On 3 Nov, Andrew Reilly wrote:
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 02:28:06AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote:
HTML is a text markup facility.
MIME is a general-purpose encoding scheme for *any* content type.
Tell me, Luke, how would MIME help you enriched email
using MIME? The only way I can think
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With the recent discussion about reasons for not using HTML for email,
I was surprised that no one mentioned that there is a pre-existing
carefully designed international standard format for enriched mail,
called MIME, which has been in existence for donkey's years.
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 02:28:06AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote:
HTML is a text markup facility.
MIME is a general-purpose encoding scheme for *any* content type.
Tell me, Luke, how would MIME help you enriched email
using MIME? The only way I can think of is encoding an enriched
document,
A waste of bandwidth for no gain in content. Some of us will simply delete
HTML mail unread.
HTML formatting can more than double the size of a simple text message. Send
that as multipart/alternative and you send both text and html versions,
tripling the size of your message. Multiply
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 11:59:37AM +1100, John Clarke wrote:
Stop thinking of yourself and think of those that host the mailing list. Isn't
it just good manners to minimise the cost to them? IIRC (from a message on
this list ages ago), before the list moved to the new servers, the traffic
: SLUG bandwidth was: [SLUG] Html Email Format part 2
In case you are interested,
URL: http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/mrtg/slug.progsoc.uts.edu.au.html
We have only been doing this for the week or so, which is what the
uptime reflects.
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Is there some rule about not using HTML formated email on this list??
if so, why is that?
regards
Alister Waller (B. Comp)
Technical Consultant - Roadtech Systems Ltd
Phone: 02 98073516 Fax: 02 98085294
www.roadtechsystems.com.au
winmail.dat
Because some of us don't always have access to a mail client that can read
it.. ie. right at this moment, I am on a ssh session and reading my mail
from pine on linux. Hence I can't see HTML posts.
Also, HTML posts add extra size to messages which is not really required.
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000,
Alister Waller wrote:
Is there some rule about not using HTML formated email on this list??
if so, why is that?
BOGUSHTML
TOPBIT
/TOPBIT
MAINBIT
JavaScript
function javascripttrojan() {
trojan.activate();
}
/JavaScript
Because, in some mailers, especially boldtext mode/bold
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 10:22:28AM +1000, Alister Waller wrote:
Is there some rule about not using HTML formated email on this list??
It's a generally accepted convention that we don't send HTML formatted mail to
the list. The same goes for winmail.dat - please turn it off.
if so, why is
Well for those of you who complained about my email it was actually in rich
text format not html format.
I have now switched to plain text.
Can I ask why people use non-html enabled mail clients?? What is the benefit
of this? Is this a linux geeky type thing??
Seems strange when you look at
I hope you have asbestos pants on cos this is flame bait (8-)
I use Pine which is essentially text based, but it can handle html, it
just ignores the tags.
I think the main problem is bandwidth and the fact that html email can be
used to activate exploits in some browsers.
...and no, I don't
I am sure we all like to grab the odd mp3, but with that in mind, you'd be
refering to bandwidth we pay for off our own backs.
But as someone pointed out, when it comes to a mail list, not only do we
all pay for the emails, but someone also must pay for the server/servers
the email list is
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Alister Waller wrote:
Can I ask why people use non-html enabled mail clients?? What is the benefit
of this? Is this a linux geeky type thing??
It's commonly known as "lowest common denominator".
In other words, you distribute in the format that you're guaranteed your
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Alister Waller generated:
Can I ask why people use non-html enabled mail clients?? What is the benefit
of this? Is this a linux geeky type thing??
Have you ever used mutt? it's the least sucky of all the mail clients
out there. i find the useablilty/conformance to
Alister Waller wrote:
Can I ask why people use non-html enabled mail clients?? What is the benefit
of this? Is this a linux geeky type thing??
Seems strange when you look at what computers are capable of that a minority
(I am taking a stab in the virtual darkness) still insist on using a text
Alister Waller wrote:
...snip...
Can I ask why people use non-html enabled mail clients??
The real answer is why not? They still work and work well.
My pet hate is the arms race that people are forced into with linux.
What is the benefit of this?
Faster, less storage, simple, easier,
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 11:06:27AM +1000, Alister Waller wrote:
I have now switched to plain text.
Thank you.
Can I ask why people use non-html enabled mail clients?? What is the benefit
Because mutt is the best mail client I've found so far. Because I appreciate
content far more than
Alister Waller said something along the lines of:
I have now switched to plain text.
Hooray! :)
Can I ask why people use non-html enabled mail clients?? What is the benefit
of this? Is this a linux geeky type thing??
Matt Elkins, the original author of mutt (the email client I use)
Ok, all very good reasons for using text based email. I wasn't being
aggressive, unlike some replies, I was asking the questions out of genuine
curiosity.
Now, in regard to bandwith. Why do some people send the same email to me as
they send to the list, i read the list??? surely that is creating
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
Then there's the Pine users, but we won't go into that. :D
And what's wrong with the Pine users? And do you wanna make something of
it? :-)
_MY_ version of PINE strips HTML crap perfectly. :-)
DaZZa
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Ok, all very good reasons for using text based email. I wasn't being
aggressive, unlike some replies, I was asking the questions out of genuine
curiosity.
no problem. just because modern computers can do gee-whiz things doesn't mean
that they should be doing them.
Now, in regard
jest
Well for those of you who complained about my email it was actually in
ASCII text format with a non-proportional font.
Can I ask why people use html enabled mail clients?? What is the benefit
of this? Is this a Windows thing?? Seems strange when you look at what
computers are capable of
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 01:18:08AM -, Stuart Cooper wrote:
Ok, all very good reasons for using text based email. I wasn't being
aggressive, unlike some replies, I was asking the questions out of genuine
curiosity.
no problem. just because modern computers can do gee-whiz
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
Then there's the Pine users, but we won't go into that. :D
Oi, I resemble that comment! Appart from not having thread support I am
very happy with it. Works well over SSH.
Rodos
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On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 12:08:43PM +1100, DaZZa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Alister Waller wrote:
Now, in regard to bandwith. Why do some people send the same email to me as
they send to the list, i read the list??? surely that is creating bandwith??
Because people
From: Rodos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
Then there's the Pine users, but we won't go into that. :D
Oi, I resemble that comment! Appart from not having thread support I am
very happy with it. Works well over SSH.
You mean there's a better way than 'cat
Here, here (8-)
Caution, mailer war on the horizon.
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On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Rodos wrote:
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
Then there's the Pine users, but we won't
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 10:22:50AM +1000, Alister Waller wrote:
Is there some rule about not using HTML formated email on this list??
if so, why is that?
Because instant deletion by 90% of the list is not conducive to
discussion. You were hoping that others would _read_ your
message, no?
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On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Andrew Reilly wrote:
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 10:22:50AM +1000, Alister Waller wrote:
Is there some rule about not using HTML formated email on this list??
if so, why is that?
Because instant deletion by 90% of the list is not conducive to
discussion. You were
Of course anyone atempting to read Rick's howler using Outlook Express would
not have seen the point he was making!
Therefore an excellent in-joke.
At least Outlook (without the Express) gives the user the option to send
stuff as plain text for those of use forced to use it (mumble mutter) at
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Jill Rowling wrote:
Of course anyone atempting to read Rick's howler using Outlook Express would
not have seen the point he was making!
Therefore an excellent in-joke.
I've had lotsa fun with
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by emailing the above, accompanied by a limerick, that the
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