RE: [RCSE] one more comment about zooming, and then I swear I'll stop

2002-07-18 Thread Chris Kaiser
. Ciao - Chris ** Chris Kaiser (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Auckland, NEW ZEALAND > -Original Message- > From: Bill Johns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, 19 July 2002 4:00 p.m. > To: Mark Drela; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RCSE] one more comment about zo

RE: [RCSE] one more comment about zooming, and then I swear I'll stop

2002-07-18 Thread James V. Bacus
At 01:31 AM 7/19/2002, Chris Kaiser wrote: >Are we talking braided or mono line? I assumed braided on a strong contest type, ford long shaft winch. The launch technique I am speaking of mainly involves my experience with American Unlimited TD or F3J two man tows. . Jim Downers Grove, IL Membe

RE: [RCSE] one more comment about zooming, and then I swear I'll stop

2002-07-18 Thread Chris Kaiser
D] > Subject: Re: [RCSE] one more comment about zooming, and then I swear > I'll stop > > > At 11:31 PM 7/18/2002, you wrote: > >Only if you push the elevator in a rather leisurely way. > >The nose-over should be as quick as your guts/reflexes allow. > > I

Re: [RCSE] one more comment about zooming, and then I swear I'll stop

2002-07-18 Thread Steve Meyer
You need to get out and fly with some good pilots. Or go visit a large contest. Muncie Indiana next week! Not if the other pilot also has good soaring skills. In dead air, he who launches highest wins. Steve At 10:26 PM 7/18/2002 -0700, Mark E. Johnson wrote: >Very interesting thread but

Re: [RCSE] one more comment about zooming, and then I swear I'll stop

2002-07-18 Thread Mark E. Johnson
Very interesting thread but I wonder just how effective the zoom launch is because a large number of the pilots I have seen who try to zoom (myself included) gain very little or even lose altitude and in the attempt often end up over stressing their sailplane to the amusement of others. Given the

Re: [RCSE] one more comment about zooming, and then I swear I'll stop

2002-07-18 Thread James V. Bacus
At 11:31 PM 7/18/2002, you wrote: >Only if you push the elevator in a rather leisurely way. >The nose-over should be as quick as your guts/reflexes allow. I can flick it off the line smoother than that and still preserve almost all my forward acceleration up the line. The energy release is smoo

Re: [RCSE] one more comment about zooming, and then I swear I'll stop

2002-07-18 Thread Mark Drela
>More important, all of the good energy built up in >the line and in the airframe will be mostly if not >entirely lost in the transition to the steep >dive before any reasonable gain could be made by the >winch pulling the model down the line. Only if you push the elevator in a rather leisurel

Re: [RCSE] one more comment about zooming, and then I swear I'll stop

2002-07-18 Thread James V. Bacus
At 10:32 PM 7/18/2002, Steve Meyer wrote: >Mark, but how long does it take for a plane to rotate to a near vertical >dive. Before that happens the tension will be gone. That is why you will >pass up the chute. More important, all of the good energy built up in the line and in the airframe wi