Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?

2003-07-10 Thread tom leaton
Brian== Lovely model engine, there. As to your queries: Baldwin used crimson lake for a cab color. All the D&RG C-16 photos I have seen have sand pipes. If it looks like RGS No. 9 then that is good as both were Baldwin C-16s. It is perfectly stock, as far as I can see, and a good mod

Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?

2003-07-10 Thread Kevin Strong
Is that Vance Bass saying "mess with it only if you must?" You're not turning into a collector, are you??? (Must be the heat...) Certainly, there is an implied appreciation of history, but if it's not what you want, change it. I've got two locomotives that if left untouched would have "collecto

Re: NOT Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Steve Shyvers
Richard, I had a similar experience with Sta-Silv and brass. I had just bought the Sta-Silv and thought I'd get fancy and use it to do a soft soldering job (2% silver). I was soldering up a small tank, and as I proceeded to solder the sheet brass started to disappear. I wound up with an oval h

Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?

2003-07-10 Thread Vance Bass
Brian, What you have is the original, as-built version of the C-16, characterized by the fluted domes, diamond stack, drop-shadow lettering on the tender, long pilot, etc. It looks dead stock to me. Mess with it only if you must. There's a photo of mine, for comparison, on my web site's main

Re: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Michael Martin
Yes, I went through three oxygen cylinders at about $8 each (and that was about 7 or 8 years ago) when silver soldering a 1 5/8" dia. x 6" long copper boiler with a 7/8" dia. steam dome. I managed to get the job done, albeit somewhat sloppy, i.e. way too much alloy. I also melted the corner of th

Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?

2003-07-10 Thread Brian Scott
Hello fellow listers. I've been lurking on this group for about a year now and have learned many things. Mostly that there's a lot to learn. I'm exiting lurk mode with an announcement and a question. Firstly, the Copperhead & Prickly Pear RR is a reality. (It was going to be the Copper Ridge & Pri

Re: NOT Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Harry Wade
At 05:03 PM 7/10/03 -0700, you wrote: >I just soldered a new bushing into a fuel tank for a venting filler >I think the flux ATE the brass bushing Richard, Not knowing any more than I do about the conditions/materials I'd say the bushing got too hot. The line between silver solder flow temp

Re: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Harry Wade
At 04:33 PM 7/10/03 -0700, you wrote: >Thanks, Harry. I bow to your superior wisdom and knowledge, >Steve Well, all I'll admit to is having read or been told a bit more about other's experiences than the average bear, being able to remember and regurgitate it on demand, and then having tried

Re: NOT Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Richard Finlayson
I just soldered a new bushing into a fuel tank for a venting filler valve. I tossed all my old flux when I had to pack up my tools a few years ago. I remembered that Borax could be used for flux. Mixed some up. Cleaned all parts, fluxed, set bits of solder around... torched it up. I think the

Re: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Steve Shyvers
Thanks, Harry. I bow to your superior wisdom and knowledge, and, most of all, to your willingness to share it. Regards, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:43 PM 7/10/03 -0700, you wrote: Harry, would it be more correct to say that you were trying to break the surface tension of the mol

Re: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Harry Wade
At 03:43 PM 7/10/03 -0700, you wrote: >Harry, would it be more correct to say that you were trying to break the surface tension of the molten solder blob in order to make it run along the joint? Theoretically solders won't flow, or rather wet, because the flux has broken down or was inadequat

Re: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Steve Shyvers
Royce and Harry, Thanks for the explanation about "scratch". Harry, would it be more correct to say that you were trying to break the surface tension of the molten solder blob in order to make it run along the joint? I understand Royce's comment about the process failing if you have to scratch

RE: Running our way

2003-07-10 Thread Dave Cole
chad: yes, i've participated in some of jack verducci's all-afternoon operating sessions and they definitely require goodall valves and water pumps (jack has a pressurized tank at his roundhouse in addition to various water bottles). a little too stressful for me (hey, i'm in this hobby to rel

RE: Running our way

2003-07-10 Thread Chad
Harry, No these guys are great just like most people in the hobby. I've tried it a couple of times and my engines usually run out of steam in the middle of a run so it clogs up the track. The layout that we have access to is large and the track often disappears behind things like the garage and hou

Re: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Harry Wade
At 09:01 AM 7/10/03 -0700, you wrote: >Well, maybe that's not the correct term, It absolutely is the correct term, in fact there is such an animal as a "scratch rod" for soft soldering. This is nothing more than a piece of steel rod with a crook and a pointy end on it. It's used to scratch th

Re: Silver soldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Harry Wade
At 09:05 AM 7/10/03 -0700, you wrote: >Harry, take note of the above. THAT's the $10-20 cost I was talking about. OK, flea market . . not new. Minor difference in prices. :-) Regards, Harry

RE: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Terry Griner
Steve, I had one of those when I worked as a maintenance man for a popular Pizza restaurant chain (rhymes with mutt). The oxygen seamed to run out really fast. If you could get a small refillable oxygen bottle to attach instead of the disposable one it might be worth it. Just my 2 cents worth.

Re: Silver soldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Royce Woodbury
Terry Griner wrote: Now I have a Presto-lite Air Acetylene torch that works for all my silver soldering needs. I got it at a flea market for 20.00 USD and here in Columbus Ohio, I got a tank swap out for around 35.00 USD. Harry, take note of the above. THAT's the $10-20 cost I was talking ab

Re: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Royce Woodbury
Steve Shyvers wrote: Royce, What is the operation that you refer to as "scratch"? Well, maybe that's not the correct term, but it would refer to "encouraging" the silver solder to flow where it doesn't seem inclined to go by means of a wire used to "scratch" or push the solder around. PS

Re: Silver soldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Terry Griner
Robb, I tried once to use Mapp gas to silver solder a boiler. I almost got the right temp. but not quite. When I added a propane torch heating the boiler body, then the solder flowed under the Mapp gas torch. I just lit the Propane torch, pointed it at the boiler tube and blocked it into place

Re: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Steve Shyvers
Royce, What is the operation that you refer to as "scratch"? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't need to "scratch". In my experience, if you've reached the "scratch" point, the process has failed. Steve

RE: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Ciambrone, Steve @ OS
Has anyone tried the Bernzomatic Mapp/oxegen torch it retails for 50 USD with disposable cylinders. For the amount of silversolderng I do in a year even if I bought a couple of cylinders a year it would still be cost effective. I know the cost of the gas would be higher in the little cylinders bu

Re: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Tag Gorton
On 10/7/03 8:05 am, "Mike Chaney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I can explain volts / amps. >> Volts = how fast the river is flowing >> Amps = how wide it is > > I used to teach electronics to adults using the "water analogy" to explain the > relationship between voltage, current, resistance e

Re: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Royce Woodbury
Hi Robb. Can an Oxy/acetylene torch be used to make a 2 1/2" boiler? From what I have read, oxy/acetylene is too much heat for our purposes unless you are welding. I see in my local paper a fellow has a used one for sale tomorrow at his garage sale. And I think that the turbo torch (acetylen

Re: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread steve boylan
Robb wrote: > I can explain volts / amps. > Volts = how fast the river is flowing > Amps = how wide it is But ... but ... isn't volts the analogue of head, and amps the analogue of flow rate? (volume per unit time?) I'm tempted to delve deeper (how fast <=> propogation speed, how wide <=> diame

Re: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

2003-07-10 Thread Mike Chaney
> I can explain volts / amps. > Volts = how fast the river is flowing > Amps = how wide it is I used to teach electronics to adults using the "water analogy" to explain the relationship between voltage, current, resistance etc.. On one occasion, having spent about twenty minutes going through my