Mike,
I¹m the ³people² here, but I¹m just following the sage advice of those who
have gone before us. Chuck¹s testament:
After a few years, we began receiving complaints about not being able
to zoom so in order to satisfy those who came to zoom instead of
thermal, we added a bypass switch. If
Wow, I have my own land now. Cool...
I have no idea who came up with the idea of using a threaded rod. But I
always liked when everyone else used them since while a threaded rod is
easy to adjust, it's the poorest at getting rid of the heat generated.
Flat sheets are nicer. And stainless
Without knowing for sure, I don't think we want the same resistance as
the F3B winches.
The F3B winches use mono so they get power from that, and the FLS draws
way more amperage, so if we resistor down to where the F3B winches are
the resistors will probably get smoked...
I would think we would
Jeff, I had a FLS wade built motor powered winch with a wide drum that I used
with mono for F3B and with braided 200 lb test line for TD. this winch had a
1/2 inch dia threaded stainless steel rod as a resistor to make it F3B legal
and it was never disconnected.
1) You can't hurt the S/S rod
There's a much better method than using a resistor. The resistor
generates heat that is pure wasted energy. Instead, an automatic pulser
that cuts the power to the solenoids when the current exceeds a certain
value is a much better solution. There's an even better advantage to
this solution
One big advantage of the resistor is that the heat goes into the air -
not into the windings and brushes when you start pulsing the juice for a
power limit.
Dick Barker
HLG doesn't need any stinking winch!
At 12:38 PM -0500 12/22/07, Anker Berg-Sonne wrote:
There's a much better method than
Dave, all well and good, but the average club/pilot doesn't have a wide
drum only a drum that equals the length of the long shaft.
Hell if we use a wide drum there's no need for a long shaft, just build
an F3B winch.
I have used my F3B winch with braided on occasion, it doesn't have the
zip
That resistor rod is a really good idea -- simple, effective and robust.
A lot of the discussion about launching has been the effect on the line
but that's the least of our problems. We've put stronger line on our
winches -- we're at 270lb test at the moment -- but all that's done for
us is
Actually I haven't proposed that we use specific F3B winches for TD, but to use
the F3B resistance spec. as base line to better control and equalize the FLS
powered winches for our US TD comps and allow the lower lb test line usage.
A side effect is that this would allow a FLS powered winch to
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From: Martin Usher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Soaring Exchange soaring@airage.com
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Launching Sanity
That resistor rod is a really good idea -- simple, effective and robust.
A lot of the discussion about launching has
I think Dennis Phelan, of Mike Lachowski Land, deserves the credit for the S/S
threaded resistor rod rod for use with the FLS Motors.
At least I got my first one from Dennis when he graduated to a F3B specific
winch.
So blame Dennis, not me.
Regards, Dave Corven.
RCSE-List facilities provided
Long, but read it anyway.
Tension limiter discussions come and go and even the simplest concepts not only
add a substantial cost to each winch an more potential failure points which
could put a winch in a contest situation down for the day, where a broken line
can usually repaired within a few
That makes Good sense. Some people have to much time to think. GOOD Job Dave
!!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Marc Gellart [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring Exchange
soaring@airage.com
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:44 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Launching Sanity
Long
At 09:44 PM 12/21/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
I propose that we get the Soaring Nats winches resistorised for this
years Soaring Nats and with lighter line than the 300 lb test line
that we have migrated to this last year.
...
But they launched a 52 oz 2 meter Duck in downwind with
I guess everyone forgot how to use the FOOT PEDAL.
As soon as you throw in a little wood trophy, everyone forgets.
Learn to read your plane on launch.
Dave Hauch
www.rc-builds.com
John,
You are right about psuedo sandbagging that can occure in MOM,
especially when you are launching a large group, BUT! Dayton is who started
this MOM craze with our part of the world, and they use to have simultaneous
(within a 10 second window), and there is some bad scenes there too. I
-- there, I said it, didn't want to have a thread that didn't
include the Special Word.
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From: Bob Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:22 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Launching
OK this is way off topic, It's about soaring. I have
I have been sloping with a Zagi, and I had trouble getting used to launching
it. I finally came up with 2 'techniques' that I like. Hold it by the
nose, thumb on top, 3 fingers pushing up - press forward almost like
throwing a dart. I will also put two fingers in the center of the trailing
Having been one of the Winch Masters at the last 10+ Nats or so, this is
a subject I am somewhat familiar with. Some comments:
1. The launching plane has no choice but to launch from the launch
equipment in its designated location; the plane in flight has the entire
sky to fly in.
2. The
: [RCSE] Launching my Majestic
I tend to launch my Majestic on the aggressive side. However I did
beef
up the center section of the wing. I went with the typical use of carbon
on
the spars and ran double shearwebs for the entire span of the center
section.
There were a couple of Guys
Hi,
my friend Marcel Bradette built a large thermal
flying wing (8 ft, 5 pounds) and he wants to build
a launching ramp for it so he could hi-start it
without help from someone else.
We need info about building such a ramp,
particularly about the release mechanism.
Thank you very much
--
up coming around and landing, beautifully I might add,
but was still puckered.
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From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 04:52 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Launching with ailerons reversed
I'm always impressed by those who can su
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