Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-31 Thread Geert-Jan Brits
NP ;-) . Just to explain: With tooltips I meant js-tooltips (not the native webbrowser tooltips) since sliders require JS anyway, presenting additional info in a Js-tooltip on drag, doesn't limit the nr of people able to view it. I think this is ok from a usability standpoint since I don't

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-31 Thread Gijs Kunze
On 5/28/2010 9:31 PM, Chris Hostetter wrote: : Perhaps you could show the 'nr of items left' as a tooltip of sorts when the : user actually drags the slider. Years ago, when we were first working on building Solr, a coworker of mind suggested using double bar sliders (ie: pick a range using a

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-31 Thread Geert-Jan Brits
Interesting.. say you have a double slider with a discrete range (like tripadvisor et.al.) perhaps it would be a good guideline to use these discrete points for the quantum interval for the sparkline as well? Of course it then becomes the question which discrete values to use for the slider. I

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-31 Thread Geert-Jan Brits
May I ask how you implemented getting the facet counts for each interval? Do you use a facet-query per interval? And perhaps for inspiration a link to the site you implemented this .. Thanks, Geert-Jan I love the idea of a sparkline at range-sliders. I think if I have time, I might add them to

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-31 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 31.05.2010, at 11:29, Geert-Jan Brits wrote: May I ask how you implemented getting the facet counts for each interval? Do you use a facet-query per interval? And perhaps for inspiration a link to the site you implemented this .. Thanks, Geert-Jan I love the idea of a sparkline at

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-31 Thread gwk
On 5/31/2010 11:29 AM, Geert-Jan Brits wrote: May I ask how you implemented getting the facet counts for each interval? Do you use a facet-query per interval? And perhaps for inspiration a link to the site you implemented this .. Thanks, Geert-Jan I love the idea of a sparkline at

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-31 Thread gwk
On 5/31/2010 11:50 AM, gwk wrote: On 5/31/2010 11:29 AM, Geert-Jan Brits wrote: May I ask how you implemented getting the facet counts for each interval? Do you use a facet-query per interval? And perhaps for inspiration a link to the site you implemented this .. Thanks, Geert-Jan I love the

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-31 Thread gwk
On 5/31/2010 4:24 PM, gwk wrote: On 5/31/2010 11:50 AM, gwk wrote: On 5/31/2010 11:29 AM, Geert-Jan Brits wrote: May I ask how you implemented getting the facet counts for each interval? Do you use a facet-query per interval? And perhaps for inspiration a link to the site you implemented this

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-29 Thread Dennis Gearon
I'm interested in this stuff, but what is a 'sparkline', and can I get a URL of an example? Dennis Gearon Signature Warning EARTH has a Right To Life, otherwise we all die. Read 'Hot, Flat, and Crowded' Laugh at http://www.yert.com/film.php --- On Fri, 5/28/10, Chris

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-29 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Sat, 29 May 2010 00:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Dennis Gearon gear...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I'm interested in this stuff, but what is a 'sparkline', and can I get a URL of an example? [...] Here is one that I recently came across, and liked (look at the last example):

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-29 Thread Chris Hostetter
: I'm interested in this stuff, but what is a 'sparkline', and can I get a URL of an example? The email in this thread where i first suggested that sparklines on numeric facets would be cool had two links, one to the definitive Sparklines essay by Tufte

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-29 Thread Chris Hostetter
: Here is one that I recently came across, and liked (look at the : last example): http://moritz.stefaner.eu/projects/elastic-lists/ : The code has apparently also been recently open-sourced. Ah... that is a pretty awesome visual UI for facets -- and they do use sparklines but not in the way i

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-29 Thread Chris Hostetter
: see that economics prizes were added relatively late) but there isn't a : sparkline showing the statistical distribution of values across numeric : fields -- the only numeric field is year (well, they also have decade but : that's the same thing) and by having hte sparkline on the constraints

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-28 Thread Erik Hatcher
Here's a slider example that narrows down how many tags/facets are displayed: http://www.nines.org/tags How about a tree map? See my slides from the prototyping preso at EuroCon last week: http://lucene-eurocon.org/sessions-track2-day2.html#4 Pie in the sky, how about pie charts? I

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-28 Thread Mark Bennett
Thanks Geert, Trip Advisor was interesting, I also see another sliders site was sent around. But I don't think all their Facets are binding. For example, to test no-results, I set it to 4 start hotels in SF with a max of $50 / night - obviously not reasonable. But it showed some hotels. At

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-28 Thread Mark Bennett
Hi Lukas, Displaying 2 numbers is an interesting variant. Not for a casual consumer site, but actually pretty cool for a site appealing to engineers. On the formatting front though, the (nn/mm) is a bit visually dense. Might I suggest some tweaks: 1: Drop the parenthesis, in favor of some

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-28 Thread Mark Bennett
Haha! Important tooltips are now deprecated in Web Applications. This is nothing official, of course. But it's being advised to avoid important UI tasks that require cursor tracking, mouse-over, hovering, etc. in web applications. Why? Many touch-centric mobile devices don't support hover.

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-28 Thread Chris Hostetter
: Perhaps you could show the 'nr of items left' as a tooltip of sorts when the : user actually drags the slider. Years ago, when we were first working on building Solr, a coworker of mind suggested using double bar sliders (ie: pick a range using a min and a max) for all numeric facets and

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-28 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 28.05.2010, at 21:31, Chris Hostetter wrote: : Perhaps you could show the 'nr of items left' as a tooltip of sorts when the : user actually drags the slider. Years ago, when we were first working on building Solr, a coworker of mind suggested using double bar sliders (ie: pick a

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-28 Thread Chris Hostetter
: Years ago, when we were first working on building Solr, a coworker of mind : suggested using double bar sliders (ie: pick a range using a min and a : max) for all numeric facets and putting sparklines above them to give : the user a visual indication of the spread of documents across the

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-28 Thread Lukáš Vlček
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Chris Hostetter hossman_luc...@fucit.orgwrote: : Years ago, when we were first working on building Solr, a coworker of mind : suggested using double bar sliders (ie: pick a range using a min and a : max) for all numeric facets and putting sparklines above

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-28 Thread Lukáš Vlček
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Lukáš Vlček lukas.vl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Chris Hostetter hossman_luc...@fucit.org wrote: : Years ago, when we were first working on building Solr, a coworker of mind : suggested using double bar sliders (ie: pick a

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-28 Thread Chris Hostetter
: you mean something like the following? : http://hledani.rozhlas.cz/?query=jazzback=defaultNavigation=; : Also http://markmail.org has some nice chart Yeah ... those are close to what i mean -- but in both cases there is really one big visual graph of a single numeric value (ironicly it's a

Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-27 Thread Mark Bennett
I'm a big fan of plain old text facets (or tags), displayed in some logical order, perhaps with a bit of indenting to help convey context. But as you may have noticed, I don't rule the world. :-) Suppose you took the opposite approach, rending facets in non-traditional ways, that were still

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-27 Thread Geert-Jan Brits
Something like sliders perhaps? Of course only numerical ranges can be put into sliders. (or a concept that may be logically presented as some sort of ordening, such as bad, hmm, good, great Use Solr's Statscomponent to show the min and max values Have a look at tripadvisor.com for good

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-27 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 27.05.2010, at 23:32, Geert-Jan Brits wrote: Something like sliders perhaps? Of course only numerical ranges can be put into sliders. (or a concept that may be logically presented as some sort of ordening, such as bad, hmm, good, great Use Solr's Statscomponent to show the min and max

Re: Sites with Innovative Presentation of Tags and Facets

2010-05-27 Thread Geert-Jan Brits
Perhaps you could show the 'nr of items left' as a tooltip of sorts when the user actually drags the slider. If the user doesn't drag (or hovers over ) the slider 'nr of items left' isn't shown. Moreover, initially a slider doesn't limit the results so 'nr of items left' shown for the slider