Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-04 Thread me2
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Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-05 Thread MikeyG
On 1/4/2010 10:24 AM, me2 wrote: Yep. That would be nice ... would be nice if Firefox used the Old SeaMonkey Form Manager, too! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonke

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-05 Thread Phillip Jones
MikeyG wrote: On 1/4/2010 10:24 AM, me2 wrote: Yep. That would be nice ... would be nice if Firefox used the Old SeaMonkey Form Manager, too! The subject has been beat to death. The powers that be don't have the manpower, knowledge, interest, desire, willingness to do so. As a workable subs

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-05 Thread me2
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:14:32 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote: > The powers that be don't have the >manpower, knowledge, interest, desire, willingness to do so I hope we have not reached the point where seamonkey, or indeed any "free" software, will defined by a few - the genius of its origin was a

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-05 Thread NoOp
On 01/05/2010 11:27 AM, me2 wrote: > On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:14:32 -0500, Phillip Jones > wrote: > >> The powers that be don't have the >>manpower, knowledge, interest, desire, willingness to do so > > > I hope we have not reached the point where seamonkey, or indeed any > "free" software, will

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-05 Thread Phillip Jones
me2 wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:14:32 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote: The powers that be don't have the manpower, knowledge, interest, desire, willingness to do so I hope we have not reached the point where seamonkey, or indeed any "free" software, will defined by a few - the genius of its o

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-05 Thread MikeyG
On 1/5/2010 4:27 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: me2 wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:14:32 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote: The powers that be don't have the manpower, knowledge, interest, desire, willingness to do so I hope we have not reached the point where seamonkey, or indeed any "free" software, w

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-05 Thread me2
I'm going to make the unlikely assumption that your posting was of good intent - that you surely recognized that the initial post was a plea to the seamonkey community to restore what I believe is an important part of the original Netscape heritage. That my followup plainly said I belied that the l

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-05 Thread NoOp
t; someone's touchy-feeling mode is on way high. The inital post was a blank msg: > NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:23:53 -0600 > From: me2 > Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey > Subject: Restore Form manger...(no content) > Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:24:03 -

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-05 Thread Rufus
MikeyG wrote: On 1/4/2010 10:24 AM, me2 wrote: Yep. That would be nice ... would be nice if Firefox used the Old SeaMonkey Form Manager, too! ...would be even nicer if it encrypted the contents of the Form Manager...if it doesn't. The user can't really tell. -- - Rufus _

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-05 Thread Rufus
Phillip Jones wrote: me2 wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:14:32 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote: The powers that be don't have the manpower, knowledge, interest, desire, willingness to do so I hope we have not reached the point where seamonkey, or indeed any "free" software, will defined by a few

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-05 Thread Leonidas Jones
Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: me2 wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:14:32 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote: The powers that be don't have the manpower, knowledge, interest, desire, willingness to do so I hope we have not reached the point where seamonkey, or indeed any "free" software, will def

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-05 Thread Rufus
Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: me2 wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:14:32 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote: The powers that be don't have the manpower, knowledge, interest, desire, willingness to do so I hope we have not reached the point where seamonkey, or indeed any "f

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Ray_Net
NoOp wrote: That it not my view. My view is that perhaps you should switch from Forte Agent, and use SeaMonkey to search all of the threads that have already discussed this subject nearly into the ground. Forte Agent permit us to have the posts we want to be always visible - SM did not permit

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Phillip Jones
Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: me2 wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:14:32 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote: The powers that be don't have the manpower, knowledge, interest, desire, willingness to do so I hope we have not reached the point where seamonkey, o

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Robert Kaiser
Rufus schrieb: ...and I like the idea of using a standalone outside of the browser itself which is integrated as a part of the basic function of the OS - does the PC and/or Linux world incllude anything similar to Apple Keychain? If so, maybe the way to go is to exploit that (existing?) capabilit

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread David Wilkinson
Phillip Jones wrote: > iCab is unusual in that it will (automatically if turned on check for > bad code based on latest w3c specs. Green smile face shows up if correct > or a Purple Sad face show if there are errors. you can click on this and > generate a report which you can then save as a text fi

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Phillip Jones
David Wilkinson wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: iCab is unusual in that it will (automatically if turned on check for bad code based on latest w3c specs. Green smile face shows up if correct or a Purple Sad face show if there are errors. you can click on this and generate a report which you can then

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread chicagofan
Ray_Net wrote: NoOp wrote: That it not my view. My view is that perhaps you should switch from Forte Agent, and use SeaMonkey to search all of the threads that have already discussed this subject nearly into the ground. Forte Agent permit us to have the posts we want to be always visible - SM

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Mark Hansen
On 1/6/2010 8:26 AM, chicagofan wrote: > Ray_Net wrote: >> NoOp wrote: >> >>> That it not my view. My view is that perhaps you should switch from >>> Forte Agent, and use SeaMonkey to search all of the threads that have >>> already discussed this subject nearly into the ground. >>> >> Forte Agent p

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread chicagofan
me2 wrote: I'm going to make the unlikely assumption that your posting was of good intent - that you surely recognized that the initial post was a plea to the seamonkey community to restore what I believe is an important part of the original Netscape heritage. A "blank" message serves no purpos

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread David Wilkinson
Phillip Jones wrote: > Doesn't work of Mac OSX. You mean HTML Validator extension doesn't work on Mac OSX? I wouldn't know about that. It works on Windows, but you have to hack the version numbers for SM2. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mail

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Leonidas Jones
Phillip Jones wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: iCab is unusual in that it will (automatically if turned on check for bad code based on latest w3c specs. Green smile face shows up if correct or a Purple Sad face show if there are errors. you can click on this and generate a rep

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread chicagofan
Mark Hansen wrote: On 1/6/2010 8:26 AM, chicagofan wrote: Ray_Net wrote: NoOp wrote: That it not my view. My view is that perhaps you should switch from Forte Agent, and use SeaMonkey to search all of the threads that have already discussed this subject nearly into the ground. Forte Agent p

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Leonidas Jones
David Wilkinson wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Doesn't work of Mac OSX. You mean HTML Validator extension doesn't work on Mac OSX? I wouldn't know about that. It works on Windows, but you have to hack the version numbers for SM2. If that's what he means, lets look a little deeper: http://use

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Mark Hansen
On 1/6/2010 9:40 AM, chicagofan wrote: > Mark Hansen wrote: >> On 1/6/2010 8:26 AM, chicagofan wrote: >>> You can cancel *your* posts with SM [the same as any other program as >>> far as I know]. If you mean other people's posts, all you have to do is >> >> The client usually allows for a way to

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread chicagofan
Mark Hansen wrote: On 1/6/2010 9:40 AM, chicagofan wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 1/6/2010 8:26 AM, chicagofan wrote: You can cancel *your* posts with SM [the same as any other program as far as I know]. If you mean other people's posts, all you have to do is The client usually allows for a

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Ray_Net
chicagofan wrote: Ray_Net wrote: NoOp wrote: That it not my view. My view is that perhaps you should switch from Forte Agent, and use SeaMonkey to search all of the threads that have already discussed this subject nearly into the ground. Forte Agent permit us to have the posts we want to be

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Ray_Net
Ray_Net wrote: chicagofan wrote: Ray_Net wrote: NoOp wrote: That it not my view. My view is that perhaps you should switch from Forte Agent, and use SeaMonkey to search all of the threads that have already discussed this subject nearly into the ground. Forte Agent permit us to have the post

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread David Wilkinson
Ray_Net wrote: >>> Forte Agent permit us to have the posts we want to be always visible - >>> SM did not permit that. >>> Forte Agent permit us to delete the posts we want SM did not permit >>> that. >> >> I don't understand either of these comments. >> > If you work only with SM and never with For

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread chicagofan
David Wilkinson wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Forte Agent permit us to have the posts we want to be always visible - SM did not permit that. Forte Agent permit us to delete the posts we want SM did not permit that. I don't understand either of these comments. If you work only with SM and never with

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Mark Hansen
On 1/6/2010 1:26 PM, chicagofan wrote: > Mark Hansen wrote: >> >> It sounded to me like they wanted to cancel their post. This is ultimately >> a function of the news server. The user can demand the feature in their >> news client all they want, but if the server doesn't provide the feature, >> it'

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Rufus
Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: me2 wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:14:32 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote: I know Camino does, and I was a bit surprised to find that Google Chrome does too. I'm also a bit surprised at how much alike Saf

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Rufus
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: ...and I like the idea of using a standalone outside of the browser itself which is integrated as a part of the basic function of the OS - does the PC and/or Linux world incllude anything similar to Apple Keychain? If so, maybe the way to go is to exploit that

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Leonidas Jones
Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: me2 wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:14:32 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote: I know Camino does, and I was a bit surprised to find that Google Chrome does too. I'm also a bit surprised at how mu

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Phillip Jones
David Wilkinson wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Doesn't work of Mac OSX. You mean HTML Validator extension doesn't work on Mac OSX? I wouldn't know about that. It works on Windows, but you have to hack the version numbers for SM2. yes. Now it does work in FF, and I in fact used it to clear some

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: iCab is unusual in that it will (automatically if turned on check for bad code based on latest w3c specs. Green smile face shows up if correct or a Purple Sad face show if there are errors. you can click on

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Doesn't work of Mac OSX. You mean HTML Validator extension doesn't work on Mac OSX? I wouldn't know about that. It works on Windows, but you have to hack the version numbers for SM2. If that's what he means, lets look a lit

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: me2 wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:14:32 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote: I know Camino does, and I was a bit surprised to find that Google Chrome does too. I'm also a

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Leonidas Jones
Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Doesn't work of Mac OSX. You mean HTML Validator extension doesn't work on Mac OSX? I wouldn't know about that. It works on Windows, but you have to hack the version numbers for SM2. If that's what he

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-06 Thread Daniel
Ray_Net wrote: Ray_Net wrote: chicagofan wrote: Ray_Net wrote: NoOp wrote: That it not my view. My view is that perhaps you should switch from Forte Agent, and use SeaMonkey to search all of the threads that have already discussed this subject nearly into the ground. Forte Agent permit us

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-07 Thread Philip Chee
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:32:47 -0500, David Wilkinson wrote: > Phillip Jones wrote: >> Doesn't work of Mac OSX. > > You mean HTML Validator extension doesn't work on Mac OSX? > > I wouldn't know about that. It works on Windows, but you have to hack the > version numbers for SM2. HTML Validator is

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-07 Thread Robert Kaiser
Rufus schrieb: My initial point/suggestion was to leverage capability built into the individual OS...thus allowing you to drop some code altogether. By introducing at least three code paths for the three major platforms, and probably some more for others like Solaris, AIX, OS/2 and whatever e

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-07 Thread Robert Kaiser
chicagofan schrieb: A "blank" message serves no purpose but to annoy other people who come to this "support forum" looking for help with their problems. Right, and that's why my reply to the OP is just as useless. "no content" probably even deserves no reply at all. :P Robert Kaiser

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-07 Thread NoOp
On 01/07/2010 04:40 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: > Rufus schrieb: >> My initial point/suggestion was to leverage capability built into the >> individual OS...thus allowing you to drop some code altogether. > > By introducing at least three code paths for the three major platforms, > and probably some

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-07 Thread Rufus
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: My initial point/suggestion was to leverage capability built into the individual OS...thus allowing you to drop some code altogether. By introducing at least three code paths for the three major platforms, and probably some more for others like Solaris, AIX

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-08 Thread Philip Chee
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:22:59 -0800, NoOp wrote: > Including the multiple variations/flavours/versions of those platforms. > > In fact I find it quite remarkable that SeaMonkey/Mozilla/OSS et al > manage to actually get everything (well most everything) to work in > Windows flavours from Win2K to

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-08 Thread Robert Kaiser
Rufus schrieb: Which you do already in maintaining a multi-platform product, so it's not a stretch. Oh, but maintaining a single code path for all platforms is much easier than 4-5 different ones! Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list su

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-08 Thread Robert Kaiser
NoOp schrieb: On 01/07/2010 04:40 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: My initial point/suggestion was to leverage capability built into the individual OS...thus allowing you to drop some code altogether. By introducing at least three code paths for the three major platforms, and probably

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-08 Thread Rufus
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: Which you do already in maintaining a multi-platform product, so it's not a stretch. Oh, but maintaining a single code path for all platforms is much easier than 4-5 different ones! Robert Kaiser Yeah...I'm not a coder, so I'm not really sure how you do

Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-03-08 Thread me2
I'm the dummy who started this topic, and I apologize to those who found my message format, content, etc., incorrect. I let my frustration with the loss of a, to me, highly valued part of seamonkey - form manager color my remarks. Since then I've messed with the various suggestions for forms made

iCab and DOCTYPE [was Restore Form manger...(no content)]

2010-01-07 Thread Philip Chee
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:21:54 -05001, Phillip Jones wrote: > For example here is error report for Mozilla.org opening (home) page: > http://www.phillipmjones.net/MozillaErrors.text "http://www.mozilla.org/ HTML Error (0, 0): The Doctype definition of the document is unknown." > It couldn't find D

Re: iCab and DOCTYPE [was Restore Form manger...(no content)]

2010-01-07 Thread Phillip Jones
Philip Chee wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:21:54 -05001, Phillip Jones wrote: For example here is error report for Mozilla.org opening (home) page: http://www.phillipmjones.net/MozillaErrors.text "http://www.mozilla.org/ HTML Error (0, 0): The Doctype definition of the document is unknown."