happening (part of the message log where the changeover
took place is included below).
When this happens I login as root,
Have you been cracked? Have a look at /etc/passwd for extra accounts.
--
Howard.
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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Simon Bryan wrote:
Help!
The time on my Mandrake 6.1 box keeps changing
On my box (deadrat 6.2) the hwclock reports the right GMT but the system
clock seems to have drifted over the 20 days the box has been up so it is
now about quarter of an hour slow...
any suggestions for why that is happening and a [fix | pointers to docs] ?
later
marty
"I can't buy what I
At some point around Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 09:27:49 +1100, marty said:
On my box (deadrat 6.2) the hwclock reports the right GMT but the system
clock seems to have drifted over the 20 days the box has been up so it is
now about quarter of an hour slow...
If the load average is *massive* then
; On my box (deadrat 6.2) the hwclock reports the right GMT but the system
; clock seems to have drifted over the 20 days the box has been up so it is
; now about quarter of an hour slow...
;
; any suggestions for why that is happening and a [fix | pointers to docs] ?
;
With RH it's in the xntpd rpm
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Thom May wrote:
At some point around Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 09:27:49 +1100, marty said:
On my box (deadrat 6.2) the
Running RH6.2. The time switched nicely to daylight time when it
should have, but I rebooted last night (big mistake!) and now I have
standard time. What happened?
Cheers,
Alan
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Alan L Tyree[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Running RH6.2. The time switched nicely to daylight time when it
should have, but I rebooted last night (big mistake!) and now I have
standard time. What happened?
You are running on localtime and you left your computer on through the
change right? You should have propagated the change into the
-Original Message-
From: Peter McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 4:57 PM
To: Linux Sydney (E-mail)
Subject: [SLUG] Time
Howdy
I'm having a rather strange issue with the introduction of daylight savings,
even after setting the clock forward
Is this machine dual booting, cos if not then it is better that the BIOS
time is set to UTC.
--
Howard.
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On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Peter McCarthy wrote:
Howdy
I'm having a rather strange
No it is not a dual boot only Linux, but how is UTC better ?
-Original Message-
From: Howard Lowndes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 4:21 PM
To: Peter McCarthy
Cc: Linux Sydney (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Time
Is this machine dual booting, cos
yeh I thought of that didn't work, nor did a full reboot either..
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 4:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SLUG] Time
Hi ,
I had the same thing happen
I'd just remove the file
/etc/sysconfig/clock-- or something like that then do
why are you removing that file first ??
later
marty
"I can't buy what I want because it's free. Can't be what they want
because I'm me." - Corduroy, Pearl Jam
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Howdy
I'm having a rather strange issue with the introduction of daylight savings,
even after setting the clock forward in the bios the time stamp on mail delivery
is still an hour behind.
when I query the system with the date command it returns the correct time.
Any ideas ?
I'm Running Linux
What time servers are available for
ntp?
Kind regards
Kevin
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ntp.syd.connect.com.au
ntp.ade.connect.com.au
ntp.mel.connect.com.au
(There are more..)
Thank you Connect!
Chuck
Wrote Erich Schulz on Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 02:05:32PM +1100:
This is the one I use
ntp.adelaide.edu.au
Cheers
Erich
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, you wrote:
What time
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