RE: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-13 Thread Galbreath, Mark
Clever. :-) -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:18 PM I was thinking . . . of calling them HasBeans. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread Adam Hardy
No, I already have a DAO that does all the dirty stuff with connections, statements and resultsets. The classes I mean are the ones that get the data back from the DAO and put it in data classes, marshalling classes so to speak. I don't want to do that in the Action classes, nor in the data

RE: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread Steve Earl
. __ -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What do you call them beans? No, I already have a DAO that does all the dirty stuff with connections, statements and resultsets. The classes I mean are the ones

RE: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread Adam Hardy
Yeah, but what are the variable names and class names for them? I have major problems naming variables and have a bad tendency to end up calling everything bob (bob1, bob2, bob3) unless I have a standard to cling to. On Tue, 12 March 2002, Steve Earl wrote: Business Objects? Find the

RE: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread Chappell, Simon P
Struts actually has very little to say about the model side of your application. It provides the controller and the means to extend it and provides for the use of JSPs with custom tags to give you your view, but the ActionForm objects have only one foot in the model world. They are really

RE: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread Michelle Popovits
names like DataManager Oliver -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. März 2002 14:30 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: RE: What do you call them beans? Yeah, but what are the variable names and class names for them? I have major

RE: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread MARK NICHOLS
Stuffer. I like it. =) We have this: name.jsp -- nameForm -- nameAction -- nameBO -- nameDAO -- nameEntity BO = Business object - where we put the application logic DAO = Data Access Object - where the SQL is encapsulated Entity = An object representation of the table - this may have a 1:1

RE: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread Adam Hardy
No problem, I'm just as boring. Factory sounds good. Perhaps SatanicMill - no, sounds too grim. Or CustomerButtReamer. On Tue, 12 March 2002, Chappell, Simon P wrote: Struts actually has very little to say about the model side of your application. It provides the controller and the

RE: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread Cakalic, James
I've heard such objects called Business Delegates. This is the name of a pattern in the Core J2EE Patterns with the intent of decoupling the presentation tier clients and the business services that they require. It is helpful in hiding the underlying complexity of the service implementation and

RE: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread Maturo, Larry
Yes, that's what we call them also. -- Larry Maturo [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Soledad Villa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:38 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: What do you call them beans? how do you like DAO (data access

Re: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread John M. Corro
I'll occassionally run a Tiered Accessor Entity to a Business Object.in which case I just label it a TaeBo Sorry couldn't resist : ) - Original Message - From: MARK NICHOLS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:04 AM Subject: RE: What do you call

RE: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread Cakalic, James
-Original Message- From: Maturo, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:02 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: What do you call them beans? Yes, that's what we call them also. -- Larry Maturo [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original

Re: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread keithBacon
: ) - Original Message - From: MARK NICHOLS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:04 AM Subject: RE: What do you call them beans? Stuffer. I like it. =) We have this: name.jsp -- nameForm -- nameAction -- nameBO -- nameDAO -- nameEntity BO

RE: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread Adam Hardy
On Tue, 12 March 2002, Michelle Popovits wrote: I generally use suffixes based on the pattern or layer that they are in Value objects nameVo.java Data Access OBjects nameDao.java Perhaps the business object layer which co-ordinates the dao layer could be nameBo.java ? Hmmm, I'm

RE: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread Adam Hardy
On Tue, 12 March 2002, Cakalic, James wrote: These Business Objects are what I referred to before as Business Delegates or Command Beans. Really, as I see it, you want your Actions to be the transformation point between your presentation (using JSPs, HTML, ActionForms, etc.) and your model.

Re: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread Adam Hardy
occassionally run a Tiered Accessor Entity to a Business Object.in which case I just label it a TaeBo Sorry couldn't resist : ) - Original Message - From: MARK NICHOLS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:04 AM Subject: RE: What do you call them

RE: What do you call them beans?

2002-03-12 Thread Cakalic, James
do you call them beans? On Tue, 12 March 2002, Cakalic, James wrote: These Business Objects are what I referred to before as Business Delegates or Command Beans. Really, as I see it, you want your Actions to be the transformation point between your presentation (using JSPs, HTML