Re: [biofuel] Bush Energy Plan

2001-05-19 Thread Appal Energy
> In other words, "Business As Usual". I will try to refrain from making > political commentary here, but > something about all this makes my blood pressure rise a little bit. . . > > robert luis rabello Robert, The house cook suggests that you increase your intake of oatmeal t

Re: [biofuel] Re: Filters

2001-05-19 Thread Keith Addison
>We are told that there is >enough oil to last 70 years if we keep finding oil at the current rate but >with the increasing number of vehicles on the road and countries like China >coming on line I seriously doubt if there is 35 years supply left. >B.r., David I doubt we can take another 35 ye

RE: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Mike >Keith, > >How about getting rid of this thing? Done, removed and banned. Poor guy, imagine living inside such a narrow mind. Too bad, not our concern, I won't have people spewed at here, he can get his attention-fix somewhere else. Hey, Mike, ek se, scarf a kreef for me ou broe! And

Re: [biofuel] Off topic and On topic

2001-05-19 Thread Keith Addison
Hi David >Hey Keith, > Whats off topic about honey. Its about the best darn >biofuel for the human body you can get. No seriously I would accept >that its off topic and duly marked it O.T when replying. I know you did, and welcome, no problem at all - it was just the case that s

[biofuel] Remove me from mail list

2001-05-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please remove me from the mail list. I've received 30-40 emails about some silly argument over socialism, I've better things to do with my time. Some is definitely the weakest link-Goodbye Tim Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email

Re: [biofuel] The MN Way

2001-05-19 Thread steve spence
Of course, the big news is at http://microturbine.com/ small experimenter (turbocharger) model http://www.cbnet.it/cmodels/PagineIng/phoenixing.htm however, Honeywell is also into these devices. among others. http://www.eei.org/issues/news/releases/000720.htm http://www.businesswire.com/webbox

Re: [biofuel] Diesel engines - running on biodiesel

2001-05-19 Thread steve spence
Jeremy of course I was referring to Michaels comment : "If it is one of the recent engines that uses fuel injection, you will not be able to alternatively fuel the engine." when I said "this statement is not true in the case of diesel/biodiesel" I can see how it was misunderstood though. will tr

Re: [biofuel] SPECIAL INTRODUCTORY OFFER

2001-05-19 Thread dhargis1
David, Most of what I have read in the past about bypass filters concerned their utilization with synthetic motor oils. This is to aid in the prolonged change intervals seen with these oils. Now, if I am reading you correctly, you are advising that the use of the bypass filters with regular dino

[biofuel] Re : Filters

2001-05-19 Thread Barryt
David, Thanks for the emails. I will study them over the weekend. The one thing that I didn't understand until I got the Jpegs was one difference between the differnt models were the number of filter elements they contain. Looks very interesting. Regards Barry

[biofuel] Some links

2001-05-19 Thread Pedro M.
They have been got quickly, but you can use them . About climate and energy problems : http://journeytoforever.org/energiaweb/enlaces.htm All the best. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yah

[biofuel] SPECIAL INTRODUCTORY OFFER

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
SPECIAL INTRODUCTORY OFFER Save 10% on what is already the best filter at the best price. Normally 1/5th to 2/5th the price of other competitors Definitely less than 1/2 the price of our cheapest competitor even before discount. For a limited time we are offering MIL-MAC 4M By-pass Filters

Re: [biofuel] Why you should fit a MIL

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
John,. Yes they are virtually the same thing although there are minor differences. (See previous e-mails). Anybody who has fitted them and used them knows they work. In the short time I have been involved with them I have come across instances of mechanics removing them and trying to convi

Re: [biofuel] Re: Filters

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
John, Yes the Frantz is still made in the States, and the company is owned by a chap called George Walker who bought into the business when he retired from the navy in about 1972. Both the MIL-MAC and the Frantz work exceedingly well and are the cheapest options available. The idea has bee

[biofuel] Re: Filters

2001-05-19 Thread Barryt
David, I was reading your specs for the Mil-Mac filter element. Do you use the same filter for fuel as well as oil? What are the demensions of the element? I dive a toyota 4wd diesel with standard fuel filter element in the metal canaster used by toyota, mitsubishi and daihat

[biofuel] Re: Filters

2001-05-19 Thread John
Group, I did a search on the internet and came up with this web address http://www.wefilterit.com/home.htm So if you are looking for a similar type of filter for our American friends its much the same as David's Mil-Mac filter John [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofu

RE: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread Mike Brownstone
Keith, How about getting rid of this thing? Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 4:00 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance To Whom This May Concern, me thinks you protest too

Re: [biofuel] Why you should fit a MIL

2001-05-19 Thread John
David, Thanks for the info, it would appear that the FRANTZ filter of yesteryear was the same thing, we ran them in our fleet of both diesel and petrol powered trucks, and it is true what you say, we extended the engine life of all our fleet by 50%, which is quite outstanding. I remember one Chrys

[biofuel] Off topic and On topic

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
Hey Keith, Whats off topic about honey. Its about the best darn biofuel for the human body you can get. No seriously I would accept that its off topic and duly marked it O.T when replying. My point in replying here and bringing this up is that I agree with you. It is and would be

[biofuel] Bush Energy Plan

2001-05-19 Thread robert luis rabello
Hello everybody! I finally figured out how to "debounce" my e-mail address, and I'm getting messages again. . . Last night, I downloaded the U.S. energy policy document in PDF format from the following link: http://www.whitehouse.gov/energy It's about 180 pages in length,

Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
John, Thanks for your nice e-mail. Have just sent you an e-mail through the n.g answering your toilet roll query. In my opinion these filters should be fitted to every vehicle by law from an enviromental aspect as they help cut down exhaust emmissions but as I have said before you have abo

Re: [biofuel] Why you should fit a MIL

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
John, Yes and No. The filter roll is almost identical to a normal roll in size and dimensions but you cannot use a standard toilet roll as these are too loosely wound and would cause channeling which would cause the filter not to work properly. (Please remember fluids always choose the pa

[biofuel] Re: Archives

2001-05-19 Thread Jeremy Shuey
If it is ok with the group and the group moderator, I will start going back through the archives and put each month as one file (a pdf file), and put them on the net via a website. It will be a copy and paste, with all of the junk advertising and replys being on the file, so it may not look the n

Re: [biofuel] Why you should fit a MIL

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
Barry, Thanks for your e-mail. They certainly work and I have one fitted to my own car which I use with Fluids Analysis and a good P.P.M.(Predictive Preventive Maintenance) scheme to give me lower operating costs and greater reliabilty. They are made in W.A. but with my Special Iintroduct

[biofuel] What is a MIL

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
What is a MIL-Mac Filter and how does it work? A MIL-MAC By-pass filter is a filter that is fitted in addition to the standard full flow filter and continuously taking approx 10% of the oil flow uses Ultra Fine filtration employing depth filtration with 130 x the filtration to remove the conta

[biofuel] By-pass Filters v Factory Full Flow Filters

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
By-pass Filters vs Factory Full Flow Filters Many Factory Full Flow Filters including popular and well known brands are only designed to remove the larger particles. A filter that removes particles 3/4 the size will reduce engine wear by 50%. FACTS * Although many manufacturers claim remo

Re: [biofuel] Politics and rude behavior

2001-05-19 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Cornelius >Hey guys, why the grief? I don't like the idea that only the liberal view >point is acceptable in this discussion group I also don't like that idea. If anybody thinks that they've got it wrong. >but what really upsets me is >that we waste so much air time on politics when I want

Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread Keith Addison
Hi John >To the entire group, >It puzzles me as to why personal and vindictive attacks have to be >perpetrated using this forum. I joined it so I can learn all about >biodiesel and how to make it, plus keep up with developments on a global >scale. >Can anyone tell me if there is an alternative t

Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread Keith Addison
>To Whom This May Concern, >me thinks you protest too much -- you sniveling socialist pigs! wherefore the >invectives? Even an idiot can sense your political proclivity. When will >you socialists/communists realize that your utopian pursuits are nothing more >than a diabolical scheme that will e

Re: [biofuel] ethanol for older motors

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
Ronald, These work and this is how most commercial anhydrous fuel is made. The grade/size used with ethanol is 3A. Most of the plants are designed in the States by 3 or 4 companies with most of them being made in Brazil by one company largely for cost reasons . This is the most efficien

Re: [biofuel] ethanol for older motors

2001-05-19 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Ronald >Keith, >What do you know about molecular seives? I read an article on the net about >a company who uses the seive to filter all the water out of ethanol after >distillation making it pure 100% 3A zeolite. Wish someone here would give it a try, we've often talked about it. It filters

Re: [biofuel] Why you should fit a MIL

2001-05-19 Thread Barryt
David, I loved your information about the Mil-Mac bypass filter. What you say about engine wear really makes sense. You said in a previous email that it was an Australian product. I'm Australian and I can't locate it. None of the people that I have spoken to are aware of the Mi

Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread John
David, I was a member some time ago, and unsubscribe because I went on leave, re-subscribed when I returned and thought I had subscribed to the wrong group!! David, thanks for your time, I appreciate it John > Welcome to the group you snivelling and whinging Aussie. No > seriously J

Re: [biofuel] Why you should fit a MIL

2001-05-19 Thread John
Do these filters use a toilet roll as an element? John - Original Message - From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 12:54 PM Subject: [biofuel] Why you should fit a MIL > Why you should fit a MIL-MAC in addition to your standard Full Flow Oil Filter >

Re: [biofuel] Leaked memo says GOPers must "Carterize" the Dems to win suppor...

2001-05-19 Thread jgrove5540
Just a comment on the green groups and the result of their phlosophy. As a 50something menber of society, I remember green groups chaining themselves in front of nuclear power plants and new plants in general, now the governor of that great state wants someone-else to polute their state and giv

Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
Hi John, Welcome to the group you snivelling and whinging Aussie. No seriously John welcome and dont leave the group as Steve says. Both Steve and Keith run pretty good sites overall, with access to lots of information and there are lots of good members with some darn good contributi

Re: [biofuel] ethanol for older motors

2001-05-19 Thread ronald miller sr
Keith, What do you know about molecular seives? I read an article on the net about a company who uses the seive to filter all the water out of ethanol after distillation making it pure 100% - Original Message - From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:32

[biofuel] Re: Flaming

2001-05-19 Thread John
Steve, thanks for the encouragement! John - Original Message - From: "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance > don't leave john, winaled will soon be gone! >

Attn: Winaled Re: Jackasses was Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread zh24mij
Hey buddy-up! Explica te! If yer gonna bitch, clip in whatcher bitchin about so we can rip you up when your argument is disproven! -JIM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, sen

Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread Freed
Texas BBQ time? "Kin we hang'em Paw? Huh? You said we could!" "Now Boys, you know yer Maw gets all upset when you go stringin' people up..." Jay in Carson City. Say what now? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > To Whom This May Concern, > me thinks you protest too much -- you sniveling socialist pigs! w

[biofuel] Why you should fit a MIL

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
Why you should fit a MIL-MAC in addition to your standard Full Flow Oil Filter Full Flow FilterMIL-MAC By-pass Oil Filter (Uses SURFACE filtration(Uses DEPTH filtration Uses perforated membranes which ca

Re: Jackasses was Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread winaled
To Whom This May Concern, Me thinks you protest too much -- you sniveling socialist pigs! Wherefore the invectives? Even an idiot can sense your political proclivity. When will you socialists/communists realize that your utopian pursuits are nothing more than a diabolical scheme that will ev

Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread Appal Energy
> To Whom This May Concern, > me thinks you protest too much -- you sniveling socialist pigs! wherefore the > invectives? Even an idiot can sense your political proclivity. When will > you socialists/communists realize that your utopian pursuits are nothing more > than a diabolical scheme that w

Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread steve spence
don't leave john, winaled will soon be gone! Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROT

RE: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread kirk
Every group sooner or later gets a flamer. They lack the intellect to understand any technical discussion so in their adolescent frustration they flame. Ignore them as attention is their motive. Use the delete key. -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May

Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 444

2001-05-19 Thread winaled
In a message dated 5/18/2001 4:57:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Message: 2 > A man after my own heart! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email

Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread John
To the entire group, It puzzles me as to why personal and vindictive attacks have to be perpetrated using this forum. I joined it so I can learn all about biodiesel and how to make it, plus keep up with developments on a global scale. Can anyone tell me if there is an alternative to this group wh

Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread winaled
To Whom This May Concern, me thinks you protest too much -- you sniveling socialist pigs! wherefore the invectives? Even an idiot can sense your political proclivity. When will you socialists/communists realize that your utopian pursuits are nothing more than a diabolical scheme that will eve

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 444

2001-05-19 Thread jerry dycus
Hi David and All, --- "Crabb, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: jerry dycus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Water vs Energy Importance > > Hi All, > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > To whomever this may concern > > > why do I get the feeling that this

[biofuel] Re: MN Way

2001-05-19 Thread David Preskett
Heh . 'Course we'll coalesce. there's a lot of views and technology out there. On your microturbine stuff, it brings to mind something I read once on fluidised bed combustion and the use of these techniques, usualy reserved for big power generation (I mean gigawatts here), for motor cars. I think

Re: Archives - was RE: [biofuel] Diesel survivalist - running on biodiesel

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
Thats not a bad idea. Maybe you can donate the proceeds to the communist party (joke) or to help fund the jtf expedition that this started with. While there may be some junk and a fair amount of irrelevant data there is some very worhwhile info that some people would certainly pay for, even commun

Re: Archives - was RE: [biofuel] Diesel survivalist - running on biodiesel

2001-05-19 Thread steve spence
why not put it all on a cd each year and sell it for a few dollars. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webc

[biofuel] Fw: 2 new items (multifuel burnber, and racor 2 micron heated filter/seperator)

2001-05-19 Thread steve spence
> 1. a multifuel burner, for gaseous or liquid fuels. needs some r&d, but > should work with anything from svo to methane. > http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/multifuelburner.htm > > 2. specs on racor's 2 micron heated filter/water separator. recommended by > racor for svo use. 3.34mg pdf > htt

Re: [biofuel] Re: Misinformation and Scare Tactics

2001-05-19 Thread steve spence
the other alternative was also a spoiled rich kid. what to do? Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.c

Re: [biofuel] Do miles per gallon go down?

2001-05-19 Thread steve spence
although alcohol has about half the heat energy as gasoline, gasoline has some parameters that limit it's efficiency. Gasoline tends to knock(low octane), and the engine has to be detuned because of this. alcohol (high octane, high oxygen) allows high compression, and advanced timing, to bring HP

[biofuel] Re: Politics and rude behavior

2001-05-19 Thread cavm
"As for politics, sir, it is politics and money that run this country and others. The "market" takes considerably too much precedence, while morals, principals, ethics and justice far too often take the back seat or are stuffed in the trunk. To neglect political address is similar to having a hea

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 444

2001-05-19 Thread Crabb, David
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 04:39:39 -0700 (PDT) From: jerry dycus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Water vs Energy Importance Hi All, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > To whomever this may concern > > why do I get the feeling that this forum is an > exch

Re: [biofuel] TDI engines

2001-05-19 Thread steve spence
biodiesel works well in either type engine. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROT

Re: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
Hanns et al, Oil composition is in the article by Mary Enig at: www.apc.org.sg/special.htm . Have quickly scanned it but dont have time to read it. The better source is probably the USDA Nutritional Data Base. B.r., David Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.

[biofuel] Redress to "Politics and rude behavior"

2001-05-19 Thread Appal Energy
> Hey guys, why the grief? I don't like the idea that only the liberal view > point is acceptable in this discussion group but what really upsets me is > that we waste so much air time on politics when I want to learn about fuels. > > I disagree with much of the political liberal view point expre

Re: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
Hanns, See below B.r., David - Original Message - From: Hanns B. Wetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 1:06 AM Subject: RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow > David, > > See leegerry's message. (am using Microsoft Outlook for my email and

[biofuel] Politics and rude behavior

2001-05-19 Thread cavm
Hey guys, why the grief? I don't like the idea that only the liberal view point is acceptable in this discussion group but what really upsets me is that we waste so much air time on politics when I want to learn about fuels. I disagree with much of the political liberal view point expressed he

RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-19 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC) Subject: RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow According to our yield tables, by the way, coconut and oil palm are the two highest producers: Crop - kg oil/ha

RE: Jackasses was Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC) Subject: RE: Jackasses was Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance LOL Well said Todd Another conservative old fart Kirk >>> I enjoyed it as well. >>> Yet another COF. >>>

[biofuel] Re: Some Answers/ Slight Rant

2001-05-19 Thread k5farms
If Yall > know where I might find a used centurfuge designed > for contiuos operation. I'd > appreciate the tip. > Pekan farmer?, Wharton? http://www.centrifuge.com/ http://www.centrifugetech.com/ Centrifuge Technology Inc. 6722 Calle Lozano Houston, TX 77041 (713) 680-3005 Phone (7

[biofuel] EREN Network News -- 5/18/01 -- Special Edition on National Energy Policy

2001-05-19 Thread Kevin Eber
= EREN NETWORK NEWS -- May 18, 2001 A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy Network (EREN). = Special Edition on

RE: [biofuel] Do miles per gallon go down?

2001-05-19 Thread kirk
A gallon of alcohol is less dense, contains less C and H which are the energy source to heat the air. The alcohol has a high octane rating so you can get good gas mileage per BTU but requires raising the compression ratio. Hydrogen bleed and rejetting is something you might look at with the engine

RE: Jackasses was Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread kirk
LOL Well said Todd Another conservative old fart Kirk -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:33 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jackasses was Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance - Original Me

[biofuel] Some Answers/ Slight Rant

2001-05-19 Thread Clayton T
Cordain and biofuels, Please forgive my lag at responding. I've been working with a patent Attorney to get it Patent pending. So I can discuss it more freely. I would like to license it and also use the process to make my own fuel here in Texas. Right now its still on the drawing board, a few en