Re: Different strokes - Aster survey, fuel choices, etc. etc.

2003-03-17 Thread Anthony Dixon
Hi Jeff, Very well said. You must be really wound up and on a roll. Where did the "well used coal fired K27 at $5,000 from a stranger" come from?. I understood it was brand new. At least the one I saw was. Great input. Regards, Tony D. At 08:29 PM 3/17/03 -0800, Jeffrey Williams

Different strokes - Aster survey, fuel choices, etc. etc.

2003-03-17 Thread Jeffrey Williams
Observing the great coal vs. alcohol vs. butane debate, then the great Aster/Accucraft/do-it-ourselves survey debate, it seems to me that folks are assuming that everyone enjoys the same thing about our hobby. My scan is that some people like tight control their locos (radio control), some people

Re: Online Survey

2003-03-17 Thread Anthony Dixon
Ditto to Gary. 100%. Sounds like someone dislikes Aster,s in particular and people who run ' em in general. Dem grapes sure are looking sour!. But the fried cock roaches taste ok. and really crunchy. Especially when washed down with a Watney's. Have not yet tried toasting them on a cocktail stick

Re: The Great Alcohol-Butane Debate

2003-03-17 Thread Larry Buerer
Hi Geoff you are right, The Merlin was running very well, you are a master of the Merlin Hunslet. Keep it well cared for, for me. Larry Geoff Spenceley wrote: You did well Larry!--But you forgot to mention how my BUTANE fired 1985 Merlin Hunslet (soon to be yours!*#!%) ran and ran and ran-It w

Re: alcohol & copper

2003-03-17 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Well written Mr Lunkenheimer, I'm glad you came out of the swamps--I thought the alligators had found you!! Embalmed? I thought I walked around looking embalmed in DH. But what do you know--I haven't seen you there for two years!!- I think I saw an emblamed cockroach on the footplate of a K27!

Re: Online Survey

2003-03-17 Thread Jeff Runge
Thank you Gary, well said.

Re: Online Survey

2003-03-17 Thread Gary
I for one am delighted that Aster managed to change from making gears for mechanical calculators to making very detailed steam locos. I expect if anyone of us wanted to make some locos we too would wish to know if we were going to go broke or make money on our investment of time and money. Good for

Re: Online Survey

2003-03-17 Thread Jeff Runge
Walt, you made it clear you don't like Aster engines, . Who else is doing MAINLINE US engines in kit form??? I'll wait for your list of manufactures Jeff in NC

Re: alcohol & copper

2003-03-17 Thread Walt Swartz
How many people have been "embalmed" at Diamondhead? Has anyone even found one dead gnat preserved in formaldehyde at a track? Keep your steam up! Mr. Lunkenheimer

Re: Online Survey

2003-03-17 Thread Walt Swartz
The only survey/poll/etc. that Aster is interested in answers the following: How many people are interested in putting up $x000,000.00 dollars in advance so that y number of locomotives of z type can be built and delivered freight ppd by buyer, who will also be the distributor, order taker, questi

RE: Online Survey

2003-03-17 Thread Chuck Walters
Dave, Pole or survey, I believe the results of such an instrument will show such things as; what are the popular engine choices, what fuel is preferred, what accesories are generally desired when buying an engine, etc. If I were a manufacturer, I absolutely would want to know what my customers wa

Re: Online Survey

2003-03-17 Thread Cgnr
In a message dated 3/17/03 11:30:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << (I just returned from India, rode the Darjeeling Himalaya railway into Darjeeling!) >> LET'S SEE SOME PICS THEN :-) Bob

Re: Online Survey

2003-03-17 Thread Terry Griner
And I call it a non-live steam thread. Could we get back to the burner debate, or the o-ring configuration, or even where people are going on vacation. (I just returned from India, rode the Darjeeling Himalaya railway into Darjeeling!) Terry Griner Columbus Ohio USA (Donning Flameproof suit) >>> [

Re: Online Survey

2003-03-17 Thread Gary
/dmc I am interested in your methodology for sampling hobbyists. Send me your ideas: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gary - Running trains over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor i have actually written up a method of creating

Re: Online Survey

2003-03-17 Thread Jeff Runge
Come on Dave, let us have a little fun! no one is paying money to do the "interview" and no one is paying for the information. I call it an interview of people involved in the hobby, not a survey or poll. Jeff in NC - Original Message - From: "Dave Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple

The Whole Article

2003-03-17 Thread Cgnr
Ok Gang, Here is the entire article. Charles, thanks for that explanation and your formulae reminded me why chemistry was not my strong suit. http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/BobStarr/Pictures/vapor%20burner1.jpg http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/BobStarr/Pictures/vapor%20burner2.jpg http://1stcla

Re: Online Survey

2003-03-17 Thread Dave Cole
chuck: while i commend your willingness to "go the extra mile" to garner hobbyists' viewpoints, what you are in fact building is a poll, not a survey. what you'll be able to say when you're done is that "73 percent of those who chose to respond to the poll said gauge one locomotives should ha

Re: The Great Alcohol-Butane Debate

2003-03-17 Thread Geoff Spenceley
You did well Larry!--But you forgot to mention how my BUTANE fired 1985 Merlin Hunslet (soon to be yours!*#!%) ran and ran and ran-It was bloody boring--made delightful however, by Richard Heisler's fabulous turn of the century railroad and the wonderful company,including you! I can now understa

Re: Online Survey

2003-03-17 Thread Jeff Runge
Hi Chuck, Just a few possible questions:1) age 2)country 3) Number of engines 4) years in hobby 5) income bracket.. if employed 6) do you have: a) narrow gauge b) mainline c) both 7) if you dare to ask.. what type of fuel do you prefer? - Original Message - From: "Chuck Walters" <[EMAIL P

Re: alcohol & copper

2003-03-17 Thread Geoff Spenceley
>At 10:52 AM 3/17/03 -0500, you wrote: >> H >> HC-OH + CuO ---> H C=O + Cu + HOH >> H H >>Methanol+Copper (II) Oxide-> Formaldehyde+Copper+Water >>Chuck > >Just as I suspected. :-) Right!--I learned this in kindergarten. :^r Geoff..

Re: alcohol vs butane vs white gas/Ken Shattock Burner

2003-03-17 Thread Arthur S. Cohen
Dear Chuck, You can impress the hell out of a guy. I owe you $10.00 for that formaldehyde course. My specialty is mechanics. Thank you for sending the information. This e-mail I will not erase. Arthur-Mexico City > >

alcohol & copper

2003-03-17 Thread Harry Wade
At 10:52 AM 3/17/03 -0500, you wrote: > H > H C-OH + CuO ---> H C=O + Cu + HOH > H H >Methanol+Copper (II) Oxide-> Formaldehyde+Copper+Water >Chuck Just as I suspected. :-)

RE: alcohol vs butane vs white gas/Ken Shattock Burner

2003-03-17 Thread Chuck Walters
Oxidation of primary alcohols produces aldehydes. Methyl alcohol will react with hot copper(II) oxide to form formaldehyde. This reaction is especially interesting because of the changes that can be observed in the copper(II) oxide. Specifically the copper(II) oxide is converted to metallic copp

Re: alcohol vs butane vs white gas/Ken Shattock Burner

2003-03-17 Thread Harry Wade
At 02:32 AM 3/17/03 EST, you wrote: >Alcohol fired flames applied to copper produces a formaldehyde gas To the List Chemists, How does this happen? It seems to me that some copper would have to be consumed for this to occur, but them I'm no chemist. And maybe this explains why certain alcoho

Online Survey

2003-03-17 Thread Chuck Walters
I have been following the threads concerning the surveys that have taken place at various times within the last year. I took part in the Aster survey and found it to be (of course) geared toward Aster, which is okay as it was their survey. However, I don't believe a survey has been conduc

Re: alcohol vs butane vs white gas

2003-03-17 Thread TrotFox Greyfoot
I asked about an oil burner for gauge 1 on one of the large'er' scale steam lists and was told that the flame path is too long. I guess it's not possible to get the fuel up to temp fast enough that it will all burn in the firebox? Flames going into the tubes is a no-no due to the soot buildup it

Re: alcohol vs butane vs white gas/Ken Shattock Burner

2003-03-17 Thread Harry Wade
At 02:32 AM 3/17/03 EST, you wrote: >"Its pungent odor will be objectionable if operated in an >unventilated room. but NO Live Steam equipment should be fired in a closed >area without adequate ventilation first provided. Editor" >Bob List, This disclaimer was probably added because the el

Re: alcohol vs butane vs white gas/Ken Shattock Burner

2003-03-17 Thread Jeff Runge
Thanks Bob, that looks like a good project. Jeff in NC

Re: Re: Re: Re: Surveys & Fuel

2003-03-17 Thread Bruce Gathman
Peter, I'd say is was the alcohol fumes or just maybe the other kind of alcohol that isn't taken in by breathing. The 16mm table inside the medium track was always interesting to look at first thing in the morning. It was an indication as to what was currently available locally or whether or n