[biofuel] wvo/biodiesel Help

2002-05-21 Thread Patrick McBrady
Does anyone know if there is any equipment and anyone successfully using wvo as feedstock to produce bio diesel in large enough quantities to run any or all of a cities diesel equipment and vehicles? If so who are they and how do I contact them. Thank You Patrick McBrady [Non-text portions

Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
I got an ""Auto-reply from [EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>". :-( Anyway, it said this: 5) If your email is concerned with abuse issues then please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with one of the following specific subject headings if you have received unsolicited emails make the s

Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
>Don't thank me too much, they sent back an email saying that they were working >on the system and to expect problems with their service - sure, so they can't >shut off one guy's email. That's ridiculous - this message going out over and over again every time someone posts? I'll mail them too.

Re: [biofuel] Glitches?

2002-05-21 Thread Appal Energy
Kris, All things are possible. And I put nothing past almost any human any more. Can't say that I'm much help as a virus "officianado." Just keep a good program running any time you're accepting new data, even e-mails, and keep it updated. Anyway, hitting the delete button for these types of in

Re: [biofuel] biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread robert luis rabello
Keith Addison wrote: > Ken wrote: > > >Keith wrote: > > > > > > > >In fact, though, distributed production already exists, in the form > > >of the thousands of people all over the US, and the world, who are > > >making their own biodiesel. Distributed distribution though, that's > > >another qu

Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2002-05-21 Thread Martin Klingensmith
Don't thank me too much, they sent back an email saying that they were working on the system and to expect problems with their service - sure, so they can't shut off one guy's email. --- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thankyou Martin! > > Keith > = -Martin Klingensmith http://

Re: [biofuel] Glitches?

2002-05-21 Thread Kris Book
Todd, I've also been having lots of wierd stuff happening to my e-mail lately. Maybe one of the pro-nukers from the EnergyOptions list got revenge on us for telling everyone what's going with Nuke Energy. Somehow my whole e-mail and Internet connection disappeared from my computer last week. Af

Re: [biofuel] Glitches?

2002-05-21 Thread Appal Energy
Keith, Elsevier's "feedback" page is active now. As these instances don't appear to be a virus, or at least don't appear so from here, I would sway more towards thinking its being activated elsewhere...of course...you guessed it...either intentionally or not. The only real way to track it is co

Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Thankyou Martin! Keith >Hello, >I am a member of a discussion mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Many of the members have gotten messages that: ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Has a full mailbox and cannot accept any more emails. Could you do >something to >fix this? We would appreciate it, thank you. > >

Re: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Ed Beggs wrote: >"From a historical perspective, milkweed pods were gathered from the wild, >and the floss was extracted and used as fill for life jackets during World >War II. After the War, these efforts were abandoned. Standard Oil of Ohio >became involved with milkweed in the late 1970s. Nobe

Re: [biofuel] ethonal from cellulose for the hobbyist

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
>I've seen a lot on the list lately about ethanol from cellulose. Is >it something the backyard hobbyist can do? > >Ben Hello Ben No. Or at least not yet. See: Ethanol from cellulose http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_link.html#cellulose Best Keith Yahoo! Groups Sp

Re: [biofuel] Glitches?

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
>Keith, > >I've received a half a dozen messages from Lyrus ListManager in >the past week saying that I'm already a list member - to what I >don't know as I've not upped or re-upped on anything in months >save for the Bio-Biz list at Yahoo last week. > >Gives me an "unsubscribe" email addy at >[EM

Re: [biofuel] truck question

2002-05-21 Thread bob di falco
Martin, i clicked your below url, read index for furnace stuff i would like to know if furnace cement would work on sealing leak at gasket and connector from exhaust pipe, both ends, i.e., gasket leaks where mani comes off the engine and or where it ends into a one pipe my reasoning is t

Re: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread Ken Provost
Ed Beggs writes: >A weed, you say? Something very hardy? > >Ironically, agribusiness itself may have supplied the answer for this one. > >GM Canola is now appearing as a weed. It is resistant to certain herbicides >(it was designed that way, after all), it is now known to be capable of >having "g

Re: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
A weed, you say? Something very hardy? Ironically, agribusiness itself may have supplied the answer for this one. GM Canola is now appearing as a weed. It is resistant to certain herbicides (it was designed that way, after all), it is now known to be capable of having "gene stacking" occur, and

Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2002-05-21 Thread Appal Energy
Martin, Did the same exercise here. Got a reply directing complaints to specific departments. Resubmitted to their "virus" department. We'll see. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Martin Klingensmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002

Re: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Pack your bags. ;-) http://www.goodnewsindia.com/Pages/content/discovery/honge.html Regards, Edward Beggs, BES, MSc www.biofuels.ca on 5/21/02 1:53 PM, Ken Provost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ed Beggs wrote: > >> Depends on the region. For where? > > > in response to > > >> >>

[biofuel] ethonal from cellulose for the hobbyist

2002-05-21 Thread benlf
I've seen a lot on the list lately about ethanol from cellulose. Is it something the backyard hobbyist can do? Ben Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/T

Re: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread Ken Provost
Ed Beggs wrote: >Depends on the region. For where? in response to > >on 5/21/02 11:27 AM, Ken Provost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Wouldn't it be nice if there was a widely distributed oil crop that was > >of little food use, so that good quality oil could be had in small >quantities >

[biofuel] (unknown)

2002-05-21 Thread Martin Klingensmith
Hello, I am a member of a discussion mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many of the members have gotten messages that: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Has a full mailbox and cannot accept any more emails. Could you do something to fix this? We would appreciate it, thank you. = -Martin Klingensmith http://

Re: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread Appal Energy
U. Cannabis? It seems to do quite well all by its lonesome. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Ken Provost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps > Motie writes: > > >I think home brewers have a distinc

Re: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
"From a historical perspective, milkweed pods were gathered from the wild, and the floss was extracted and used as fill for life jackets during World War II. After the War, these efforts were abandoned. Standard Oil of Ohio became involved with milkweed in the late 1970s. Nobel Laureate, Melvin C

Re: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
The oil sells for a very high price. Too high value for fuel. Regards, Edward Beggs, BES, MSc www.biofuels.ca on 5/21/02 12:44 PM, kirk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I live in Montana. It grows in weed patches, turned soil, burned areas, > roadsides etc. > You should be able to find lo

RE: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread kirk
I live in Montana. It grows in weed patches, turned soil, burned areas, roadsides etc. You should be able to find lots of info on web. Some people cultivate it for the pods. -Original Message- From: Shukrainternationals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 1:31 PM To: bi

Re: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread Shukrainternationals
Where does it grow? - Original Message - From: "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 3:24 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps > Milkweed is one I remember. Grows pretty well some places. > > Kirk > > -Original Message- > From: Harmon Seaver [

Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Re: [vegoil-diesel] WVO filtering tips?

2002-05-21 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
10-30 range is what I have been told, for good restaurant fryer oil cones. Regards, Edward Beggs, BES, MSc www.biofuels.ca on 5/21/02 12:17 PM, Hall, Edward C. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does anyone know what regular off the shelf commercial paper filter cones > are rated at filter wi

RE: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread kirk
Milkweed is one I remember. Grows pretty well some places. Kirk -Original Message- From: Harmon Seaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:46 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 11:27:27AM -0700, Ke

RE: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Re: [vegoil-diesel] WVO filtering tips?

2002-05-21 Thread Hall, Edward C.
Does anyone know what regular off the shelf commercial paper filter cones are rated at filter wise (how many micron)? Thanks, Ed -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:11 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.c

[biofuel] RE: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Re: [vegoil-diesel] WVO filtering tips?

2002-05-21 Thread Hall, Edward C.
Does anyone know what regular off the shelf commercial paper filter cones are rated at filter wise (how many micron)? Thanks, Ed -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:11 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.c

Re: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 11:27:27AM -0700, Ken Provost wrote: > Economics get all counter-intuitive when a resource is widely/thinly > distributed -- sunlight is another great example. What's interesting > about vegoil is that it starts out very concentrated and expensive, and > ends up widely dist

Re: [biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Depends on the region. For where? Regards, Edward Beggs, BES, MSc www.biofuels.ca on 5/21/02 11:27 AM, Ken Provost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Motie writes: > >> I think home brewers have a distinct advantage over commercial-level >> volumes, because home facilities can use wasteprodu

Re: [biofuel] truck question

2002-05-21 Thread Martin Klingensmith
It can be done, it's a matter of how much work (and/or money) you have. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Any chance of putting the Duramax in 3/4 ton Avalanche in the > future? Also, have any test been done with Biodiesel on the > Duramax? = -Martin Klingensmith http://archive.nnytech.net/

[biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread Ken Provost
Motie writes: >I think home brewers have a distinct advantage over commercial-level >volumes, because home facilities can use wasteproducts, and perhaps >even get paid for disposal. > How much would it cost you to hire someone to make Oil pickups for a >plant to produce 1000 gallons/day? How far

Re: [biofuel] Glitches?

2002-05-21 Thread Appal Energy
Count me in on the "john.rogers9" glitch. It just came through a few moments ago. Todd - Original Message - From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 1:18 PM Subject: [biofuel] Glitches? > Hi all > > Is anyone else getting posts returned because of this:

Re: [biofuel] Glitches?

2002-05-21 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:18 Subject: [biofuel] Glitches? > Hi all > > Is anyone else getting posts returned because of this: > > > The user(s) account is temporarily over quota. > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've

Re: [biofuel] Glitches?

2002-05-21 Thread Appal Energy
Keith, I've received a half a dozen messages from Lyrus ListManager in the past week saying that I'm already a list member - to what I don't know as I've not upped or re-upped on anything in months save for the Bio-Biz list at Yahoo last week. Gives me an "unsubscribe" email addy at [EMAIL PROTE

[biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Eric Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I once read that the price of producing biodiesel is proportional to the > ammount being produced, that is to say its not particularly cost > prohibitive to produce 500 gallons vs 5 million gallons. > I was discussing Biodiesel

[biofuel] Glitches?

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hi all Is anyone else getting posts returned because of this: > The user(s) account is temporarily over quota. > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> john.rogers9 is not a member of this list, by the way. I don't know what to do about it. Another oddity - both Midori and I have been getting strange messages

[biofuels-biz] Fwd: Re: [vegoil-diesel] WVO filtering tips?

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Very nice post from Ed Beggs to the vegoil-diesel group on filtering WVO. Enjoy! Best Keith >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: "Neoteric Biofuels Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:20:56 -0700 >Subject: Re: [vegoil-diesel] WVO filtering tips? >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >A few

[biofuel] Fwd: Re: [vegoil-diesel] WVO filtering tips?

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Very nice post from Ed Beggs to the vegoil-diesel group on filtering WVO. Enjoy! Best Keith >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: "Neoteric Biofuels Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:20:56 -0700 >Subject: Re: [vegoil-diesel] WVO filtering tips? >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >A few

Re: [biofuel] biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Ken wrote: >Keith wrote: > > > > >In fact, though, distributed production already exists, in the form > >of the thousands of people all over the US, and the world, who are > >making their own biodiesel. Distributed distribution though, that's > >another question. Very important one. > >Out of cur

Re: [biofuel] Question about Refining Crude to Diesel

2002-05-21 Thread MH
MH wrote: > I think i understand what you mean and im not necessarily focusing > on efficiency of IC engines via a measure of Btu to mpg or km/l. > What I mean is stationary engines can be controlled to burn > fuel at maximum engine/fuel efficiency where as mobile system > temperatures very

Re: [biofuel] biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread Ken Provost
Keith wrote: > >In fact, though, distributed production already exists, in the form >of the thousands of people all over the US, and the world, who are >making their own biodiesel. Distributed distribution though, that's >another question. Very important one. Out of curiosity, does anyone know t

Re: [biofuels-biz] VEG-Therm Sale almost over!

2002-05-21 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
A cheque is fine in Australian dollars. We need $61 US equivalent, so at today's price that is $110 Australian dollars. Payable to the company. Mail to: Neoteric Biofuels Inc. PO Box 26068 Westbank, BC, Canada V4T2G3 Regards, Edward Beggs, BES, MSc www.biofuels.ca on 5/16/02 6:46 AM, Stev

[biofuel] VT Alternative Energy Festival needs your help!

2002-05-21 Thread teampondaj
Hi All, We need help postering in your area for the Vermont Alternative Energy Festival (www.vaef.com). The festival is the weekend of July 26-28, 2002. If you can help us with posters and want a free ticket please email me directly for details. Thanks for the help! j

Re: [biofuel] biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Eric >I once read that the price of producing biodiesel is proportional to the >ammount being produced, that is to say its not particularly cost >prohibitive to produce 500 gallons vs 5 million gallons. > >If this is true, how about distributed production? We often discuss that here - local p

Re: [biofuel] biodiesel processor manufactures?

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
>does anybody know of a source for the processor already made? > tia, japedtdi > Not for small ones, but if that's what you want drop me a line offlist, I may know someone who can help. There are some designs here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_simon.ht

Re: [biofuel] biodiesel processor manufactures?

2002-05-21 Thread Raffingora Garage
- Original Message - DEAR SIR Processing Plants for Bio-diesel are available in Africa through myself.I need to know how many liters you want to produce per day.The plants start at nine thousand litrs per day(9000Lt) Please contact me with your requierment. Regards Chris Malan. From: jape3

Re: [biofuel] truck question

2002-05-21 Thread mark
Any chance of putting the Duramax in 3/4 ton Avalanche in the future? Also, have any test been done with Biodiesel on the Duramax? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/