From Dick Carlstein:
>From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: rethinking economy of scale...Digest Number 491
>
>*i knew it, i knew it !!!
No big prediction, that, Dick.
>should learn to keep my mouth shut... ah, well,
>the harm is now done, so i guess i'll just have to add some
"Gary and Jos Kimlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I don't want to get in this loop, far too entertaining, but: In Queensland's
>brigalow (nitrogen fixer)belt Farmers clear, and burn, say 100 acres then
>cultivate wheat for a couple of seasons, often to replace harvesters or
>other capital equipm
"Gary and Jos Kimlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Increases in grain production by breeding, irrigation and fertiliser have
>got us ahead in capacity versus demand for the time being. Further increases
>are subject to diminished return on research dollars, in addition the funds
>for such research
SUVs in the News
Despite extensive coverage of the Ford Explorer/Firestone Tire
fiasco, a substantial amount of recent news coverage about SUVs has
focused on hybrid electric vehicles and the issue of fuel efficiency.
Meanwhile, news coverage of hybrid electric vehicles in general is on
the ri
"kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>evaporate water when all NaCl is converted.
>a thin electroplate of platinum on copper is a good all around electrode.
>Only a few pennies worth of platinum used.
>I think commercially they use graphite or lead-- Nickel also comes to mind.
>Chemistry is an inter
"Gary and Jos Kimlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My wife is studying for a master in Sustainable Agriculture, I'm a little
>selective in what I read on the subject and so we often argue about such
>matters.
>I tutor OS students in critical reading (many are trained to believe
>everything that
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I am planning on starting up a small still [10 gal/day
to start] for my own experimental fuel purposes. Could
anyone supply me with the form number I need to get a
small fuel ethanol distiller's license from the BATF?
I will probably start work before I actually get the
license but I do intend to
Martin:
Check out
http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/5000.htm#alcohol
Please do keep the list informed on your progress, particularly
in light of your desire to be totally legal. I understand your
distillation operation cannot be located anywhere on a residential
property (including yard, garage, s
>Martin:
>
>Check out
>
>http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/5000.htm#alcohol
>
BTW, the form you want is 5110.74
Sec. 19.910 Application for permit required.
Any person wishing to establish an alcohol fuel plant shall first make
application for and obtain an alcohol fuel producer's permit. The
appli
I believe there is an exemption for less than 10,000 gallons per year. If
that applies to you, you might want to take advantage of it.
Craig
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From: Ken Provost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:43 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: [biofuel] Still start-up
>
Thank you
I will have to call the nearest office I suppose, form
5110.74 is not on the web page.
-Martin Klingensmith
--- Ken Provost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Martin:
> >
> >Check out
> >
> >http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/5000.htm#alcohol
> >
>
> BTW, the form you want is 5110.74
>
> Sec.
OK. Have to finish my paper "Automotive Alternator as a Windpower Resource"
first.
Auto alternator will work well if you replace the regulator and place diodes
external to unit.
I think if people knew how inexpensive bleach etc is they would be annoyed.
The container costs more than the product f
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1382000/1382259.stm
Sixteen people are now known to have died in devastating floods which hit the
US states of Texas and Louisiana on Friday and Saturday. Houston, the biggest
Texas city has been worst hit. The authorities say at least
Interesting title Ray. But is it climate or just weather? Long range
weather forcasters have predicted many significant weather events
based on observed solar cycles. The variation in solar energy
reaching earth is significant and can cause variations in surface
temperatures that must have pro
the exemption is that for on site use, the fuel does not have to be
denatured. reporting is less stringent as well.
Steve Spence
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they will refer you to the Ohio office. it's pretty easy to get licensed as
a "small fuel producer".
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I missed a raft of posts as I changed from direct email to browsing-
sorry about that.
I agree that there is a positive correlation between increased
production and increased marginalisation etc. That it is a causal
effect is a large step, I'll debate that point when you present
something to d
I'm not defending them, just making the point that in the struggle to
make ends meet, people in developed countries will destroy the
resource for short term survival.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Gary and Jos Kimlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I do
I hear the arguments, but where they lack a logical build up that can
be followed I treat them as opinion.
You write as if the green revolution didn't deliver any food to people
(individuals) who were hungry or who would have otherwise died of
starvation related disease. The world population has
>Thank you
>I will have to call the nearest office I suppose, form
>5110.74 is not on the web page.
>-Martin Klingensmith
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a week or so ago i remember reading about some guy who
was retrofitting his diesel jetta with some sort of an
intank heater. why is this necessary?? a month or so
ago i asked if biodiesel congealed at lower
temperatures, but i dont remember getting an answer.
If it is true that biodiesel congea
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>Indeed the failure of
>ancient agricultural systems that persisted up to a thousand years
>appears to be linked to natural? climate change. Check out the little
>ice age for example.
http://soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/010119lowdermilk.usda/cls.html
Lowdermilk: Conqu
no modifications are needed for biodiesel. the heated second tank was for
running vegetable oil.
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Maybe some of the more experienced guys could give you specific information
on congealing. However I have made small batches of quarts gars, and cooled
them down to about five degrees Celsius with no congealing problems,
however the product was a little cloudy. The only reason that I could guess
Corrections, SVO becomes more viscous under cold temperatures.
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Hi Martin,
I received my packet not long ago from the B.A.T.F. the form you need is
"ATF F %110.74 (2/90). This is an application for a permit NOT A PERMIT. The
address is "National revenue Center Room 8002 Federal Office Building 550
Main Street, Cincinnati, Ohio 45202. I will try to find the pho
Martin,
For still plans I could suggest that you modify a Nixon-Stone still.
http://www.gin-vodka.com
See the photos section (page 1) at my site,
http://www.geocities.com/kiwi_distiller for a couple of examples/versions
of it.
To get the purity, you will require a tall, well-packed column, and
O.K. so my digital PH meter doesn't do a great job of measuring
the endpoint of my titration of the WVO to determine the amount
of lye I need to put in the reaction.
I have taken the advice of others and tried to find Yellow
Phenothaline (sp). I called 12 Pool supply houses today and no one
had he
I'm not sure about this but I believe the fine print says "proof gallons"
as wine is measured. There is a formula they have.
Ron
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From: cpech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [biofuel] Still start-up
> I believe there is a
I've been to the ATF page a dozen times and I don't
see form 5110.74 if that's what I need :)
Well the still will be located on
commercial/industrial land afaik, if not then I
suppose I won't be too legal.. the police aren't that
nosy around here.
But being legal is the way to get ahead without t
how is it that a car can run on straight vegatable
oil?? is there some sort of chemical process that goes
on in the tank?? how does it combust?
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Steve,
Does the federal permit over rule the state regulations. They (B.A.T.F.)
told me to check with my state beverage control board about state laws. My
state (Alabama) has stricter regulations than the Feds and they also charge
an annual fee of $100.00. They have a statement in the state code t
It combusts spontaneously due to the high compression of the diesel engine,
the same way that diesel fuel does. Nothing happens in the tank.
Ed B.
www.biofuels.ca
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To:
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:12 PM
Subject: [biofuel] st
Whatever happened to Alek Kac's determination that 6 or 6.25 was just about
right and as close as it gets...and no titration? Sure saves a lot of bother
with unreliable pH readings...
Ed B.
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The text after my "signature" is taken directly off a US Dept. of the
Treasury, BATF guide sheet for alcohol fuel plants. Alcohol fuel plants
generally fall under "small," "medium" and "large."
There are other formalities for Specially Denatured Spirits (SDS) users,
alcohol fuel producers (small
Tony,
What size pot and what size column would one need to produce 5 gallons of
ethanol per day?
Ron Miller
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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:23 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Still plans
> Martin,
>
> Fo
A diesel engine will run on almost anything that will burn...any type
of oil is good, because oil contains more BTUs than gasoline, ethanol, or
benzene. Some industrial diesels run on coal dust, or bunker c, a waste
oil so thick and slimy, that it must be heated in order to make it flow.
Rul
Found Loudermilk can't find the second reference. Loudermilk focuses
on erosion and siltation. Does a good job of promoting soil
conservation. What it demonstrates to me is that since we can now
cultivate the heavy volcanics we should leave the light soils alone.
Sure he discounts climate chang
I reread the Food first stuff and found the same as before:
World hunger is like a beggar looking in the window of a restruant or
Macdonalds. I agree that we need to do something about that. Indeed I
would like that to be my focus.
There is nothing to suggest that slowing the rate of increase i
>Found Loudermilk can't find the second reference. Loudermilk focuses
>on erosion and siltation. Does a good job of promoting soil
>conservation. What it demonstrates to me is
Yeah, well. Leaves out the bits he doesn't like, eh? :-) Unlike you.
It's a classic work of great renown, I guess it'l
I think that the phenol red turns at about PH 7 the Phenothaline
turns at about PH 8 ( I think)so you would need more NaOH to turn the
latter. The Phenol Red may be better to compare oil residue in the
BD. If you treat the titration as a comparsion you should be OK. Use
it to calculate the amo
Hi Simon,
Thank you very much for your persistence in building up this very interesting
and needed site.
I do not know hat kind of formulae you want to apply to your site ?
Is it going to be the site that would enable people in Europe to exchange
information and to
construct their own biodies
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>What size pot and what size column would one need to
>produce 5 gallons of ethanol per day?
It depends on how long you want to spend making that 5 gallons !
eg: my 1380W heating element is well suited to 40 mL/min (0.6 gal/hour), so
that would take you about 8.5 hours to run off 5 gallons. Ho
This is quoted from the "reverse fuel cell" article posted earlier:
"-- dividing hydrogen isotopes to remove deuterium and hyson out of
cooling circuits of nuclear reactors"
what the heck is "hyson?" Has tritium been renamed?
Marc de Piolenc
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