Re: [Sugar-devel] Using Trac via email

2009-06-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 05:14:08PM +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 04:14:01PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: So if Trac generically had some client-server ABI that I could expect would be available at many other Trac

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal activity release 101 not tagged in Git

2009-06-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
will be to determine how to scale Sugar Labs _fairly_ build on the interests, contributions, and needs of the various stakeholders. Ok, convinced. Where do I sign up for that team? - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal activity release 101 not tagged in Git

2009-06-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: [Sugar-devel] More information on font scaling problem

2009-06-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
(or whereever sugar-emulator is located on your system). - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

2009-06-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
work, but you then have the heavy and slow burden of your USB boot routine including a full bootup and shutdown of another operating system. :-/ - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask

[Sugar-devel] hulahop autotools seems broken

2009-05-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
be another core library) a newer release ship with older autotools files (e.g. not shipping the - funny in our context - - m4/ltsugar.mk file). Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me

[Sugar-devel] Journal activity release 101 not tagged in Git

2009-05-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
at the git at dev.laptop.org). Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

[Sugar-devel] Official homepages for activities are at laptop.org?

2009-05-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
at wiki.laptop.org. Is that correct? Are official activity homepages at wiki.laptop.org? Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP

Re: [Sugar-devel] Official homepages for activities are at laptop.org?

2009-05-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 05:03:34PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Jonas, On 30 May 2009, at 09:44, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: While updating packages for Debian, I failed to find proper homepages for activities at wiki.sugarlabs.org - and core

Re: [Sugar-devel] Official homepages for activities are at laptop.org?

2009-05-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 01:37:55PM -0500, David Farning wrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: I am packaging software that was published by Sugarlabs.  So for the context of the package that I build

Re: [Sugar-devel] Official homepages for activities are at laptop.org?

2009-05-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi Gary and all others, On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 07:50:49PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: On 30 May 2009, at 19:05, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: I am packaging software that was published by Sugarlabs. So for the context of the package that I build

Re: [Sugar-devel] Progress with SoaS boot-helper

2009-05-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
relevant, however. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
because they are expremely popular so getting acquainted to them is very valuable for children. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
screening process which causes delays and risk of lost emails. Kind regards, Jonas (one of only two list moderators - more volunteers appreciated!) - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 06:18:35AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 04:58:17AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: Tomeu Vizoso writes: I think it's very

[Sugar-devel] changed list admin password

2009-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 04:15:22PM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 15:42, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 03:23:20PM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: 2009/5/28 Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk Please

Re: [Sugar-devel] possible foundation for an email activity

2009-05-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
know about this till now? - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
. In other words, it may be illegal to publish SoaS as pre-blessed images. :-( - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 03:45:21PM -0300, Andrea Mangiatordi wrote: Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Beware that if blessing is similar to that of classic MacOS, then it includes adding a small binary piece that is *not* free software. In other

Re: [Sugar-devel] possible foundation for an email activity

2009-05-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
/evolution.shtmland Balsa http://www.balsa.net/ mail readers. The use of the proper sorting algorithm does not change the lousy track record of Evolution due to other parts of that monstruous application :-( Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 06:55:12PM -0300, Andrea Mangiatordi wrote: Jonas Smedegaard wrote: You cannot run the currently released SoaS on a PowerPC Macintosh. That's why I wrote so I can't test it directly ;) Ah, ok :-) SoaS is only

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
)? GNOME can work with different window managers too, even if it ships with this one as default. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP

Re: [Sugar-devel] Quoting in shell scripts (was: Re: [sugar-devel] Recent fiddlings with Print Support)

2009-05-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Quoting in shell scripts (was: Re: [sugar-devel] Recent fiddlings with Print Support)

2009-05-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
to not risk hiding failures (you need to do set -e inside each subshell). Here's my suggested variant of above: sandbox=$(mktemp -t cups-odftops.XX) mkdir -m 077 $sandbox || exit 1 Enjoy :-) - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http

Re: [Sugar-devel] Quoting in shell scripts (was: Re: [sugar-devel] Recent fiddlings with Print Support)

2009-05-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
, which means add a random number that is 4 characters long. (umask 077 mkdir $sandbox) || exit 1 If a system for some reason fails to set umask, above command silently continues! Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-108

2009-05-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
might be scattered at wiki pages, mailinglists and git commit comments. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-108

2009-05-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 11:30:22AM -0500, David Farning wrote: On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 06:04:06PM -0500, David Farning wrote: The conical source of information on activities

Re: [Sugar-devel] Compiler warnings building olpcsound

2009-04-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
that you will need the optimizations provided by the olpcsound build. I do not use SuSE, and do not hit same bug on Debian, so just shooting in the dark here. Kind regards, - Jonas Package maintainer for CSound packaging for Debian (but no expert in CSound or C++). - -- * Jonas Smedegaard

Re: [Sugar-devel] Compiler warnings building olpcsound

2009-04-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on LTSP

2009-04-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
your_first_machine sugar-emulator Kind regards, - Jonas Debian (not Ubuntu) developer - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: [Sugar-devel] Notes on service discovery XS/XO

2009-04-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
standard DNS internally and on the wire, setup DNS-SD entries in a standard nameserver on the XS, and extend Sugar to support DNS-SD. I'd be happy to help compose standard BIND9 files, if that is what will be used on the XS. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt

Re: [Sugar-devel] Notes on service discovery XS/XO

2009-04-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 04:08:30PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: DNS-SD using unicast DNS seems reasonable to me too. If we can do without the avahi gunk, and use it in a way

Re: [Sugar-devel] Notes on service discovery XS/XO

2009-04-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
DNS-SD to mDNS, then in fact you are still relying on DNS-SD, just using an additional layer on top of it. A good introduction (assumably more reliable than Wikipedia) is http://www.dns-sd.org/ - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website

[Sugar-devel] Updated backports of Jabber server for Debian

2009-04-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
be installed manually on top of my packages, and when packaged officially for Debian I intend to include it. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Requesting review for Sugar-gsoc application Marbles

2009-04-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
, as that is the framework currently used for most of Sugar (and, I believe, the only generic framework currently used: those not using that framework use something non-generic). Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Requesting review for Sugar-gsoc application Marbles

2009-04-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
about Qt there, only PyGTK. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [Sugar-devel] Licensing problem in sugar-base

2009-04-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:25:46AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 01:39, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: sugar-base 0.84.0 has (compared to 0.82.2) added a few files below /src/sugar/dispatch. Most of them contains

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Grassroots-l] personal Re: Experience w/ using GPS with XO laptops

2009-04-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
applications?) Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [Sugar-devel] Naming of XS host (was: Re: Local static page, final call for edits)

2009-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:17:22AM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: I like calling it just school. I believe school is metaphorically exactly what you describe as neighborhood

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal: Document proposed distro tweaks in INSTALL file (Was: Browse-106)

2009-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:31:46AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 2009/4/2 Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc: On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Please help distributors by documenting such config options that might

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

[Sugar-devel] Proposal: Document proposed distro tweaks in INSTALL file (Was: Browse-106)

2009-04-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
to be aware of, not mandate it for standard blah blah (as the GNU project do, I believe). Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP

Re: [Sugar-devel] Naming of XS host (was: Re: Local static page, final call for edits)

2009-04-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
technically are applications or programs but not promoted as such, the school makes sense to not advertise as a server: From a user perspective it is really irrelevant if it is one server or a cloud of services or an integral part of the internet. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard

Re: [Sugar-devel] Distributors mixing across Sugar branches (Was: Terminal v25 (attention distro managers!!))

2009-04-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 12:43:04PM +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:12, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: - From a distributor point of view, it would be nice to be able to look at the Homepage of each part of Sugar (sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Gadget on XS

2009-04-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
floating around unofficially. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Gadget on XS

2009-04-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 03:22:12PM +0100, Guillaume Desmottes wrote: Le mercredi 01 avril 2009 à 14:14 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:50:52AM +0100, Guillaume Desmottes wrote: The Debian package write logs to /var/log

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Gadget on XS

2009-04-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 10:18:37AM -0500, David Farning wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 03:22:12PM +0100, Guillaume Desmottes wrote: Le mercredi 01 avril 2009 à 14:14 +0200, Jonas

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Gadget on XS

2009-04-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 04:49:33PM +0100, Guillaume Desmottes wrote: Le mercredi 01 avril 2009 à 17:37 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : 1. Is it a Debian package of Gadget, ejabberd or something else? The link I pasted you is a git branch

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Gadget on XS

2009-04-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
cc'ed this thread, despite the note about it. - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on various distros

2009-03-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 01:03:13AM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:08:24PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: (*) Really bad hack, will break updates of unrelated packages in very interesting ways. I must admit that I have

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on various distros (was: Re: IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild: security update of xulrunner)

2009-03-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
to help package, and I want multiple concurrent tracks - probably latest stable + very latest. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on various distros

2009-03-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:32:55PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:07:04PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What workarounds? Using Python 2.5 instead of Python 2.6 in Ubuntu Jaunty by changing the symlink /usr/bin/python

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] TurtleArt-41

2009-03-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
, this is awesome work! Wauuuw! Thanks for bringing some attention to this. ...and thanks for the page itself, Walter! (TurtleArt just ended on top of my list of packages to install next for Debian!) - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Surf 106

2009-03-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
suspect it may vary a lot, depending on compile options of e.g. xulrunner). - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Surf 106

2009-03-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 11:27:00AM -0500, Bobby Powers wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 09:21:50AM +, Bobby Powers wrote: An informal test showed that Browse in sugar-emulator

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Surf 106

2009-03-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 03:06:26PM -0500, Bobby Powers wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: [1] Pages like http://dotnetperls.com/Content/Browser-Memory.aspx demonstrate how WebKit-based browsers in the past

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Surf 106

2009-03-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
) can be configured to clear its memory caches when the kernel signals that it is low on memory. Any chance Sugar (and its dependencies) can do that on normal Linux systems one day? Try google for gtk mem_notify or look here: http://lwn.net/Articles/267451/ - Jonas - -- * Jonas

Re: [Sugar-devel] Full Licence field

2009-03-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmrS90ACgkQn7DbMsAkQLhuigCePC4ow77Tjo4V7XVZ

Re: [Sugar-devel] Mailing list moderators needed

2009-02-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
, not listadmin. Fair enough, but then I can't comment much on the configuration of the list. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [Sugar-devel] Mailing list moderators needed

2009-02-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
, right? The I can volunteer for that. I already do same task for 10-15 other lists that I am admin for. If anyone cares, I use the commandline tool listadmin, which makes the task much faster. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal empty in Soas-200902231225 and what is Soas-200902241809.iso in snapshots/2/ ?

2009-02-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
written å, but for names specifically it often has a significance of being family names with a long proud trail. My middle name is Smedegaard and not Smedegård. :-) /offtopic - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal empty in Soas-200902231225 and what is Soas-200902241809.iso in snapshots/2/ ?

2009-02-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-02-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:22:13AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: I can understand your frustration. But perhaps you need to aim differently. Correction: Perhaps *we* need to aim differently. It is off course not your problem - we all loose

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] SoaS - moving onward...

2009-02-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
its About this system from lsb_release. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [Sugar-devel] Location of Saved XO Settings

2009-02-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
images? SoaS is based on 0.83.x thus all configs are now in gconf it could be changed by sugar-control-panel command (not sure about direct changing gconf's parameters) I believe the best approach is to use gconftool. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] SoaS - moving onward...

2009-02-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:14:00PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 09:44, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 09:02:53AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: The question is, when I download latest, and find

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] SoaS - moving onward...

2009-02-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:54:45AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:46:36PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Do you want that to stay that way (i.e. all distros need

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar now has smoke test procedures.

2009-02-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
for distributions. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

[Sugar-devel] Where to store non-Glucose activities ( Was: Moon-9, almost…)

2009-02-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
#Publish_source_tarballs_for_each_release Agreed: That's where I as a distributor would expect to find the best quality activities, even those not part of Glucose. :-) - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.84 Release Candidate 1 (0.83.5)

2009-02-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
(which is a derivative of Fedora, I believe). You (among others, and quite understandably so!) seem to confuse the Desktop developed by Sugarlabs with the distributions including it. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-104

2009-02-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Deployments, is that so, or do you believe this official Schoolserver change works on 0.82 too? - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [Sugar-devel] What should we call it? Addons of Activities

2009-02-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
make her/him try imagine on their own what kind of place it would actually become. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Reduce default emulator resolution to 1024x768

2009-02-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: [Sugar-devel] What should we call it? Addons of Activities

2009-02-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
complex! :-) - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Reduce default emulator resolution to 1024x768

2009-02-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 03:53:41PM +0100, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Jonas Smedegaard wrote: +DEFAULT_WIDTH = 1024 +DEFAULT_HEIGHT = 768 How about adjusting that patch to keep old values by default, but provide commandline arguments and perhaps

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Reduce default emulator resolution to 1024x768

2009-02-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
0 (fullscreen) and -1 (random) 2) Add configfile parsing (gconf?) of (at least) width and height 3) Set internal defaults (both width and height) to -1 4) Provide sample configfile with defaults set to 0 - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Reduce default emulator resolution to 1024x768

2009-02-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
) - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmdjQcACgkQn7DbMsAkQLjsEgCfcPNjxkyrmdE

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Reduce default emulator resolution to 1024x768

2009-02-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
just starting up in a different resolution. Don't know, but it seems Xephyr supports xrandr. This related discussion might be relevant: http://butterfeet.org/?p=26 - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me

[Sugar-devel] Recent Browse with 0.82 (Was: Displaying flash activities automatically in Browse)

2009-02-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
with 0.82 in Debian seems to work fine. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [Sugar-devel] Supported methods of starting Sugar

2009-02-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
gdm you can only pick a gdm item, not a binary directly. Gdm should invoke sugar, not sugar-emulator. Hope that clarifies. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Supported methods of starting Sugar

2009-02-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:16:26PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:53:48AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: If you're logging in to Sugar directly from gdm, then it should run sugar. ^^ what's it? or did you mean you

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar on jaunty and abiword

2009-02-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
duplicate similar temporary hackish approach, postponing a more optimal distributed approach even further. Debian is blamed for developing too slow. Above will help slow down distributed efforts! - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
as fixed and then unfixed again) that the people actually working on running ahead of Debian for this specific issue are unskilled in packaging libraries. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
? powerpc64? How about Pentium optimizations for ia32 (so-called i686)? Imagine Chat. How can the end-user know that version 60 and newer won't work on 0.82? It cannot be expressed in the packaging, only on some web page that the user then needs to read ahead of updating. - Jonas - -- * Jonas

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:24:20AM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Debian POV: Someone needs to volunteer packaging sugar-etoys-activity. Drop an email to debian-olpc-de

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:38:27PM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: On 2/11/09, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:24:20AM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 03:38:04PM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: No need to get into details of what exactly is flawed with my packaging style, or how you would do things

Re: [Sugar-devel] Getting sugar-jhbuild run working

2009-02-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 05:33:09PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 07:07:02PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: [Ubuntu python-gconf has RPATH setting] If this turns out to be the case, you should probably file a bugreport

Re: [Sugar-devel] Getting sugar-jhbuild run working

2009-02-09 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
here: http://wiki.debian.org/RpathIssue - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [Sugar-devel] Getting sugar-jhbuild run working

2009-02-09 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 07:22:41PM +0100, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 05:24:53PM +0100, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Sascha

Re: [Sugar-devel] A small request.

2009-02-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 07:25:54AM -0500, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 10:46:35AM +0100, Bernie Innocenti wrote: C. Scott Ananian wrote: OK, thanks

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity updater

2009-02-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 01:00:53PM +0100, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What Debian package? I found no mention of olpc-update anywhere in the source code for Sugar, so I guess you are talking about something OLPC-specific

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-widgets request

2009-02-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
recent versions of core packages that it rely on) that it could work even with existing deployments using Sugar 0.82! - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep

[Sugar-devel] Xapian wrapper secore now called xappy

2009-02-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
been completely dropped with the recent rewrite of Sugar datastore, or if this info is perhaps interesting... Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Naming of sugar, the Sugar Shell

2009-01-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
upstream rename of same package (else I see no reason to change name for Debian). - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: [Sugar-devel] squeak in debian

2009-01-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 08:51:20AM +1800, David Farning wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 02:48:20AM +1800, David Farning wrote: Is it squeak and etoys that we are missing from

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.83.4 Development Release

2009-01-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:45:15AM +0100, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Use the recommended style as mentioned in Git documentation somewhere: First line a summary of at most 40 chars, then empty line, then optional detailed

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.83.4 Development Release

2009-01-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
#1234, OLPC#1235. The logic is to always prepend Closes: and then either SL# or # for each comma-separated ticket closed, or prepend OLPC# for tickets closed at the laptop.org bugtracker. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http

Re: [Sugar-devel] 1-click way to add extra fonts?

2009-01-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
if username is sugar). And you really do not need to store in subdirectories. Still not 1-click... - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP

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