Hi
Not real sure that X would do a lot of good on a 4801 box
Bob
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Subject: Re: [Soekris] Soekris 5501 with SSD disks
In message , Bob Camp writes:
>Hi
>
>If half the disk is un-used, there's a *lot* of space to move the directory
sectors off to as they wear ...
Yeah, well, only if t
vive. Even with wear leveling, there will be too many
> writes.
> Good luck,
> Ralph
>
> On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 18:08 -0500, Bob Camp wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> If I can re-write the entire disk once a day for 20 years, that's good
>> enough for what I'm doing.
Hi
If I can re-write the entire disk once a day for 20 years, that's good enough
for what I'm doing.
Bob
On Feb 2, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Ralph Green wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 07:41 -0500, Bob Camp wrote:
>
>> Next up is price. I'm seeing a 3 to 5X premium
7PM -0700, David Alexander wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:50:09 +, "Poul-Henning Kamp"
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <3f8f34c5-f376-46b0-9e2c-53a213d0e...@cq.nu>, Bob Camp writes:
>>>
>>>>> Don't get an SSD thinking you
Hi
At least as I understand it:
Properly done with TRIM, the file system lets the disk know each time a file
is deleted and space is now empty.
With garbage collection, the never used sectors are accumulated together to
make erase and re-write faster.
To some extent they are complementary o
Hi
Nothing wrong with FreeBSD. Nothing wrong with the 5501. Nothing wrong with the
disk you have chosen.
There are some disks out there than do have issues. Apparently they aren't very
efficient at handling the disk as it fills up.
Now if we could just get the TRIM command implemented in a Fr
Hi
What are you running for a terminal?
Most of these loaders assume that your terminal speaks ANSI escape codes.
Bob
On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:04 PM, Scott Newell wrote:
> At 09:35 PM 1/21/2010, Bob Camp wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> The strange looking stuff is likely the st
Hi
The strange looking stuff is likely the standard FreeBSD loader select screen.
The version on 7.2 shows up fine for me. the one on 8.0 looks just like you
describe.
If it is the same loader it should simply time out and move on. It takes about
10 seconds or so.
If not the same one, it's s
Hi
I'm sure Poul will by to come up with the correct answer.
I *think* that's the one you get when pps is not compiled into the kernel.
Could be wrong
Bob
On Dec 28, 2009, at 11:48 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote:
> What is the meaning of the error message:
>
> refclock_atom: time_pps creat
*think* I have all the IP for Altera.
>>
>> After a quick look I need to add the qualifier - cards that cost less than
>> 15 45xx boards...
>>
>>
>> Bob
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s...
Bob
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In message , Bob C
Hi
I had a nasty suspicion that was the case.
So now it's either get another 15 45xx boards or figure out another way to do
it.
Bob
On Dec 16, 2009, at 3:04 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message <011c0fceacbb4e59a0945d7c10a92...@vectron.com>, "Bob Camp" writes:
Hi
Very cool!!!
Based on what I have seen so far, the D510 (dual core) appears to be the
chip to have. The D410 (single core) can get bogged down pretty fast with
Gig E involved.
Bob
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efault configuration, but definitely hungrier than a Soekris.
I want to say that when we put my Kill-A-Watt on it, we saw 27W idle. We
used a Thinkpad T40-series power brick on it.
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:13:22 +0100, Bert Kiers
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Cc: Bob Camp; soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com
Subject: Re: [Soekris] net5501 freebsd 8.0 compile options
In message <4b27c5ac.9070...@wsg.net>, "David E. Cross" writes:
>I thought it was in the CPU itself. Seems a shame that AMD wou
Hi
That was my reaction when I found out
Bob
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Subject: Re: [Soekris] net5501 freebsd 8.0 compile options
Hi
My understanding is that the precision time stuff is specific to the 45xx
boards. The "magic hardware" that does the time stamping is not present on
the 55xx boards.
Been wrong before though
Bob
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Hi
I left one more thing out.
The Atom has one ethernet port on the motherboard. Most of them have a single
slot on the board. Going past 2 ports is a pain (usb ethernet ...). If you are
going to use more than 1 ethernet port, the 5501 has a significant advantage
Bob
On Dec 13, 2009, a
HI
I am running a couple of different Atom boards and a slew of 5501's. They are
*very* different animals.
With a CF card as the "disk", the 5501 is *much* lower power than any of the
Atom's that I have here. Even with fans on them the Atom boards get hot to the
touch. I have never seen a "ho
Hi
I suspect you would have to be careful about power consumption. That's
both in terms of the onboard power supply and in terms of heating up
the box.
Bob
On Feb 27, 2008, at 9:43 PM, Malcolm Herbert wrote:
> Has anyone tried running a net5501 with a video card in the PCI slot?
> I've had
Hi
There is a "dark side" to this. The better you document the product,
the easier it is to duplicate. Simply buying parts and tossing them on
a pc board is pretty easy these days. Documenting without giving away
to much is a fairly difficult art.
Bob
On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Martin K
Hi
If the 4801 is *not* EOL then the announcement on the web site is
pretty tough to figure out. It sure *looks* like it's a standard EOL
statement.
Bob
On Dec 22, 2007, at 6:10 PM, Bernd Walter wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 12:57:55PM -0500, Christophe Prevotaux wrote:
>> Actually for
Hi
We live in a strange world. If you want to go high speed with a memory
card, you pay money to get the "secret sauce" that allows you to do
it. The open standard for hitting all of them is a slow interface.
Most of the embedded community likes cheap better than fast.
Bob
On Dec 18, 2007
Hi
I have not seen any problems with FreeBSD's NTP on a 5501.
Bob
On Dec 3, 2007, at 7:26 AM, Tim Jakobsen wrote:
>> It's a standard option of ntpd. And I would not want to be making a
>> 12-second adjustment using it.
>>
>> Better to find/fix the underlying problem.
>>
>> There may be inform
Hi
My guess would be that the power supply is dead. I have seen some
problems, but never a board with absolutely no lights.
Bob
On Dec 1, 2007, at 1:57 AM, 赵佳 wrote:
> Hi guys ,I have bought a new net4801 board. But when I plugged in the
> DC Jack, nothing happens.None of the leds was ligh
Hi
When used as a fuse a ferrite bead generally does a poor job. They
will move quite a bit of current before they explode. I seem to prove
that every so often ...
Bob
On Nov 28, 2007, at 1:59 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:
> Greetings all
>
> I have a net4801 that, unfortunately, was running conn
Hi
I keep a "good" CF and power supply around. If the board does not boot
with them I send it back to Soekris.
The regulators are pretty obvious on the board. You can check a good
board and get the voltages on the big capacitors. I have never found a
problem that way, so I stopped doing it.
Hi
The point it stops at is roughly the end of the boot process. More or
less the choices on the list are:
1) It locked up running a local init script
2) You switched baud rates between the boot process and login process
3) A local script sent a string or flipped a pin that has your
terminal
Hi
The master / slave thing has been going on for a long time. I suspect
that if there was an easy fix it would be gone by now.
The source of the problem seems to be the way the card reports it's
self to the BIOS. The BIOS is simply doing what the card tells it to do.
Bob
On Oct 28, 2007,
Hi
One idea - contact the people who issued your credit card. Many of
them will give you a "single use number".
Bob
On Oct 15, 2007, at 6:54 AM, Stanislav Meduna wrote:
> Bill Maas wrote:
>
>> The problem is that I don't like having my credit card nos. all
>> over the
>> place, so I asked
Hi
The BIOS upgrade process is pretty specific to Windows Hyperterminal
implementation of XMODEM / CRC. They use a somewhat non-standard
method for getting CRC running. Most normal communications programs
drop back to checksum XMODEM when they see what the bios is doing.
Once they do that
Hi
Any idea if any of the recent bios changes will affect the 45xx
machines?
Bob
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Hi
I completely agree with you. It's something that would be very
useful. Even if it was just a page of links it would make the process
easier.
Last time I brought this up, the general consensus was *not* in favor
of the idea. It's more or less it's a bandwidth issue. If it's going
to get
Hi
Sounds like it's time to become TC inc
I certainly would keep trying. There are a lot of distributors out
there and this kind of thing is what they do for a living. Somebody
should be able to help out.
Bob
On Sep 27, 2007, at 3:11 PM, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
> Bob Camp
Hi
I would talk to one of the distributors in Europe. It sounds like a
good card. You might get them to stock the "second" one.
Bob
On Sep 26, 2007, at 9:42 AM, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
> Tomasz Chmielewski schrieb:
>> Bob Camp schrieb:
>>> Hi
>>>
&
Hi
I bet it's an either / or sort of thing. You either get the CF and no
ATA or you get the ATA, but can not use the CF. I have not seen the
card up close so I could be totally wrong about that.
Bob
On Sep 23, 2007, at 5:10 PM, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
> Dustin Lundquist schrieb:
>> Tomasz
Hi
This is not a knock on the company below, or the very helpful person
who gave us the link. It's just something I noticed when I followed
the link...
Am I the only one that's put off by "send us an email and we'll let
you know what it costs?". It sort of makes me wonder if the product
r
Hi
Sounds like a fine thing to talk about here to me.
What were your plans for antennas? Chop holes in the case, or
something more creative?
Bob
On Sep 22, 2007, at 4:39 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
> Randy Bush wrote:
>> is there a published cookbook recipe for using the metrix cm9
>> (http://met
Hi
I would pop out the CF and any other cards. That would at least
narrow down the cause of the failure. Swapping the power supply is
probably a good idea as well.
Bob
On Sep 19, 2007, at 3:23 AM, magnus.hagdorn wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> I wonder if you have any suggestions of what I could tr
Hi
If you had the silicon resources you would directly ID each device as
it interrupted. Back a long time ago (as in I had hair on my head
then) there wasn't enough silicon available for that kind of thing.
Today it would be pretty easy to do chip wise. Changing every
motherboard, card, a
Hi
I have been using AData 1 Gig cards. The ones that I got back in July
worked fine in everything. The last batch of 40 that I got work in
the 48xx and the 55xx, but are not recognized at all by the 4501.
Bob
On Sep 13, 2007, at 5:40 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> At 05:36 PM 9/13/2007,
Hi
Has anybody else seen problems with recently manufactured CF cards
being recognized in the 4501?
Bob
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Hi
As others have mentioned, there are a lot of ways to do the Mac to
4521 connection. I have yet to find one that *does not* work on the
Mac for basic communication.
There is one thing to be careful about. The ComBios serial flash
update uses Xmodem-CRC. The process the bios uses is "tuned
Hi
A couple fairly easy things to add on the login box, most of them are
just cron jobs:
1) Login timing - only login first 5 seconds of the minute
2) Rotating passwords by day / hour
3) Logging and email alerts - every login attempt generates an email
4) Login hours - If you are home at night,
Hi
They definitely showed up long enough this week to ship out my stuff
and to answer a couple of emails. They mentioned that the serial disk
mount is now "on hold".
There's obviously some work going on. I suspect that they are simply
a bit swamped at this point. I have not seen any replies
Hi
I just got a box of stuff in the mail. Inside where a bunch of
net5501ATA disk mount brackets and a couple of net5501's. The
brackets seem to work pretty well. All required screws, jumpers and
cables came with the brackets. The bios on the 5501's is rev 1.32
with a date of 2007 06 06
B
Hi
I have not seen any "official" errata from Soekris on the 5501. I
also have not seen anything on the card flash differences between the
1.2x bios and the 1.31 version. Hopefully that's because they are so
busy working on the fixes to comment.
Bob
On Aug 22, 2007, at 2:25 AM, Joerg Scho
Hi
The high jitter is normal when the system is unable to "tune" the
local clock far enough.
How old is the 4501 box? Everything I have seen in the last few
months has been very close to the correct frequency.
Turning off NTP and just checking the system time against a wrist
watch should s
Hi
You got a drive cable kit with your 5501
I've had one on back order for quite a while and have yet to see it.
grump ... grump ...
Of course the way we operate it could be sitting up on the receiving
dock gathering dust.
Bob
On Aug 12, 2007, at 6:39 AM, Bent wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just
Hi
The only disadvantage to using a 16 volt supply is that it's not 12
volts :)
Some odd cards require a +12 volt supply and it can be stolen from a
+12 volt unregulated input. If you have a +16 supply then you would
have to do something a bit more complex. I have not seen any cards
here
anning on running Linux and was hoping to have this modem
> allow me to get console or tty access via a dial-up. I'd rather
> not have to use an external modem and connect it by cable to the
> built in console port.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> ----- Original Me
Hi
A *lot* of modem cards these days are "win modems". Most of the real
processing is on the driver side rather than in hardware. That's
going to make doing this a little tough.
What OS are you planning to use? It may make a difference in terms of
what drivers are or are not functional.
Bo
up in the order they show. Then turn it
back on again. Counters typically are very picky about doing things
in the proper order.
Past that I can't help much. When I want to bang bits in assembler I
do it on a PIC Micro.
Bob
On Aug 8, 2007, at 10:01 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> At 06:1
Hi
What OS are you running?
Bob
On Aug 8, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> At 02:26 AM 7/24/2007, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>> --===1199632190==
>>
>>
>> There's a little secret about the 5501 which Søren hasn't sad much
>> about yet: The 5501 has a simple "lights out" featur
Hi
I had one of those “wonderful” experiences with a new set of CF cards
today.
I picked up a batch of 40 cards from my usual supplier and *surprise*
they are not quite the same as the last batch. That's not terribly
unusual, and I expected to be able to take care of it with a modest
amou
Hi
I *think* the bios chip is on the board in a socket. If so swapping
the chip by mail would save postage.
Bob
On Aug 6, 2007, at 9:58 PM, Jason Rabel wrote:
> William,
>
> Just for grins, try pulling out the CF card and see if it will POST
> completely.
>
> Worst case you can send them in
Hi
I think you will find that it varies a *lot* with the configuration
of any cables coming out of the box. You will always have the
ethernet clocks as peaks, pretty much no matter what you do. You will
also have peaks at 33 1/3 MHz and it's multiples.
A proper run with the "correct" antenn
Hi
It could be a board problem .
The question becomes which board. The easy way to work it out is to
start swapping parts and see what part the problems follow. That only
works if you have multiple 4801's, multiple disks / CF cards,
multiple lan switches, and multiple DHCP servers (talk
Hi
Even if everything is "perfect" with the injectors there is the drop
in the ethernet wires to consider.
POE is normally limited to 400 ma for a very good reason.
The wire used in most cables is 24 gauge (US). Each lead is commonly
rated at about 1/2 amp maximum in cable bundles. Resistanc
Hi
This is just a guess. I have not seen the problem you describe.
Can you catch the BIOS with a control-p before it reboots again?
If so do a show and see what the bios settings are. It's possible
that something is set very strange in the bios.
Again, that's only a guess. I am by no means an
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>
> Hi
>
> I think
Hi
I think I would leave Grub on the serial port. That way you will have
some kind of access if things go very wrong. Grub will be completely
out of the way long before the kernel is done loading and any
application will load.
Bob
On Jul 17, 2007, at 2:11 PM, Mark wrote:
> Thanks, RB. I
Hi
It's a little tough to send one out to a customer set up that way
It does work pretty well around the lab. I'm not sure about knots in
flat cable. I normally use RTV cement to just glue the cable to the box.
Bob
On Jul 14, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Max Campos wrote:
> No need to drill, just
Hi
A better alternative would be to get a *good* +5 volt external power
supply rated at a couple of amps. Then you could at least run the +5
only flavor of disks.
Bob
On Jul 13, 2007, at 11:49 AM, Egbert Jan wrote:
> As we all know is the powersupply of the Net4801 not really capable of
>
Hi
If we are taking a vote, I certainly would like to see a version with
multiple serial ports on the case. Running the cases in and out of
the machine shop here costs me more than anything Soekris would
charge for the same process.
The Net550x box gives you the option of plugging in a PCI
Hi
If the clock oscillator stops then you get a red light and nothing
much else. One thing you do seem to get is the lights on the ethernet
ports flashing. That might be one way to distinguish between a
massive problem and something a bit less significant.
Bob
On Jul 9, 2007, at 5:01 PM,
then so be it. I do
not see it as such a big deal.
Bob Camp
On Jul 3, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Michael Scheliga wrote:
> The issue is you have a mix of people, skills, uses, and different
> goals. Your intentions are good, but in practice "how to" things for
> something with so ma
Hi
A couple of simple "voting" diodes are a good idea, as is a fuse. If
you are on line power you want the Soekris to run off of line power
rather than the battery. You want no power going backwards into the
regulated supply from either the battery or the Soekris. I know that
one sounds od
Hi
The junk where you are may not be the junk where I am ...
Around here the kids seem to get electric powered cars and trucks
when they are about three or four years old. In a lot of cases the
toy is interesting for about three days. They are a fine source of
batteries and chargers.
I wou
most need it are starting out from
scratch. It would be good to have it where they can find it easily.
Fun stuff
Bob Camp
On Jul 3, 2007, at 10:35 AM, der Mouse wrote:
>> Let's say I just got my first Soekris in the mail and I've never done
>> any of this before.
laces.
It's not particularly easy to pull it all together first time around.
There are just enough odd things about the Soekris boards that it
might be worth doing. I still hold my breath each time I grab a new
flash card until I see which disk number it's going to boot as on
each
Hi
If it does not make it to bios with *everything* out (including the
CF card) then a good guess is that the board is toast.
Bob Camp
On Jul 1, 2007, at 12:46 PM, matthew saunders wrote:
> Hi Martin,
> Yes, I have removed everything in the end but it still behaves the
> sa
ith a CD on it. You could do it directly or via
PXE. It's going to be harder to set up initially this way than to do
the development on a PC. The only advantage to the on 550x
development is you only need a serial terminal if you do work in the
field.
Fun to fiddle with, but maybe not w
Hi
It would be *very* neat to be able to boot directly from the USB
flash. That seems to be a problem for most BIOS implementations. The
closest you can get with most boards is to boot from CF and then
mount the USB flash.
Bob
On Jun 30, 2007, at 4:12 PM, Kannaiyan Natesan wrote:
> Some
just fine with a full null modem cable.
Bob Camp
On Jun 29, 2007, at 9:27 AM, Kannaiyan Natesan wrote:
> Hi I received my 5501 and Would like to know how can I connect it to
> my computer. Just a gender changer of RS232 will do to connect it to
> the computer? (I have a RS232 Exten
tall. There is no way to put one on top of the other,
or either one on top of the CPU board.
Bob Camp
On Jun 28, 2007, at 7:21 PM, canuck15 wrote:
> Can anyone give a difinitive yes or no on this. I want to put in a
> standard 3.5" hard drive in a Net5501+case+PCI card. There is talk
igure out.
There are a lot of other possibilities, but I sure would check the
console stuff first.
Bob Camp
On Jun 27, 2007, at 4:54 AM, Domenico Cacciari wrote:
> Hi,
> i´ve installed linux ubuntu 2.6.20-16-server with grub on cf card... i
> have all the output on serial consol
or 480 Mb/sec. If you *really* need 4 x 480 Mb/
s you may need something with more cpu than the net5500 ...
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e well for
me. The drivers on FreeBSD 6.x are broken at the moment.
With both solutions you need to think about how much serial traffic
you will have. The "pipe" is only just so big
Bob Camp
On Jun 25, 2007, at 12:20 AM, Neal R wrote:
>
>
> I've in the proce
Hi
The "standard" power supplies go up to about 1.5 amps at 12 volts.
Depending on what you decide to use for a card and drive you may be
pushing the power supply past it's limits. For long term use staying
below around 80% of the rating is a good idea
Bob Camp
On Jun
rce. Most system designers will go
for a reference that's 5x or 10x better than the system requirement.
Something that does a microsecond should be just fine
Bob Camp
On Jun 23, 2007, at 10:02 PM, Jason Rabel wrote:
> You could probably start with a low cost Garmin OEM GPS, but i
crystal to a
less stable region with the heater.
Bob Camp
On Jun 22, 2007, at 5:31 AM, Bob Bishop wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 22 Jun 2007, at 03:35, David Duchscher wrote:
>
>> On Jun 21, 2007, at 8:47 PM, Bob Camp wrote:
>>
>>> A reasonable alternative is to grab wha
plier / divider (like an ICS 525).
If you have everything in one stack then you *might* be able to use a
single frequency source. That's probably not a real good idea from a
reliability standpoint ...
Bob Camp
Mandatory truth in advertising notice - yes I'm in the OCXO
business .
Hi
What's the topology of your network?
If you have asymmetric routing delays they can easily limit your
accuracy.
We apparently have some creative IT guys, so we even see non-
stationary asymmetry on our LAN ....
Bob Camp
On Jun 20, 2007, at 9:05 PM, David Duchscher wrote:
> O
Hi
... or you could put a good low profile OCXO in as the frequency
standard :)
As far as I can tell you can get up to several hundred clients and
still have a lightly loaded net4501. With 30 to 40 clients "top"
shows almost no load at all (< < 1%).
Bob Camp
On Jun 20,
ingshao
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 07:33:39AM -0400, Bob Camp wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Take a look at Hammond Industries cases. A lot of places sell them
>> including DigiKey. They seem to be a little better made than the ones
>> from Bud.
>>
>> If you ar
Hi
Take a look at Hammond Industries cases. A lot of places sell them
including DigiKey. They seem to be a little better made than the ones
from Bud.
If you are going for more than a few hundred cases then custom begins
to make sense.
Bob Camp
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