On 20/03/2009 1:55 AM, Mail.sqlite wrote:
> Roger:
> 4. Your comments sound to me that you are living in a 7bit ASCII country, do
> you?
>> Mail.sqlite wrote:
>>> - Please, let us try to bring down the discussion to the intended solution
- a simple way to define and use a "user defined" collat
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:31:00PM -0700, Noah Hart scratched on the wall:
> Rather my point is that it would be of benefit if SQLite would have
> some built in mechanism for a rule-based collation.
SQLite *does* have a mechanism for "rule-based" or any-other based
collations: User defined c
Nico wrote:
>> Number 1, the database is no longer portable. The only solution to
>> this is to include the functionality in the core.
>Yes but, there is no single Unicode collation. Collation is
>language-specific, even when using Unicode. Thus you're asking that
>SQLite3 have a plethora of bu
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:52:55AM -0700, Noah Hart wrote:
> I've been reading and thinking about this topic for a while, and would
> like to add my thoughts.
>
> I realize that we don't "vote" on features, but I feel that this type
> of idea has merit.
>
> It is true, that SQLite has user define
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Mail.sqlite wrote:
> 4. Your comments sound to me that you are living in a 7bit ASCII country, do
> you?
I am British but currently happen to live in the US, and have lived in
every hemisphere whether you cut the earth horizontally or vertically.
My
Igor Tandetnik writes:
>This is not quite true. You say custom functions are supported: then you can
>do ORDER BY sortkey(textField), >with a suitably defined sortkey() function
>(see strxfrm, LCMapString). You can't however build indexes using >such a
>function, something you can do with a col
Noah Hart wrote:
> Number 2, your platform may not support the sqlite3_create_collation
> interface. For example, Firefox now includes SQLite. Unfortunately,
> while Firefox supports user defined functions, their implementation
> does not support user defined collations.
>
> Someone commented that
I've been reading and thinking about this topic for a while, and would like to
add my thoughts.
I realize that we don't "vote" on features, but I feel that this type of idea
has merit.
It is true, that SQLite has user defined collations, and a extension could be
registered, but the problem wit
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> Von: Roger Binns
> An: General Discussion of SQLite Database
> Datum: 18-03-2009 19:40
> Betreff: Re: [sqlite] Proposal for SQLite and non pure ASCII letters
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> Mail.sqlite wrote:
> > - Please, let
Hello!
On Wednesday 18 March 2009 21:51:10 Roger Binns wrote:
> > Tcl, Python and other langs have different unicode implementations. The
> > realizations are more simple than ICU library but millions of
> > applications are using these. I'm will glad to see Tcl/Python/etc.
> > unicode implementat
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Alexey Pechnikov wrote:
> Tcl, Python and other langs have different unicode implementations. The
> realizations are more simple than ICU library but millions of applications
> are
> using these. I'm will glad to see Tcl/Python/etc. unicode implemen
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Mail.sqlite wrote:
> - Please, let us try to bring down the discussion to the intended solution -
> a simple way to define and use a "user defined" collating for 8 bit ASCII
> characters!
You don't need anyone's permission - go ahead and implement
Hello!
> From the German example, you can't even do that (name order is different
> than dictionary order). I think we are agreed that the default SQLite
> implementation gets ASCII right and makes no attempt to deal
> specifically with non-ASCII locales. The ICU extension gets all the
> locales
ms.
There sould be many users with 8bit ASCII locales requirements that would love
such an extension.
George
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Roger Binns
> An: General Discussion of SQLite Database
> Datum: 17-03-2009 23:55
> Betreff: Re: [sqlite] Proposal fo
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> I'm know. But you can implement locale-dependent version for single language
> only.
- From the German example, you can't even do that (name order is different
than dictionary order). I think we are agreed that the default SQLite
implementation g
Hello!
On Tuesday 17 March 2009 22:00:29 Roger Binns wrote:
> > You can find locale-independant Unicode extension here:
> > http://ioannis.mpsounds.net/blog/2007/12/19/sqlite-native-unicode-like-
> > support/
> >
> > This work fine for me and about 4x faster than ICU.
>
> That code should be tidie
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Alexey Pechnikov wrote:
> You can find locale-independant Unicode extension here:
> http://ioannis.mpsounds.net/blog/2007/12/19/sqlite-native-unicode-like-
> support/
>
> This work fine for me and about 4x faster than ICU.
That code should be tidied
Hello!
On Thursday 12 March 2009 10:09:28 Roger Binns wrote:
> > I was asking the group their opinion about the usefulness of such
> > feature.
>
> As described I think it is mostly useless. Sorting even just for West
> European languages is not trivial. For example some countries have a
> diffe
"Jean-Christophe Deschamps"
schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:7.0.1.0.2.20090312013713.0262b...@q-e-d.org...
> Perhaps the best way is practice: what's the way to find
> this guy named Éric or is it éric, or Eric, or eric?
> He lives in MÜNCHEN, München, MUNCHEN,
> Munchen or ... Munich.
IMO that's n
Jean-Christophe Deschamps wrote:
>> You are aware that "standard" SQLite is used in devices with a few
>> kilobytes of memory through workstations and servers with gigabytes of it!
>
> That's precisely why such approach is interesting!
I apologise for not making myself clear. Everything that is
On 12/03/2009, at 12:36 PM, Jean-Christophe Deschamps wrote:
>
> To answer another post by Ian, yes I've had a look at ICU. Of course
> ICU knows about its size, but what can they do about it, since their
> goal is to implement the most complete support possible?
Make parts of it be possible to
On 12/03/2009 1:36 PM, Jean-Christophe Deschamps wrote:
>
> BTW locales are far from perfection. For instance: you have to search
> text, say an address book in a cellphone, with FTS3 and you know the
> base may have words or names in a dozen european languages. How would
> you do? ICU? Huge
Roger Binns wrote:
> Jean-Christophe Deschamps wrote:
>
>> I'd like to have the group opinion about a feature I would find utterly
>> useful in _standard_ SQLite.
>>
>
> You are aware that "standard" SQLite is used in devices with a few
> kilobytes of memory through workstations and server
Roger,
>You are aware that "standard" SQLite is used in devices with a few
>kilobytes of memory through workstations and servers with gigabytes of it!
That's precisely why such approach is interesting!
>As far as I can tell you want some extra "standard" collation sequences
>and propose shor
On 12/03/2009, at 8:15 AM, Jean-Christophe Deschamps wrote:
>
> I feel the need for a different implementation of collating support.
> Not every user of SQLite needs full universal collating support à la
> ICU. It's huge and slows things down significantly.
This may be a dumb question, but why n
Jean-Christophe Deschamps wrote:
> I'd like to have the group opinion about a feature I would find utterly
> useful in _standard_ SQLite.
You are aware that "standard" SQLite is used in devices with a few
kilobytes of memory through workstations and servers with gigabytes of it!
As far as I can
Hello group,
I'd like to have the group opinion about a feature I would find utterly
useful in _standard_ SQLite.
Here's a rewrite of mails sent to hwaci about it, without success so far.
Note: I guess that non pure ASCII characters in the sample strings
below will translate to '?', but you c
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