Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist not working as expected.

2003-06-01 Thread Jim Ford
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 08:10:15AM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: The only way to not have SA check a message is to not call SA under certain conditions. What, using procmail to send the trusted mail straight to the mailbox, bypassing SA? (Procmail - another program I'll have to get to grips

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist not working as expected.

2003-06-01 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 11:06:41AM +0100, Jim Ford wrote: However, I still see SA checking info in the headers of the whitelisted mails. Is this normal, please? Yes. A white/black-list does not stop SA from running over a message. They simply add a certain value (positive or negative) to the

RE: [SAtalk] OT: Exchange / Outlook Rule Deployment

2003-06-01 Thread Tom Meunier
Oh yeah. Almost forgot. http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q251/1/25.ASP -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 7:42 AM To: 'Stewart, John'; 'Ron Poserina Jr.'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.slipstick.com/rules/backup.htm

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist not working as expected.

2003-06-01 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 01:34:53PM +0100, Jim Ford wrote: What, using procmail to send the trusted mail straight to the mailbox, bypassing SA? (Procmail - another program I'll have to get to grips with!) If you're using procmail, yes. Basically you need to put the logic of do I want to filter

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd not working anymore

2003-06-01 Thread Steve Wilson
Jack Gostl wrote: My /home/$user/.procmail/rules.rc file is: :0fw | /usr/bin/spamc :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes SPAM --- That now works only if I change line2 to /usr/bin/spamassassin. This isn't a terribly big system here, so I suppose I could get away with that, but I'd much prefer to

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist not working as expected.

2003-06-01 Thread Jack Gostl
I'm going to repost a message from Gary Funck that solves this nicely. I've been running it for awhile and it works like a charm. -- From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 29 08:08:49 2003 Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 20:56:10 -0700 From: Gary Funck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: SpamAssassin listserve

[SAtalk] some errors related to spamassassin?

2003-06-01 Thread Ted Fiedler
I am testing spamassassin at home for possible use at work, where there are 1000+ users as opposed to one. I keep seeing two errors in particular popping up and Im not even sure if they are worth worrying about as, I beleive Ive come up with a solution for one... anyway. Im running spamassassin on

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd not working anymore

2003-06-01 Thread Steve Wilson
Jack Gostl wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2003, Steve Wilson wrote: My /home/$user/.procmail/rules.rc file is: :0fw | /usr/bin/spamc :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes SPAM --- That now works only if I change line2 to /usr/bin/spamassassin. This isn't a terribly big system here, so I suppose I could get

Re: [SAtalk] Reporting spam via Theo Van Dinter's Handlespam Problem.

2003-06-01 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Jim Ford wrote on Thu, 29 May 2003 23:49:05 +0100: Theo Van Dinter's Handlespam can you give a URL? I must have overlooked it getting mentioned anywhere. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center: http://ie5.de

[SAtalk] Ham/spam aliases

2003-06-01 Thread LuKreme
Has anyone setup local mail aliases for ham and spam? What I want is when someone receives a mail that is spam but not marked by SA, they redirect the message to a this-is-spam email alias, which then runs it through sa-learn -spam similarly, there would be a this-is-ham address for sa-learn

[SAtalk] spam message being delivered

2003-06-01 Thread Damian Mendoza
Hi, I found a couple of messages that had a score of 5.8 - 5 being my default SPAM level. They were delivered to the end-user, however they should have been quarantined. Using SA 2.52 and MailScanner 4.12-2 Any ideas? Thanks, Damian ---

[SAtalk] Re: Forwarding ham to another mailbox (using .forward)

2003-06-01 Thread LuKreme
On Thursday, May 8, 2003, at 10:58 Canada/Mountain, Bill Horsman wrote: On Thu, 2003-05-08 at 17:22, Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 05:12:34PM +0100, Bill Horsman wrote: But my question is: how do I get SA to forward just ham mail to my bill-cp mailbox? Add a rule to your

Re: [SAtalk] New doc: Postfix + site-wide SpamAssassin + Procmail for individual 'spam' mailboxes

2003-06-01 Thread greg
Sorry, I know absolutely nothing about cyrus. Greg could you describe an alternative scenario using cyrus On Fri, 30 May 2003, Greg Webster wrote: Hello, SpamAssassin mailing list :) Some new documentation I've created. I'll be placing this online, but figured I'd post it here as well.

RE: [SAtalk] OT: Exchange / Outlook Rule Deployment

2003-06-01 Thread Ron Poserina Jr.
Thanks for all the good info guys, will investigate the feasability on my end. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 8:45 AM To: Stewart, John; Ron Poserina Jr.; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] OT: Exchange / Outlook Rule

Re: [SAtalk] spam message being delivered

2003-06-01 Thread Ted Fiedler
is there a rule grabbing it and saying that its OK to deliver before any other rules get processed? for example I had [EMAIL PROTECTED] in my user_prefs as a whitelist item and I was sending test messages full of high scoring spam goodness and they were being delivered to the mailbox sent to

Re: [SAtalk] Ham/spam aliases

2003-06-01 Thread William Stearns
God afternoon, (LuKreme?), On Sat, 31 May 2003, LuKreme wrote: Has anyone setup local mail aliases for ham and spam? What I want is when someone receives a mail that is spam but not marked by SA, they redirect the message to a this-is-spam email alias, which then runs it through sa-learn

Re: [SAtalk] Ham/spam aliases

2003-06-01 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:37 PM 5/31/2003 -0400, William Stearns wrote: God afternoon, (LuKreme?), On Sat, 31 May 2003, LuKreme wrote: Has anyone setup local mail aliases for ham and spam? What I want is when someone receives a mail that is spam but not marked by SA, they redirect the message to a this-is-spam

RE: [SAtalk] Re: Forwarding ham to another mailbox (using .forward)

2003-06-01 Thread Gary Funck
Also, you don't need the spamassassin.lock file [this avoids the lock fiile] ;0fw | /usr/bin/spamassassin Yeah, the lock file is recommended in the SA docs. as I recall, to keep from creating too many processes (ie, to serialize spamassassin calls on a per-user basis). Since procmail

Re: [SAtalk] New doc: Postfix + site-wide SpamAssassin + Procmailfor individual 'spam' mailboxes

2003-06-01 Thread Bob Apthorpe
On Sat, 31 May 2003 09:09:25 -0700 (PDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin wrote: could you describe an alternative scenario using cyrus Sorry, I know absolutely nothing about cyrus. That seems par for the course - between Cyrus and LDAP, it seems nobody can/will explain how to set up either

[SAtalk] my procmailrc (with sa-learning of FPs and FNs)

2003-06-01 Thread Duncan Findlay
I've mentioned from time to time that I'd post my procmailrc to this list. Here's how it works... all my mail goes through spamassassin. If it is a false positive, or false negative, I bounce it to daf-ham or daf-spam (respectively) My account name on my box is daf. You will want to change this!

[SAtalk] Ok... I missed something.....

2003-06-01 Thread Kirk Moore
I just upgraded to 2.55 and now the *SPAM* is not longer showing on the subject line. I see a small note, and somewhat have searched through 4000+ messages. Here's the idiot question. did I miss something... I moved from 2.50 to 2.55 -- Kirk Moore Network/Software Engineer

Re: [SAtalk] Ok... I missed something.....

2003-06-01 Thread Jon Reynolds
On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 10:01, Kirk Moore wrote: I just upgraded to 2.55 and now the *SPAM* is not longer showing on the subject line. I see a small note, and somewhat have searched through 4000+ messages. Here's the idiot question. did I miss something... I moved from 2.50 to

Re: [SAtalk] Reporting spam via Theo Van Dinter's Handlespam Problem.

2003-06-01 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 05:31:32PM +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote: can you give a URL? I must have overlooked it getting mentioned anywhere. I usually mention it on the list occasionally. http://www.kluge.net/~felicity/random/handlespam.txt Basically it'll take an mbox file and run each message

Re: [SAtalk] Reporting spam via Theo Van Dinter's Handlespam Problem.

2003-06-01 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 11:49:05PM +0100, Jim Ford wrote: reports (to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) are getting bounced with the error 'Domain of sender address does not exist', with my own local 'domain' and login name quoted. I suspect this is a sendmail issue and as I don't have a clue how to fix it,

Re: [SAtalk] site wide BAYES

2003-06-01 Thread guenther
Would it be wise (actually, would it do any harm) to have one BAYES database for a whole site, instead of per-user basis? (Just a hand full of users.) There are some advantages and some drawbacks here. On the advantage side as it learns from the spam of one user it can apply those lessons

Re: [SAtalk] Re: site wide BAYES

2003-06-01 Thread guenther
This is probably NOT a good idea (in general). Not everyone at your site will classify the same message in the same way. One or some of them may want to receive mortgage, hgh, viagra, or other home shopping spam in their inbox. If you know all your users to make this decision for them

Re: [SAtalk] New doc: Postfix + site-wide SpamAssassin + Procmail for individual 'spam' mailboxes

2003-06-01 Thread Alex van den Bogaerdt
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 02:57:16PM -0700, Greg Webster wrote: 3. As root, create a file at /usr/bin/postfixfilter with the following content: #!/bin/bash /usr/bin/spamc | /usr/sbin/sendmail -i $@ exit $? [...] 7. In /etc/postfix/master.cf in the Services section, alter the 'smtp'

Re: [SAtalk] Getting spamd to start on boot.

2003-06-01 Thread Stuart Gall
- Original Message - From: John Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:01 AM Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Getting spamd to start on boot. When I run chkconfig --list, spamd does not show up. When I run chkconfig --list spamd, I get the following: service

Re: [SAtalk] Advice Please

2003-06-01 Thread Stuart Gall
- Original Message - From: Vivek Khera [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Advice Please AL == Alan Leghart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AL to use different encoding (although, IIRC, it's not base-64 by AL default). I

Re: [SAtalk] site wide BAYES

2003-06-01 Thread William Stearns
Good evening, Guenther, On 30 May 2003, guenther wrote: How can I do that? Did not find any note, how to define a site wide BAYES database. TIA http://www.stearns.org/doc/spamassassin-setup.current.html#autoreporting Cheers, - Bill

[SAtalk] keeping local copies of outbound email using SA

2003-06-01 Thread Michael Weiner
I have a somewhat simple question, i hope someone can answer for me. I am currently using spamassassin-2.53 on a mail server and all it does is handle all incoming smtp traffic for a mail server sitting behind it, run its scans, and then passes it back to the other mail server. Everything is

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd not working anymore

2003-06-01 Thread Simon Byrnand
Jack Gostl wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2003, Steve Wilson wrote: My /home/$user/.procmail/rules.rc file is: :0fw | /usr/bin/spamc :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes SPAM --- That now works only if I change line2 to /usr/bin/spamassassin. This isn't a terribly big system here, so I suppose I could get

Re: [SAtalk] Getting spamd to start on boot.

2003-06-01 Thread Cassandra Lynette Brockett
I don't see what the problem is here. I compiled spamassassin via rpm -tb spamassassin-tar-ball to give me rpm's to install, and spamassassin is controlled via chkconfig spamassassin on and service spamassassin start/stop/restart works fine. If you are running a rhat box, you really should

Re: [SAtalk] (no subject)

2003-06-01 Thread Simon Byrnand
Hi Keoki - You should probably talk to your system administrator or your ISP, whomever handles your e-mail service. The mailing list you sent your message to is for people who use and develop SpamAssassin. There is little chance that anyone on this list has anything to do with your e-mail

[SAtalk] Interesting SA 2.55 issue

2003-06-01 Thread Abel Jeffcoat
Hello, I'm using SA 2.55 on a Red Hat 7.3 Box running Qmail. I just came a cross something interesting. I place the following line in my .qmail files: | Ifspamh e-mail-spam. So, the e-mail gets filtered through SA, and if it is spam it gets sent to x address. Please look at the bottom of this

Re: [SAtalk] (no subject)

2003-06-01 Thread Thomas Cameron
To be honest, I imagine the OP just doesn't get it, and quite possibly never will. I really just wanted to reply with something other than insults. I too have seen several of these messages posted to this list. I have been pretty appalled at how nasty many of the replies are. I have noticed

RE: [SAtalk] (no subject)

2003-06-01 Thread Per Björklund
Or, if people exclude this list when replying to anyone who for whatever reason send a complaint about spamassassin disrupting service or whatever... I don't see any reason for anyone to include the list in a reply?... / Per -Original Message- From: Simon Byrnand [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [SAtalk] SA on *n*x mail gateways protecting MSExchange Servers

2003-06-01 Thread Mike Leone
Patrick Morris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had this to say on 05/29/03 at 23:23: This may be a silly question -- but why not just have Sendmail do the LDAP account lookup itself (using the LDAP_ROUTING feature)? Seems like it'd be quite a bit less overhead to deal with than passing stuff to a

[SAtalk] Bayes R/O no auto learn

2003-06-01 Thread urbanbuda
I have auto_learn 1 in my local.cf but I dont appear to be learning any new spam in bayes. Checking the contents shows I am not quite up with my ham side yet but over o the spam. But the number of messages learned is from using sa-learn. spamassassin -D --lint shows the following strangeness

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes R/O no auto learn

2003-06-01 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 01:44:49AM +0100, urbanbuda wrote: The lines I am concerned about are the bayes tie-ing to DB file R/O, all other logs I have seen posted here always show this as R/W as does the auto-whitelist entry when it appears in my spamd output. What am I missing? In check mode,

Re: [SAtalk] (no subject)

2003-06-01 Thread Jack Gostl
As far as I know this is an open list that allows non-subscribers to post to it. BIG MISTAKE for a list of this nature IMHO. If the list were made subscriber posting only then a number of things would happen: If you think this is a hassle, have some sympathy for the list manager who has to

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd not working anymore

2003-06-01 Thread Jack Gostl
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote: Jack Gostl wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2003, Steve Wilson wrote: My /home/$user/.procmail/rules.rc file is: :0fw | /usr/bin/spamc :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes SPAM --- That now works only if I change line2 to /usr/bin/spamassassin. This

[SAtalk] Evolution and SPAM Assassin

2003-06-01 Thread S. Anthony Sequeira
[Please do NOT cc me, I am a subscriber to the list] I have spent a few days G configuring my system to use SA and Razor. Once I found Bill Stearns excellent reference document, it was a (relative) breeze. My problem (such as it is) is using the system wide spam and ham traps. My emailer is

[SAtalk] Spamassassin Milter ? [Partially OT]

2003-06-01 Thread Cassandra Lynette Brockett
I'm looking at implementing a milter in sendmail that passes the email through spamassassin but allows us to reject at mta level if the sa rating is over a certain level (e.g. 30+ or something like that). Now, my question is simple - has anyone else got a milter running that does that? I would

Re: [SAtalk] Evolution and SPAM Assassin

2003-06-01 Thread guenther
My problem (such as it is) is using the system wide spam and ham traps. My emailer is Evolution, and to bounce the message, I need at minimum Alt a, o, d , address, send What I would like to do is automate this, perhaps with the use of a filter. Procmail springs to mind, but I have not

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin Milter ? [Partially OT]

2003-06-01 Thread Patrick Morris
MIMEdefang'll do everything you mentioned, and it's a (relative) snap to set up. Cassandra Lynette Brockett wrote: I'm looking at implementing a milter in sendmail that passes the email through spamassassin but allows us to reject at mta level if the sa rating is over a certain level (e.g. 30+

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn in 2.55 can't really force expire?

2003-06-01 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 06:54:37PM -0500, Stewart, John wrote: So this explains what happens if the DB gets too *small*. But what governs how *big* the database can get? Would it just be big enough to contain the last 500,000 seen tokens? Would this be a problem for performance/DB size?

Re: [SAtalk] site wide BAYES

2003-06-01 Thread guenther
On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 22:30, William Stearns wrote: Good evening, Guenther, Good morning, William, How can I do that? Did not find any note, how to define a site wide BAYES database. TIA http://www.stearns.org/doc/spamassassin-setup.current.html#autoreporting Now that page looks

[SAtalk] Spamd: Option -F 'removed'?

2003-06-01 Thread Murray Alexander
I've searched through archives and documentation, and I can't find any mention of this issue, so I hope nobody minds my asking here. I'm running Exim 3.36 and SpamAssassin 2.55 on a RedHat 8.0 machine. I've used 'dman's configuration for Exim 3.x (his page is widely referenced, but I

[SAtalk] Prepended SPAM: ?

2003-06-01 Thread Darryl Lee
So I installed 2.5.5 in my user environment, and it was working fine. Interestingly, the SA report did *not* have SPAM: prepended to every line. I didn't customize the report template at all. Shortly thereafter, my web/mailhost installed 2.5.4, including spamd. I decided to start using it,

Re: [SAtalk] Prepended SPAM: ?

2003-06-01 Thread Darryl Lee
Argh. Nevermind. I found the local CHANGE file for our systemwide install of SA, and it turns out our sysadmin made a customization: lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm - after 229 (among the other s/// transformations) # MPR 5/12/03 # add prefix to report s/^/SPAM: /gm;

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Reporting spam via Theo Van Dinter's Handlespam Problem.

2003-06-01 Thread Chris Evans
On Saturday, May 31, 2003, 9:05:35 PM Theo wrote: TVD That's going to be the envelope sender. handlespam just calls sendmail, TVD and unless told otherwise (via -f [EMAIL PROTECTED]), it'll figure out TVD the from using your username and domain. Or just change the line: my $fromAddr =