Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-16 Thread Toad
Really people, can we take the advocacy to chat or private email? Oh and btw, the number of nodes on freenet is ~ 4000-16000. On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 07:53:38PM -0400, Michael R. Stork wrote: > David Masover wrote: > > >>an excuse to tell them how ignorant they are for "not doing it your way" > >

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-15 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael R. Stork wrote: | David Masover wrote: | |>> an excuse to tell them how ignorant they are for "not doing it your way" |>> |> I was suggesting my way. I wasn't implying that anyone was stupid. |> | Perhaps it wasn't you that made the first comm

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-15 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael R. Stork wrote: | making beef stew. And you telling them that electric is no good, that | before they do anything else they need to rip out their stove and | install a gas one. Oh and beef isn't good for them anyway so here's this | really tast

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-15 Thread Michael R. Stork
David Masover wrote: so. If they're curious, then they'll ask about it. But if someone is asking for an answer to a very specific question, then turning it into If someone asks "Does anyone know how to make crispy bagels in the microwave" and I suggest using a toaster instead for that particul

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-15 Thread Michael R. Stork
David Masover wrote: an excuse to tell them how ignorant they are for "not doing it your way" I was suggesting my way. I wasn't implying that anyone was stupid. Perhaps it wasn't you that made the first comment, but the first person who started talking about Linux in this thread did so by im

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-15 Thread David Masover
> If it's a "very old computer" it may not be able to run Freenet > adequately. It should. I know it isn't. Freenet uses 100% CPU wherever I run it. > Heh. Well, not everyone who runs Freenet is as paranoid as some of our > users are. :) They are patient enough with its slowness to be that pa

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-15 Thread David Masover
> so. If they're curious, then they'll ask about it. But if someone is > asking for an answer to a very specific question, then turning it into If someone asks "Does anyone know how to make crispy bagels in the microwave" and I suggest using a toaster instead for that particular task, then I'm not

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-15 Thread Michael R. Stork
Jay Oliveri wrote: Being that this is a "support" list, support those who have questions in things you have answers for and ignore the rest. And let those who wish to remain ignorant of the technical details remain so. Jay Thank you ! You summed up rather nicely what I was trying to get across.

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-15 Thread Jay Oliveri
This is off-topic, but illustrates some attitudes around here that are not helpful for a Freenet Support list. On Monday 14 June 2004 06:46 pm, David Masover wrote: > Jay Oliveri wrote: > | On Monday 14 June 2004 08:45 am, David Masover wrote: > |>Madeline Brubaker wrote: > |>| Would someone step

Re: [freenet-support] Norton Firewall

2004-06-15 Thread Toad
If you are just using NIS and connecting directly to the DSL modem/cable modem, then you just need to tell NIS to allow incoming connections on the listenPort... you probably don't need to set ipAddress. And if you do, on a dynamic DNS system, it probably would be a bad idea anyway. On Sun, Jun 13

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-15 Thread Toad
I would respond to this, but this is DEFINITELY getting off-topic. Please take distribution/OS advocacy to chat. On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 06:04:59PM -0500, David Masover wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Nicholas Sturm wrote: > | Dear > | > |>Madeline Brubaker: > |

Re: [freenet-support] Norton Firewall

2004-06-15 Thread Toad
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 03:01:24PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >1) Find the IP address of my NAT or Firewall. > > > >The FAQ says to consult my manual but I can't find this information. > > check http://www.whatismyip.com/ > it displays your ip from their POV which is the IP the freenet node

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-15 Thread Toad
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 05:46:24PM -0500, David Masover wrote: > | I had an external firewall only that sat between the cable modem and the > | house LAN, but there was a problem; someone else on the LAN got a worm > | (they aren't as savvy) and I was running Windows without a firewall, and > | wit

Re: [freenet-support] Norton Firewall

2004-06-15 Thread Toad
:) Good point. Personally I've never used Norton even on a Windows machine.. maybe somebody here has. On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 02:08:00AM -0400, Nicholas Sturm wrote: > Now that we have let off the steam, did anyone ever really try to answer this nice > person's questions to her satisfaction? > >

Re: Linux vs Windows was (Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall)

2004-06-15 Thread Toad
Because the solution he offered was actually reasonably practical. For a lot of people anyway. Maybe not trivial but certainly not hard, and probably not expensive. However we are straying dangerously close to advocacy here... On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 12:25:15AM -0400, Michael R. Stork wrote: > Dav

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-15 Thread Toad
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 12:08:27PM -0400, Jay Oliveri wrote: > On Monday 14 June 2004 08:45 am, David Masover wrote: > > Madeline Brubaker wrote: > > | Would someone step me through setting up Norton Internet Security > > | Professional properly? I'm not entirely sure how to > > > > Do yourself a f

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-15 Thread Toad
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 12:15:09AM -0400, Michael R. Stork wrote: > David Masover wrote: > > >Michael R. Stork wrote: > >[...] > >| a hardware firewall and NAT. I wouldn't connect any PC direct to a > >| cable/DSL line. > > > >I would. A linux one. Or better, a BSD one. With daily updates. The

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-15 Thread Toad
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 07:45:46AM -0500, David Masover wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Madeline Brubaker wrote: > | Would someone step me through setting up Norton Internet Security > | Professional properly? I'm not entirely sure how to > > Do yourself a favor

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-15 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael R. Stork wrote: | U, no offense, but are you just being intentionally argumentative ? No, just trying to clear up a possible misconception. Some people have this idea that there's some huge difference between a personal computer and a serv

RE: [freenet-support] Norton Firewall

2004-06-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>1) Find the IP address of my NAT or Firewall. > >The FAQ says to consult my manual but I can't find this information. check http://www.whatismyip.com/ it displays your ip from their POV which is the IP the freenet nodes have to use. if your ISP dispconnects you every-so-often and you therefore ha

RE: [freenet-support] Norton Firewall

2004-06-14 Thread Nicholas Sturm
Now that we have let off the steam, did anyone ever really try to answer this nice person's questions to her satisfaction?   Sorry about stirring up the hornet's nest, but I do get tired of some insisting everyone should throw away all their hard- and soft ware and get with the ONLY worthy system

Linux vs Windows was (Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall)

2004-06-14 Thread Michael R. Stork
David Masover wrote: | What, a linux/unix box is *not* a software firewall? :) Point taken. But Linux kernel vs Norton userspace? About the third time I've said so on this list, but I just turn off the _services_ that I don't use, and people get denied anyway, with no special firewall. What's the

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-14 Thread Michael R. Stork
David Masover wrote: Michael R. Stork wrote: [...] | a hardware firewall and NAT. I wouldn't connect any PC direct to a | cable/DSL line. I would. A linux one. Or better, a BSD one. With daily updates. The firewall really wouldn't help all that much for me, although I do use NAT as an effective

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-14 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nicholas Sturm wrote: | Dear | |>Madeline Brubaker: | | | Please excuse the nuts around here that seem to be as much of a | problem as Apple lovers once were. Ooh! Ooh! I smell a rant! Please excuse my response to being called a nut. | I don't partic

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-14 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jay Oliveri wrote: | On Monday 14 June 2004 08:45 am, David Masover wrote: | |>Madeline Brubaker wrote: |>| Would someone step me through setting up Norton Internet Security |>| Professional properly? I'm not entirely sure how to |> |>Do yourself a fav

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-14 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |>I'm not a Linux nut, but I agree with this in principal. Just using a |>software firewall is totally insecure. Your best bet, if you don't want |>to bother setting up a Linux box to act as your go between, [...] | | | What, a

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-14 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael R. Stork wrote: [...] | a hardware firewall and NAT. I wouldn't connect any PC direct to a | cable/DSL line. I would. A linux one. Or better, a BSD one. With daily updates. The firewall really wouldn't help all that much for me, although I

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-14 Thread Nicholas Sturm
Dear > Madeline Brubaker: Please excuse the nuts around here that seem to be as much of a problem as Apple lovers once were. I don't particularly like some of Window's creations, but even though Linus "releases" are getting slowly more usable for ordinary people, they still do not have enough clo

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-14 Thread Michael R. Stork
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not a Linux nut, but I agree with this in principal. Just using a software firewall is totally insecure. Your best bet, if you don't want to bother setting up a Linux box to act as your go between, [...] What, a linux/unix box is *not* a software firewall? :) LOL

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-14 Thread Jay Oliveri
On Monday 14 June 2004 08:45 am, David Masover wrote: > Madeline Brubaker wrote: > | Would someone step me through setting up Norton Internet Security > | Professional properly? I'm not entirely sure how to > > Do yourself a favor, and don't run that software. > > Yes, I'm a Linux nut. My attitude

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-14 Thread freenetproject
> I'm not a Linux nut, but I agree with this in principal. Just using a > software firewall is totally insecure. Your best bet, if you don't want > to bother setting up a Linux box to act as your go between, [...] What, a linux/unix box is *not* a software firewall? :) -- 5:45PM up 132 days,

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-14 Thread Michael R. Stork
David Masover wrote: Madeline Brubaker wrote: | Would someone step me through setting up Norton Internet Security | Professional properly? I'm not entirely sure how to Do yourself a favor, and don't run that software. Yes, I'm a Linux nut. My attitude towards Windows boxes is: almost all Windows

Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-14 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Madeline Brubaker wrote: | Would someone step me through setting up Norton Internet Security | Professional properly? I'm not entirely sure how to Do yourself a favor, and don't run that software. Yes, I'm a Linux nut. My attitude towards Windows boxe

Re: [freenet-support] Norton Firewall

2004-06-13 Thread Michael R. Stork
Madeline Brubaker wrote: Would someone step me through setting up Norton Internet Security Professional properly? I'm not entirely sure how to: 1) Find the IP address of my NAT or Firewall. The FAQ says to consult my manual but I can't find this information. It depends on whether or not you're

[freenet-support] Norton Firewall

2004-06-13 Thread Madeline Brubaker
Would someone step me through setting up Norton Internet Security Professional properly? I'm not entirely sure how to:   1) Find the IP address of my NAT or Firewall.   The FAQ says to consult my manual but I can't find this information.   2) Configure your NAT or firewall to forward connecti

[freenet-support] norton firewall

2004-06-13 Thread Madeline Brubaker
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