Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-17 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Tony, It's a done deal! bring it to Sacramento in July--and the steamup is on-you can drive it! I'll report on the Dubro to the list. Ran my Aster BR Pannier today in the No Cal drizzle--ran so well. My friend brought his S/B F/L vertical boiler logging loco and his 0-4-0 S/.B F/L saddle ta

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-17 Thread Charles Brumbelow
Another way to bend tubing, I'm told, is to fill it with "CerroBend"(sp?) or one of the other low melting point alloys. Once the bend is complete, boiling watter will clean out the alloy. Charles

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-16 Thread Anthony Dixon
Hi Geoff, If you really want a Dubro Tube bender, I will track one down for you in the Bay Area and send you one. For Free. One minor condition;- A steamup on your 3.5" Britannia when we travel to your area during our RV trips. Tony D. At 07:58 PM 3/16/01 -0800, Geoff Spence

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-16 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Yes Tony et al, On tubing bending and springs, I also like Walt's sand idea which I'm going to try next time. I'll have to look for those Dubro tube benders too, but this area doesn't have a hobby shop of any consequence AT ALL. Guy Fawkes and Catherine wheels"! Ah nostalgia! Rule Britannia

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-16 Thread Jonathan Bloom
Also, Bob has 'em at Sulpher Springs. Got mine there. - Original Message - From: "VR Bass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 10:16 PM Subject: Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHE

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-15 Thread VR Bass
You can get the spring type tubing benders from MicroMark. They're less than $10 for a set of four. regards, -vance- Vance Bass Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-15 Thread Anthony Dixon
Hi Geoff, I have also seen the flaired springs, but not in small gauge sizes. So I use small parrallel springs. They are ok for the small amount of bending I need to do. The Dubro tube bender from airplane or boat model shops looks good also. Am I the only other person who understood

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-15 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Brilliant Walt--Thanks!~ Just hope I can remember! Geoffr Hi, >possible #5: If the diameter is large enough, fill the tube with dry fine >sand. Plug both ends so the sand does not run out. Works like magic. I have >used this to evenly bend 1"x2"x1/8" wall aluminum tube into a U shape just >wide

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-15 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Yes Tony, I even have a set of springs designed for tube bending-The springs are flared at the end for easy insertion of the tubing. Unfortunately, I have had them a long time and don't recall where I got them. However they must be available somewhere! Geoff. Hi Vance, > Reference tube

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-15 Thread SaltyChief
In a message dated 01-03-15 07:37:52 EST, you write: << How does one bend Stainless (or any other type) tubing without crimping it? >> I purchased some 1/8 od stainless from a local supplier (Portland OR) that I bent,cold, around a 1/2" dowel pin using a bender that I fabricated. I m

RE: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-15 Thread Ciambrone, Steve @ OS
: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER? A tool I found very helpful in bending copper tubing is a spring device available through most hardware stores. The device is sized for the od of the tubing you want to bend. In operation you feed the tube through the spring and

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-15 Thread Doug
AIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:20 AM Subject: Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER? > Hi, > possible #5: If the diameter is large enough, fill the tube with dry fine > sand. Plug both ends so the s

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-15 Thread WaltSwartz
There is a company in Bellefont, PA that makes alloys that melt as low as 195 degrees F. The material is called Cerabend Alloy, or maybe Serabend. I've used it and it is great, but sand is cheaper. Walt

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-15 Thread WaltSwartz
Hi, possible #5: If the diameter is large enough, fill the tube with dry fine sand. Plug both ends so the sand does not run out. Works like magic. I have used this to evenly bend 1"x2"x1/8" wall aluminum tube into a U shape just wide enough to be a tunnel portal frame. Walt

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-15 Thread Terry Griner
> How does one bend Stainless (or any other type) tubing without crimping it? I would pour/draw some woods metal into the pipe before bending. The woods metal will help to keep the diameter, and melts around 300 deg F, so it will come out easily with a propane torch. I've seen woods metal av

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-14 Thread Anthony Dixon
Hi Vance, Reference tube bending without kinks. 1. For cold bending small bore copper brass or stainless tube, I pass the tube through a length of tightly wound coil spring. Then bend tube over a mandrel or by hand. The coils prevent the tube diameter distorti

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-14 Thread VR Bass
> Would the K&S stainless tubing gain any workability by heating it like we > sometimes do to copper to anneal it? I believe this only works on copper (and its compounds) and aluminum. Iron and steel can only be annealed by heating really hot and then cooling very, very slowly. This requir

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-14 Thread Clark Lord
"M. Paterson" wrote: > > A tool I found very helpful in bending copper tubing > is a spring device available through most hardware > stores. The device is sized for the od of the tubing > you want to bend. In operation you feed the tube > through the spring and then bend the spring with > tubing

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-14 Thread M. Paterson
A tool I found very helpful in bending copper tubing is a spring device available through most hardware stores. The device is sized for the od of the tubing you want to bend. In operation you feed the tube through the spring and then bend the spring with tubing captured inside around a form. This

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-14 Thread Trent Dowler
Vance and everyone, Ok, this is one of those things that I should know, but don't. Would the K&S stainless tubing gain any workability by heating it like we sometimes do to copper to anneal it? I sincerely hope that's not a stupid question. Later, Trent (Stop laughing.) VR Bass wrote: >

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-14 Thread Clark Lord
VR Bass wrote: > > How does one bend Stainless (or any other type) tubing without crimping it? > > The easiest way is probably to find a really big bolt, one with a pitch diameter > the same as your intended coil. Use the threads to guide the bend and to > support the sides without putting pres

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-14 Thread VR Bass
> Do you cut the steam line on the outflow side of the lubricator, then bend > it around towards the backhead and down the flue? I take it that this does > not interfere with removing the burner for cleaning? That's one way of doing it. I would not cut the line, but rather make an insert, wit

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-14 Thread VR Bass
I think Clark Lord posted some photos of Kevin O'Connor's superheater in place. No plans. I don't think you really need plans, though, and the fact that there are three or four substantially different superheater types out there in Rubies seems to confirm this. All you need is a way to route

Re: URL for Ruby SUPERHEATER?

2001-03-14 Thread M. Paterson
Check Steam in the Garden. The mag carried an article mid last year on Ruby mods. As for access, contact Sulphur Springs as Bob was considering carrying a few. Sulphur Springs has been a good source of add on or after-market parts for several different engines. mp --- Chris wolcott <[EMAIL PROTE