Re: [RCSE] Surface flutter revisited

2003-02-22 Thread soar
Craig Toutolmin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : Lighter surfaces minimize amplitude. Surfaces counterbalanced to the hinge : line will minimize the amplitude. Servos with a higher spring constant I have to question the statement about counterbalancing. The kind of mass we are concerned with is

RE: [RCSE] Battery power for LSF 8 hour slope -- Why?..Cause I can

2003-02-22 Thread Steve Siebenaler
The 8 hour slope task was my most amazing day of soaring. I couldn't have scripted it and quite frankly, others told me after the achievement, that they had real serious doubts if I was to be successful. I used two servo Olympic II (called Milvus Govindus) with 4 AA alkaline batteries, which in

Re: [RCSE] Surface flutter revisited

2003-02-22 Thread Aerofoam
I have to question the statement about counterbalancing. The kind of mass we are concerned with is rotational mass, i.e. moment of inertia. Counterbalancing increases MI, the opposite of what we want. But it increases the rotational mass without increasing the surface area, so the

Re: [RCSE] gluing servos in wing

2003-02-22 Thread tony estep
The last tim I did it, here's what I did. I made 1/32 ply floors for the servo wells and gave them a thin coat of epoxy so they wouldn't be porous. Then I got some 2 diameter heat-shrink at the local industrial electronics store ($5 for a 5-year supply). This is a bit rubbery, not slick. Cut the

Re: [RCSE] Surface flutter revisited

2003-02-22 Thread soar
Aerofoam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : But it increases the rotational mass without increasing the surface area, so : the increased mass : dampens the movement. It takes more force to get the surface moving in the : first place. That would mean counterbalancing is equivalent to making heavier

RE: [RCSE] Hitec--no joke this time and my Sportube Travels

2003-02-22 Thread Eric Weder
Title: Message I was required to unlock my Sportube and suitcaseat LAX last weekend, fortunately they do the inspections in front of you at the United baggage counter. I'd used a Ty-Rap on the Sportube because I'd misplaced the lock - they cut it off tried to us a twist tie to close it. I

Re: [RCSE] Surface flutter revisited

2003-02-22 Thread Mark Drela
But it increases the rotational mass without increasing the surface area, so the increased mass dampens the movement. That's backwards. Mass is not the same as damping. Adding rotational mass (inertia to be more exact) actually reduces the damping forces relative to the inertial forces, so it

RE: [RCSE] Battery power for LSF 8 hour slope -- Why?..Cause I can

2003-02-22 Thread James V. Bacus
At 09:10 AM 2/22/2003, Steve Siebenaler wrote: Steve Siebenaler (one silly win from Level V) All those away contests TK and I road tripped to last season to help make sure there were enough pilots for a Level V contest so you could have a chance to get that win... us and more Chicago buds will

Re: [RCSE] Lastest Goop Over EPP Recommendations

2003-02-22 Thread GaryLinda Legerton
I just buy it by the tube.One thing else that I forgot to mention was to use the Marine Goop as it has the U.V.blocker in it.This will prevent it from yellowing and breaking down. One tube should be more than enough to do a fuse. Gary - Original Message - From: Albert Wedworth [EMAIL

Re: [RCSE] Lastest Goop Over EPP Recommendations

2003-02-22 Thread GaryLinda Legerton
The Gooped fuse has a semi-candy apple finish to it. Plus it is exremely more resistant to scrapes and scuffing and the fraying of ultracoat that occur's normally with the typical covered fuselage. I don't recomend doing wings this was because it dosn't have the torsional rigidity that ultracoat

Re: [RCSE] Surface flutter revisited

2003-02-22 Thread Randy Bullard
But in any case, mass balancing seems very impractical in foam-core RC glider wings. Not if what you are doing is trying to break the DS speed record as Craig is. I've seen the wing. You could support the wing tips and stand on the center section. And it probably wouldn't flex at all. Craig is

[RCSE] Last Call for the Stratos, Organic For sale.

2003-02-22 Thread George Voss
I have a very good condition Stratos for sale. $675 without servos and $875 with 4 Multiplex Digital servos. I also have a very good condition Organic for $450. The flying surfaces are brand new/never flown and the fuse is used with the typical landing scratches. Both are + shipping. gv

Re: [RCSE] Battery power for LSF 8 hour slope -- Why?

2003-02-22 Thread James Porter Jr
I have a chance to get this slope flight completed with the proper level two witnesses next month. I want to fly a six JR368 digital servo model for this. (I know, get a paragon.) Any ideas on battery type to make sure I have the eight hour go? Sounds like the worst possible plane to use for

Re: [RCSE] gluing servos in wing

2003-02-22 Thread jaffee
On my flaps, at least, I use masking tape. Never had it come loose on me. If you have a two or three piece wing, and you can get to the servo from the root, a lot of people say that you can take a long dowel and tap on the servo from the side, which will pop it free. At 06:27 AM 2/22/03 -0800,

Re: [RCSE] Surface flutter revisited

2003-02-22 Thread jaffee
Gotta go with Craig here. Everything I've read says that mass balancing a control surface decreases the chance of flutter http://www.fly-imaa.org/imaa/hfarticles/howto/v6-1-36.html I'm suprised I haven't seen a DS plane with mass balances yet. At 07:07 AM 2/22/03 -0800, wrote: Craig