Re: [Standards] Council Minutes 2020-05-13

2020-05-19 Thread Daniel Gultsch
> special meaning defined herein if the corresponding "form"-type form had the > field "hidden"' - but won't block based on that. > > Jonas: +1 > Zash: [on-list] > Daniel: [on-list] > Georg: +1 (though not sure it addresses Dave's remark abou

Re: [Standards] Council Minutes 2020-05-06

2020-05-19 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Am Di., 12. Mai 2020 um 19:04 Uhr schrieb Tedd Sterr : > > https://logs.xmpp.org/council/2020-05-06?p=h#2020-05-06-203d250e68ba702f > > 1) Roll Call > Present: Jonas, Zash, Daniel, Georg > Apologies: Dave > > 2) Agenda Bashing > Nothing to add/modify. > > 3)

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Channel Binding Pseudomechanisms

2020-05-19 Thread Daniel Gultsch
#x27; is SCRAM specific, because its specification then surely > would declare the supported SASL mechanisms. This syntax sounds very reasonable to me. cheers Daniel ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___

Re: [Standards] Evaluating gitlab.com as new location for XEP Editor repositories (xeps+registar)

2020-06-16 Thread Daniel Gultsch
+1 for a full migration to Gitlab. No mirroring to Github. No nonsense. Anything that will help our editors. ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org __

[Standards] XEP-0167: Jingle RTP Sessions - payload type parameters w/o value?

2020-06-17 Thread Daniel Gultsch
say anything on whether either or both value and name can be omitted. Can someone more familiar with what this actually maps to clarify? Note that the implementations sending this are parsing this from firefoxes SDP. cheers Daniel ___ Standards mailing l

Re: [Standards] XEP-0167: Jingle RTP Sessions - payload type parameters w/o value?

2020-06-17 Thread Daniel Gultsch
There is a 2011 thread on the same topic: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/jingle/2011-March/001438.html that as far as I can tell (my personal archives don’t go back that far) never went anywhere. Am Mi., 17. Juni 2020 um 14:17 Uhr schrieb Daniel Gultsch : > > Hi, > > I've

Re: [Standards] Council Minutes 2020-06-10

2020-06-24 Thread Daniel Gultsch
> 4b) PR #598 (XEP-0050: Try to clarify usage of 'execute') - > https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/598 > Jonas, superpowered editor extraordinaire, added wording to the PR, > specifically, a note discouraging use of the execute action > Dave thinks this is deep into 'least harm' territory, and will

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0338 (Jingle Grouping Framework)

2020-06-29 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Am Di., 16. Juni 2020 um 16:44 Uhr schrieb XEP Editor Pipeline : > XEP-0338. > 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol > stack or to clarify an existing protocol? Yes > 2. Does the specification solve the problem stated in the introduction > and requirements? Yes > >

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0440 (SASL Channel-Binding Type Capability)

2020-07-16 Thread Daniel Gultsch
1.2 this is probably tls-unique and for TLS1.3 this is tls-exporter. If you can’t make sure that you support that, don’t implement it. (Which is probably something the XEP should be explicit about in case we come to a consensus here.) cheers Daniel ___

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0440 (SASL Channel-Binding Type Capability)

2020-07-16 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Am Do., 16. Juli 2020 um 10:13 Uhr schrieb Florian Schmaus : > If you send 'y', which implies that you, the client, did not select a > -PLUS mechanism for authentication, while the server announces at least > one SCRAM-*-PLUS mechanism, then the server may suspect a MitM attack > and terminates th

Re: [Standards] Council Minutes 2020-07-29

2020-07-31 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Am Fr., 31. Juli 2020 um 21:43 Uhr schrieb Tedd Sterr : > 1) Roll Call > Present: Georg, Jonas, Zash, Dave > Absent: Daniel Sorry. I fell asleep before our meeting. Time is still weird. > 3) Editor's Update > Congratulations to MattJ for getting version 0.7.0 of XEP-0313

Re: [Standards] XEP0384 OMEMO pubsub#publish-options clarification

2020-08-08 Thread Daniel Gultsch
s means the publish option doesn’t need to be registered. Just the node configuration field. cheers Daniel ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___

Re: [Standards] XEP0384 OMEMO pubsub#publish-options clarification

2020-08-08 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Am Sa., 8. Aug. 2020 um 07:13 Uhr schrieb Daniel Gultsch : > > Am Sa., 8. Aug. 2020 um 07:07 Uhr schrieb Ruslan N. Marchenko > : > > > > Hi Standards, > > > > I'm trying to extend PEP server implementation to support OMEMO and > > stumbled upon fol

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0411 (Bookmarks Conversion)

2020-09-30 Thread Daniel Gultsch
n a not too distant future in favor of Bookmarks 2.0 Otherwise I'd probably retract this as this author. cheers Daniel ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___

Re: [Standards] XEP-0060: max #max_items

2020-09-30 Thread Daniel Gultsch
m OK with being overruled by someone who prefers to stick it into 0122. cheers Daniel Am Mi., 16. Sept. 2020 um 22:51 Uhr schrieb Maxime Buquet : > > Hi Standards, > > > A year ago during a sprint we worked on implementing bookmarks2 and > submitted a few changes to the spec at

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0443 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2021)

2020-10-22 Thread Daniel Gultsch
down anyway please consider using a standardized syntax" cheers Daniel ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___

Re: [Standards] Fixing XEP-0066 (Out of Band Data)

2020-10-23 Thread Daniel Gultsch
happily accept messages with an x-oob URL and *no* body. What it (currently) won’t accept is 'mixed' content with body != x-oob. As far as discovery is concerned there is not just "the MUC issue" but also offline clients and

Re: [Standards] Council Minutes 2020-11-04

2020-11-18 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Am Mi., 11. Nov. 2020 um 02:46 Uhr schrieb Tedd Sterr : > > https://logs.xmpp.org/council/2020-11-04?p=h#2020-11-04-51d2be3786d1879f > > 1) Roll Call > Present: Jonas, Dave, Daniel, Zash, Georg > > 2) Agenda Bashing > Georg wanted to add his XEP-0401 (Easy User Onboa

Re: [Standards] Council Minutes 2020-11-11

2020-11-24 Thread Daniel Gultsch
> 4b) PR #1001 (XEP-0393: clarify rules for span directives) - > https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1001 > See [2] for relevant war of semantics and pedantry discussion. > Daniel: [on-list] +1 ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mai

Re: [Standards] Council Minutes 2021-01-13

2021-01-20 Thread Daniel Gultsch
t; Jonas checks whether Link Mauve has the IPR agreement from Daniel to resubmit > his work under a different track… > Daniel vaguely remembers his offer to move this to a different track was > rejected, so accepting now would be overruling a previous Council decision. > Jonas rummages th

[Standards] XMPP for true P2P (a.k.a. P2P-SIP, RELOAD, Jami)

2021-01-31 Thread Daniel Pocock
-truly-distributed/ Regards, Daniel ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___

Re: [Standards] Council Minutes 2021-01-20

2021-02-02 Thread Daniel Gultsch
> 4) Proposed XMPP Extension: Service Outage Status - > https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/service-outage-status.html > Georg: +1 > Jonas: +1 (will send a few notes to the list [1]) > Daniel: [on-list] > Dave: [on-list] >

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Implicit XMPP WebSocket Endpoints

2021-02-02 Thread Daniel Gultsch
only use those and soon the implicit ones have to be set up be server. (Like try running an XMPP not on domain:5222 and connections will fail) cheers Daniel ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___

Re: [Standards] XMPP for true P2P (a.k.a. P2P-SIP, RELOAD, Jami)

2021-02-06 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 31/01/2021 12:08, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Hi all, > > Is there any ongoing work in true P2P, serverless XMPP similar to P2P-SIP > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer_SIP > > > or the Jami application: > > https://jami.net/ > > &g

Re: [Standards] XMPP for true P2P (a.k.a. P2P-SIP, RELOAD, Jami)

2021-02-06 Thread Daniel Pocock
ersally true. It depends on the requirements of each user A user's requirements may change over time, they might not see it coming either. Imagine a poster promoting this concept. A big headline, "SERVERLESS" and a picture of the former US president. Regards, Daniel __

Re: [Standards] XMPP for true P2P (a.k.a. P2P-SIP, RELOAD, Jami)

2021-02-12 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 07/02/2021 14:24, Andrew Nenakhov wrote: > вс, 7 февр. 2021 г. в 12:45, Daniel Pocock : > >> Imagine a poster promoting this concept. A big headline, "SERVERLESS" >> and a picture of the former US president. > > Former US president just needs his own serve

Re: [Standards] Slummit 2021 - Tales

2021-02-20 Thread Daniel Gultsch
oesn’t have to worry about it.) Just thought it was interesting that these things keep popping up. As much as we love XMPP and XML there is apparently a demand for something "simpler". cheers Daniel ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___

Re: [Standards] XEP-0294: update the reference from RFC 5285 to RFC 8285 and add a mapping for a=extmap-allow-mixed

2021-03-16 Thread Daniel Gultsch
should not infer a general rule from this some additions might make a namespace bump necessary. (Alternatively a new, optional element, can be moved into it's own namespace.) cheers Daniel ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.o

[Standards] XEP-0313 adding archive id to live incoming messages

2015-01-21 Thread Daniel Gultsch
somehow got under the impression that earlier versions of the MAM XEP already did that but failed to find anything in the XEP archive about that. If that has been the case is there a reason that feature has been removed? cheers Daniel

Re: [Standards] XEP-0313 adding archive id to live incoming messages

2015-01-22 Thread Daniel Gultsch
plicate messages I'm seeing. Right now I'm trying to fake dedup by matching the body and the message id but that of course fails when my contacts clients don't set a message id. cheers Daniel

Re: [Standards] XEP-0313 adding archive id to live incoming messages

2015-01-22 Thread Daniel Gultsch
2015-01-22 1:53 GMT+01:00 Holger Weiß : > * Daniel Gultsch [2015-01-22 01:11]: > > right now a client when querying the MAM archive has to relay upon the > fact > > that server time and client time are the same (which they never are) or > > that all received messages

Re: [Standards] Multi-client operation and read-until-X markers

2015-05-05 Thread Daniel Gultsch
to one and a carbon of it to the > other (and how the priority/routing is supposed to be handled in that > case). > Defenitly not both like it is done currently. (Or has been done?) cheers Daniel

Re: [Standards] Multi-client operation and read-until-X markers

2015-05-06 Thread Daniel Gultsch
2015-05-06 16:12 GMT+02:00 Holger Weiß : > * Daniel Gultsch [2015-05-05 17:13]: > > 2015-05-05 16:30 GMT+02:00 Georg Lukas : > > > One possible workaround would be to mark all MUC PMs, like it is done > by > > > prosody: http://hg.prosody.im/trunk/rev/09151d26560a

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Unique and stable message IDs

2015-06-05 Thread Daniel Gultsch
. And I'm currently not really seeing the point of a client adding an id since the client can already set the stanza id. With an the by attribute we don't have to decide on whether or not there is a use case for the client-id. cheers Daniel

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Unique and stable message IDs

2015-06-05 Thread Daniel Gultsch
2015-06-05 13:01 GMT+02:00 Daniel Gultsch : > > And I'm currently not really seeing the point of a client adding an id > since the client can already set the stanza id. With an the by attribute we > don't have to decide on whether or not there is a use case for the > c

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Unique and stable message IDs

2015-06-07 Thread Daniel Gultsch
server (current XEP says optionally) cheers Daniel P.S.: I don't have a strong opinion on the MAM id generation schema (And this doesn't belong to the message-id-discussion but should be in a separate MAM discussion since it has nothing to do with the actual message-id XEP besides the

Re: [Standards] XEP-0198 minor enhancement

2015-06-08 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Great idea. And I cant imagine a client breaking because of an additional attribute. A version bump for this tiny (but very useful feature) will do more harm than good. - Daniel

[Standards] Dealing with offline messages in times of MAM

2015-06-09 Thread Daniel Gultsch
failed due to a SM time out. cheers Daniel

Re: [Standards] XEP-0234 Jingle File Transfer 0.16

2015-06-20 Thread Daniel Gultsch
out of curiosity does this mean you are working on implementing jingle file transfer 0.16 in gajim? 2015-06-20 14:08 GMT+02:00 Yann Leboulanger : > Hi all, > > I just read the version 0.16 of Jingle File Transfer XEP, and saw that > you removed the flow. > Just to mention that it is used in Gaji

Re: [Standards] XEP-0234 Jingle File Transfer 0.16

2015-06-20 Thread Daniel Gultsch
owledge - are the only clients supporting Jingle FT) cheers Daniel

Re: [Standards] MUC2

2015-06-25 Thread Daniel Gultsch
gt; non-anonymous in MUC2, to solve some of the addressing messes we’ve found > ourselves in. > Yes. Plus that gives us the ability to not have private messages which are always a mess (carbons) - not sure if this is what you meant by addressing messes. And we can do proper PEP for avatars and other stuff. cheers Daniel

[Standards] Request HTTP upload slots over XMPP

2015-06-28 Thread Daniel Gultsch
https://github.com/siacs/HttpUploadComponent is a sample python implementation of such a component. And here is a branch for Conversations that can talk to that component. https://github.com/siacs/Conversations/tree/feature/http_upload cheers Daniel

Re: [Standards] Request HTTP upload slots over XMPP

2015-06-28 Thread Daniel Gultsch
ould be up to the user (client) to decide whether to use OBB or just sending the plain URL as text. Just providing the user with a possiblity to upload files and get a public HTTP address for them will also allow the usage in something like PEP avatars (they can contain HTTP URLs as source) cheers Daniel

Re: [Standards] Request HTTP upload slots over XMPP

2015-06-28 Thread Daniel Gultsch
we provide those people with a very small XEP that is easily implemented and can serve as a temporary solution until the perfect solution is ready. - Daniel

Re: [Standards] File Transfer Roadmap

2015-07-27 Thread Daniel Gultsch
encryption. cheers Daniel 2015-07-27 14:25 GMT+02:00 Kim Alvefur : > mån jul 27 00:33:40 2015 GMT+0200 skrev Sam Whited: > > Thoughts? > > Sounds good. > > -- > Zash

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: HTTP File Upload

2015-07-29 Thread Daniel Gultsch
hat library developer are also lazy... Don't get me wrong. There is definitely a place for Jingle and Jingle FT. I don't want to deprecate Jingle at all. But Jingle is not always the right tool for the job. cheers Daniel

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: HTTP File Upload

2015-07-30 Thread Daniel Gultsch
(And once you got a proper jingle stack for voice. doing jingle ft is not a big step) One thing that would benefit Jingle FT much more than 'preventing' this XEP from getting accepted is to finally deprecate SI file transfer. (See the parallel thread started by Sam) cheers Daniel

Re: [Standards] XEP-0313 MAM implementation for MUC

2015-07-31 Thread Daniel Gultsch
eral / easier approach to send the real jid if the muc was non-anonymous back then and still is. (That prevents admins from discovering the real jid retrospectively but thats something we will have to live with I guess) As for namespaces I would probably reuse XEP-0033: Advanced stanza addressin

Re: [Standards] XEP-0313 MAM implementation for MUC

2015-07-31 Thread Daniel Gultsch
2015-07-31 18:31 GMT+02:00 Daniel Gultsch : > As for namespaces I would probably reuse XEP-0033: Advanced stanza > addressing http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0033.html > oh ok forget about this part. It doesn't have a from type

[Standards] Add Message Hint (XEP-0334) to implicitly ask server to store messages

2015-08-26 Thread Daniel Gultsch
st to previously discussed rules for MAM storage (save everything type="chat" and everything type="normal" with a body) this probably would not spam the archive as only new clients that actually speak MAM/OMEMO willl add that hint. cheers Daniel

Re: [Standards] "I've read up to here" stanza?

2015-08-27 Thread Daniel Gultsch
position) but it works with Carbons and I don't see a reason why this should not be used for this. Oh and please let us not discuss about the general usefulness of such read markers. I know some people hate them. cheers Daniel 2015-08-27 10:26 GMT+02:00 Simon Tennant : > In yesterday'

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0364 (Current Off-the-Record Messaging Usage)

2015-09-09 Thread Daniel Gultsch
well instance tags only help the receiving client to discard garbage. if you send your messages to a full jid you avoid unnecessary traffic. On Sep 9, 2015 16:16, "Sam Whited" wrote: > Thanks Thijs, I was forgetting about instance tags entirely. Will fix. > > —Sam > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:20

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0364 (Current Off-the-Record Messaging Usage)

2015-09-09 Thread Daniel Gultsch
and more importantly makes the behavior (who will actually receive the message) much more predictable On Sep 9, 2015 20:32, "Daniel Gultsch" wrote: > well instance tags only help the receiving client to discard garbage. if > you send your messages to a full jid you avoid unn

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0363 (HTTP File Upload)

2015-09-17 Thread Daniel Gultsch
ded inband anyway. (right in the message stanza (you have to keep them smaller than lets say 5KiB but for thumbnails thats probably manageable) cheers Daniel 2015-09-03 13:11 GMT+02:00 Evgeny Khramtsov : > Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:10:18 + (UTC) > XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > > > V

Re: [Standards] [Summit] [xmpp] Fwd: [jdev] [CFP] FOSDEM 2016, RTC devroom, speakers, volunteers neeeded

2015-11-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
d a little bit of time working for them every day training their spam filter: http://danielpocock.com/unpaid-work-training-googles-spam-filters Regards, Daniel

Re: [Standards] [xmpp] [Summit] Fwd: [jdev] [CFP] FOSDEM 2016, RTC devroom, speakers, volunteers neeeded

2015-11-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 21/11/15 07:02, Arc Riley wrote: > I'm on email, it did not go to spam. Can anybody else comment on whether they got it or not? Does anybody who did or did not receive it see any headers indicating how Google's spam filters are classifying the message? I'm hearing far too many reports of thes

[Standards] [CFP] reminder! FOSDEM RTC dev-room talks: deadline Friday

2015-11-25 Thread Daniel Pocock
Reminder: speaker's deadline this Friday, 27 November at 23:59 UTC We have already received several really exciting talk proposals but there is still time for people to propose talks or encourage friends or colleagues to speak. Many other dev-rooms also have a deadline in the next few days and i

Re: [Standards] [Summit] XMPP Summit 19 / FOSDEM

2016-01-04 Thread Daniel Pocock
FOSDEM, > so that's 28 and 29 January. Please sign up as soon as possible on the > dedicated wiki page, so we know who's attending: > > http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summit_19 > > As mentioned before, we do have a Realtime Developers Room at FOSDEM, as > a joint effort

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0313 (Message Archive Management)

2016-01-20 Thread Daniel Gultsch
injected that tag and a general rule to remove all elements that have the attribute by with my entity - or something. cheers Daniel 2016-01-20 18:27 GMT+01:00 XMPP Extensions Editor : > Version 0.5 of XEP-0313 (Message Archive Management) has been released. > > Abstract: This document defin

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0313 (Message Archive Management)

2016-01-20 Thread Daniel Gultsch
using an un-namespaced from or by attribute can lead to some weird consequences. What ever we agree on we should come up with a solution rather sooner than later. Because having the server inject information like the original sender in this case or stanza-ids in another is certain

Re: [Standards] XEP-0363 and Message MIME content type

2016-01-29 Thread Daniel Gultsch
here as well. For people how haven't been at the summit this reference xep will probably look a bit like how twitter is referencing links or images in their api. I don't have a link right now but maybe someone else can provide this. Cheers Daniel _

Re: [Standards] XEP-0198 minor enhancement

2016-02-03 Thread Daniel Gultsch
I created a PR for this. People are running into issues with duplicate messages from time to time. (Client resends them because it never got the ACK.) 2015-06-08 18:10 GMT+02:00 Sam Whited : > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 2:02 AM, Daniel Gultsch wrote: > > Great idea. And I cant imagine

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Token-based reconnection

2016-02-14 Thread Daniel Gultsch
cation attribute. cheers Daniel 2016-02-14 21:29 GMT+01:00 Florian Schmaus : > On 13.02.2016 12:31, Jonas Wielicki wrote: > > On 12.02.2016 11:08, Florian Schmaus wrote: > >> Here is my suggestion how such a XEP could look like: > > > >> http://geekplace.eu/xeps/xep-q

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: References

2016-02-14 Thread Daniel Gultsch
link sharing is already seeing wide adoption (Conversations, gajim, monal, xabber)) cheers Daniel 2016-02-05 16:52 GMT+01:00 XMPP Extensions Editor : > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. > > Title: References > > Abstract: This document defines XMP

[Standards] XEP-0357: Push Notifications is missing business rules section

2016-02-16 Thread Daniel Gultsch
the server implementation (when MAM and offline are fed by the same data source) for (a) it is no required to keep the session open for much longer than regular. (ejabberd currently does this so i'm saying this here) cheers Daniel ___ Standards mailing

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Instant Stream Resumption

2016-02-17 Thread Daniel Gultsch
The remote-tok thing doesn't work because at this point it is already too late as the server (read a potential MiM attacker) already receiced the token. I think the server needs to be authenticated before the clients sends the tok. Or am I misunderstanding the problem? Maybe the client could at the

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: References

2016-02-24 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, 2016-02-14 22:33 GMT+01:00 Daniel Gultsch : > I would like to see this XEP support more or less arbitrary attributes > like content-type, content-length as well as resolution (x,y) for images > and videos as well as runtime for audio that can be used when referencing > files o

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: References

2016-02-24 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, 2016-02-24 13:35 GMT+01:00 Kevin Smith : > On 24 Feb 2016, at 11:57, Daniel Gultsch wrote: > > 2016-02-14 22:33 GMT+01:00 Daniel Gultsch : > > I would like to see this XEP support more or less arbitrary attributes > like content-type, content-length as well as resolutio

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: References

2016-03-21 Thread Daniel Gultsch
tion, thumbnail, content-length and so forth?) Or would you rather not have attributes like this in this XEP at all? Cheers Daniel [1] http://ogp.me/ ___ Standards mailing list Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: sta

Re: [Standards] [Council] Council Minutes 2021-07-21

2021-07-27 Thread Daniel Gultsch
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 3:31 PM Jonas Schäfer wrote: > 4) Items for Voting > > 4a) Proposed XMPP Extension: Pubsub Caching Hints > URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/pubsub-caching-hints.html > Abstract: This specification provides a way to get caching information from a > Pubsub node +1 ___

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0459 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2022)

2021-09-29 Thread Daniel Gultsch
- XEP-0455: Service Outage Status +1 to include in future section. > - for E2EE: XEP-0450: Automatic Trust Management (ATM) I don’t think we have enough experience with this XEP to tell whether or not this is even a good idea. cheers Daniel

[Standards] XEP-0371: Jingle ICE Transport Method - Question on ICE Restart detection

2021-11-16 Thread Daniel Gultsch
s own or a response to an ICE restart we initiated. Or to put it into WebRTC terminology how do I know if a transport-info with changed ufrag/pwd is an Offer or an Answer. cheers Daniel ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/lis

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2021-12-08

2021-12-07 Thread Daniel Gultsch
https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1129) b) XEP-0060: Release version 1.23.0 (https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1126) 5) Pending Votes (None so far) 6) Date of Next 7) AOB 8) Close cheers Daniel ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabbe

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2021-12-15

2021-12-14 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on December 15th 2021 at 16:00Z in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editor’s Update - None. But keep an eye on the last calls that are due 2022-01-04 4) Items for Voting - Nothing new t

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-01-05

2022-01-04 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, the next XMPP Council meeting will take place on January 5th 2022 at 16:00Z in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda bashing 3) Editors update - None. 4) Items for voting * LAST CALL: XEP-0424 (Message Retraction) * LAST CALL: XEP-0425 (Message M

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-01-12

2022-01-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on January 12th 2022 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update a) An Update to XEP-0353 (Jingle Message Initiation) has been released. (https://xmpp.org/extensions

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-01-19

2022-01-18 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on January 12th 2022 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update 4) Items for voting a) XEP-0060: Specify pubsub#type to reflect semantic info (https://github.com/x

Re: [Standards] [XEP-0030] we can't get basic information on a bare JID without presence subscription

2022-01-19 Thread Daniel Gultsch
uests even if there is no presence subscription) cheers Daniel On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 12:30 PM Goffi wrote: > in the context of my work on ActivityPub <=> XMPP gateway, I need to know if > a PEP service handles RSM. > > > Normally this is done by doing a disco#info request a

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-01-16

2022-01-25 Thread Daniel Gultsch
nce Suites 2021) 4) Items for voting a) XEP-0060: Release version 1.23.0 https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1152 b) XEP-0004: Release version 2.13.0 https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1153 c) XEP-0060: Release version 1.23.1 https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1154 5) Pending votes Daniel on https://

[Standards] XEP-0004 Partial form submission

2022-02-02 Thread Daniel Gultsch
nce. The PR in question: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1153/files Any feedback is appreciated. cheers Daniel ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___

Re: [Standards] [Members] Feedback on the proposed CoC

2022-02-04 Thread Daniel Pocock
undermines the rights of members in such a case and therefore it could be seen as a hack against the organization. Regards, Daniel -- Debian Developer https://danielpocock.com ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___

Re: [Standards] [Members] Feedback on the proposed CoC

2022-02-04 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 04/02/2022 13:00, Ralph Meijer wrote: > > On 04/02/2022 11.39, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> >> [..] >> >> I don't understand why the CoC is being subject to a standards process. >> It is a social phenomena.  In many organizations this type of thing is >

[Standards] actual evidence on CoCs

2022-02-04 Thread Daniel Pocock
ecent years since the Code of Conduct was enacted" Debian refuses to discuss the research, they prefer to attack the person. In other words, the CoC completely contradicts itself. Regards, Daniel -- Debian Developer https://danielpocock.com ___ Standa

Re: [Standards] actual evidence on CoCs (sports examples)

2022-02-07 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 04/02/2022 19:15, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > I'm putting this in a separate thread because it doesn't relate to the > specific text that is currently proposed. Feel free to use this thread > for any links to evidence or research for or against having a CoC. Thanks

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-02-09

2022-02-08 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on February 9th 2022 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update a) Published Update XEP-0060 that passed Council last week b) Proposed XMPP Extension: PubSub Type F

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-02-16

2022-02-15 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on February 16th 2022 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update a) The changes to 0004 and 0060 that council has voted on last week have been published b) Proposed

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-02-23

2022-02-22 Thread Daniel Gultsch
://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1168 5) Pending votes a) Everyone on XEP-0045 Remove more mentions of GC 1.0 b) Daniel on obsoleting three XEPs c) Jonas on obsoleting XEP-0038 d) Georg and Jonas on the new proto XEP (MUC Affiliations Versioning) See Spreadsheet of Doom: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-03-02

2022-03-01 Thread Daniel Gultsch
warnings - Obsolete and update Security Considerations for XEP-0138 and XEP-0229 See Spreadsheet of Doom: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aA6tQJ8XJ_UjCKrcJ6CyG-l3L5xETSlBrPRR-37Z_1E/edit?usp=sharing 6) Date of Next 7) AOB Daniel: +1w wfm 8) Close

Re: [Standards] actual evidence on CoCs (legal judgements)

2022-03-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
titute was not. The conclusion is a damning indictment on the CoC-culture On 04/02/2022 18:15, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > I'm putting this in a separate thread because it doesn't relate to the > specific text that is currently proposed. Feel free to use this thread > fo

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-03-16

2022-03-15 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on March 16 2022 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update none this week 4) Items for voting a) XEP-0406: fix xmlns in example https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/

Re: [Standards] [Members] Feedback on the proposed CoC

2022-03-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
I put together this open letter on the topic, it itemizes many of the points in CoCs and may be useful for measuring the proposed XSF CoC: https://danielpocock.com/open-letter-acm-codes-of-ethics-conduct/ On 04/02/2022 11:39, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > On 04/02/2022 10:40, JC Br

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-03-23

2022-03-23 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on March 23 2022 (today!) at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update none this week 4) Items for voting none this week 5) Pending votes none this week See Spre

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-03-30

2022-03-30 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on March 30 2022 (today!) at 15:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join Notice that is an hour earlier (in UTC) than last week! The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update none this week 4) Items for voting n

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-04-13

2022-04-12 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on April 13 2022 at 15:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update - Proposed XMPP Extension: Pubsub Public Subscriptions (https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/pubsub-public-

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-04-27

2022-04-26 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on April 27 2022 at 15:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update - Proposed XMPP Extension: Ephemeral Messages (https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/ephemeral-messages-v2.h

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-05-18

2022-05-17 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on May 18 2022 at 15:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update a) NEW: XEP-0466 (Ephemeral Messages) https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0466.html b) NEW: XEP-0465 (Pubsub

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-05-25

2022-05-24 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on May 25 2022 at 15:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update none this week 4) Items for voting none this week 5) Pending votes none this week See Spreadsheet of

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-06-01

2022-05-31 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi Council members, I’m on vacation this week and next but Jonas has kindly offered to chair the upcoming meeting. The next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on June 1 2022 at 15:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors up

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-06-15

2022-06-14 Thread Daniel Gultsch
/extensions/inbox/xmpp-over-quic.html) 5) Pending votes Daniel is pending on 'Start Last Call on XEP-0215' See Spreadsheet of Doom: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aA6tQJ8XJ_UjCKrcJ6CyG-l3L5xETSlBrPRR-37Z_1E/edit?usp=sharing 6) Date of Next 7) AOB

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2022-07-27

2022-07-26 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi Council members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on Wednesday, July 27 2022 at 15:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update a) Proposed XMPP Extension: Bookmark Pinning https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox

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