10,000 years or so of Inuit culture, without fruit carted in from
California, or plastics or any other crap would seem to prove this idea
rather wrong.
Massive survival emergencies? Only for those living in t-shirts and Levis
in balloon framed houses, for whom it is a major crisis if the WWF ch
We have tested 100% soy in a boiler...it works. Richard, Combustion
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Just a general question. Could biofuel be used for home heating fuel? I don't
have a diesel automobile. Gareth
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this is a waste of time and energy. take off your clothes and look in the
mirror. nature designed us without fur, well most of us, and we were never
intended to live in cold zones. cold zones create for humans massive
survival emergencies, as well as massive energy expenditures to try and be
co
amen, thank you for expressing...
nunativs?!?
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From: "Curtis Sakima" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:53 AM
Subject: [biofuel] Mass Production Was: The Dangers of Nanotech Particles
> A comment which this reminds me of
>
> Someone a long ti
god what an enourmous waste of fuel and resource, sorry...
nunativs?!?
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From: "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Used lubricants as fuel?
> Christopher,
>We are using the genset to power our house a
A short article about intercropped
green manure/cover crops (gm/cc's)
with corn (maize) and sorghum
taking place in Latin America.
No-till, Permanent Bed Farming
INCREASE YIELDS WITH GREEN MANURE AND COVER CROPS
by KEN HARGESHEIMER
July/August 2002
Countryside magazine
A Small Stock Jou
For Ken and others who seem to have some anthropological approach and
some interest in the relation of human life to the land and to
technology development (or lack thereof) this PBS series amounts to
putting some 21st century families out on the frontier in
historically-researched situations and
better not charge your electric car with a wind or pv source ... :-)
in order to charge me road tax, one would have to determine how much svo I
use ..
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From: "manickh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 12:49 AM
Subject: [biofuels-biz] Ethanol driven cars
> Can a petrol car be modified to run on 90% ethanol without modifying
> compression ratio?
yes, but you are missing out on some great power.
Keith,
If we could get rid of the world's nastiest disease(greed),
then everything you wrote about restoring this planet's
natural beuaty and how to make all agriculture sustainable
is right on the money and could be accomplished with a
little cooperation. But, I don't think we can get there
from
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back at a later date.
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I agree with your take that Hydrogen cannot be depleted in the sense
of other fuels that we discuss. The question is whether the Hydrogen,
once separated from other elements, being extremely light, would float
away from the Earth's gravitational pull. This happens, I am led to
understand, with t
Hey Keith, am I wrong in supposing that if the finished product were
so expensive because it had to be hauled by truck that it would then
be much cheaper to carry the alchol by tank car where an entire train
could be made up of just tankers filled with the entire product.
Or better yet, if th
womplex_oo1 wrote:
>Ok, suppose I'm driving down the road in my new Merlin Roadster with
>a custom ethanol-conversion. I'm not on the road very long before I
>get pulled over by a curious police officer. He walks up alongside
>gawking at the sporty lines, and really intending to ask what the
>h
Hello Curtis
>A comment which this reminds me of
>
>Someone a long time ago made a comment to me that "the
>biggest problem with food production ... is MAN".
>That's right ... us.
Disagree - NO traditional farming system does it that way. That only
happens when food production gets industri
Ok, suppose I'm driving down the road in my new Merlin Roadster with
a custom ethanol-conversion. I'm not on the road very long before I
get pulled over by a curious police officer. He walks up alongside
gawking at the sporty lines, and really intending to ask what the
heck kind of car is TH
I've had a difficult time following your line of
thinking ... but that's just me.
But judging from the subject line - H2 depletion I'll
only say that I'm not sure how H2 would be "depleted".
H2 is a CARRIER of energy ... and is not like fossil
fuels (which is extracted, burned, used up and is
go
Curtis Sakima wrote:
>
> Contrast that with how things are in the wild.
> Everything is "naturally diversified". A corn here ..
> and a grass there. A grasshopper whose favorite is
> corn eats that stalk of corn ... but has a heck of a
> time finding the next stalk. And thus is not so
> luc
A comment which this reminds me of
Someone a long time ago made a comment to me that "the
biggest problem with food production ... is MAN".
That's right ... us.
'Cause every time we want to get into food production,
PROFIT is the motive. And that causes us to set aside
a section of land /
Thanks for the tip on the book, I will be reading it. I picked my land
by what 'weeds' were growing, lots of clover. I do my landscaping with
what grows wild, trumpet vines, passion flower vines, morning glories
and of course dewberries and wild grapes. It is amazing how little time
I have
That's fine. I thought Keith quoted an interesting passage. If it
was patronizing in its attitude toward the little guys, sort of in the
manner of a 50's reel you might see in high school I guess, it was
also interestingly on-the-mark in its enviro concern, thus I guess you
could say it had "we
Christopher,
We are using the genset to power our house and barn. It runs
24-7 with short shutdowns to check oil, water and to do a quick lookover
for any problems. We run 3 window a/c units. One is 18,000 btu the other 2
are 5000 btu. The rest of the load is your usual lights and
sorry about that, and the comments probably wouldn't have bothered me
except I just finished listening to a person telling me how rich farmers
are and how we don't care about the environment. I need a thicker skin,
sometimes.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
>
> Just for the brief record here: It wa
>If you want the farmers led, do so. Buy your food direct from the farm.
> Only buy from farms that practice environmentally sound and
>sustainable practices. Go out and look at the farm. Many of us are
>trying to survive, doing it right and we need your help. The prices in
>the store include
Hello Ed
>Why do they bother, these Japanese companies? Don't they know lip service is
>all that's needed? "Spin", and press releases? Bit of greenwash here and
>there? The next quarterly profit report is the only thing to think about,
>don't they know that?
Well, there's the rest of the world,
>Buy local and buy healthy food.
>Rant off.
>Kim
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >Yes, they were there. One example: "Rebuilding a piece of sloping
>> >land may not be as simple or as thrilling as growing and finishing a
>> >prize-winning steer or hog, but rare is the farm lad who would not be
>
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As Sweden had forest management during 150 years, they also had
working fish management for dam project during 50 years.
The ironic in this, is that fish farms at the end posed the largest
threat ever to the wild salmon population. Some years ago it was
a virus spreading in the farmed populatio
>>Hydrogen: In addition to the
>>I-don't-want-my-house-or-car-powered-by-flammable-rocket-fuel usual
>>objections, I've not seen anyone except one or two people take
>>seriously the possibility that hydrogen depletion from the Earth's
>>system might be a problem.
>
>I've also thought of that, and
Farm gate food. Yep.
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on 7/29/02 10:12 AM, Kim & Garth Travis at [EMAIL PRO
If you want the farmers led, do so. Buy your food direct from the farm.
Only buy from farms that practice environmentally sound and
sustainable practices. Go out and look at the farm. Many of us are
trying to survive, doing it right and we need your help. The prices in
the store include
>>I've seen environmentalists get fairly nasty in describing dams, now
>>that this problem has become more widely appreciated. I'm not sure
>>they were there, exercising the precautionary principle, when dams
>>were less-well-developed.
>
>Yes, they were there. One example: "Rebuilding a piece of
I suspect that everyone already knows that the cheapest form of H comes from
Natural Gas. Having done the economics of using H as a fuel source for
vehicles since 1984, we may be a ways off from realizing H fueled vehicles.
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The Tesla type turbines have been used for years, but have not been in the
spotlight that often. This is probably due to the unorthadox design compared
to the 'fan' type of turbine that people normaly think of.
Greg H.
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From: "kris book" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent
Why do they bother, these Japanese companies? Don't they know lip service is
all that's needed? "Spin", and press releases? Bit of greenwash here and
there? The next quarterly profit report is the only thing to think about,
don't they know that?
"People don't want those, and there is no money i
Why do they bother, these Japanese companies? Don't they know lip service is
all that's needed? "Spin", and press releases? Bit of greenwash here and
there? The next quarterly profit report is the only thing to think about,
don't they know that?
"People don't want those, and there is no money i
And what are the carrier fuels for this hydrogen? And what is the
line of succession of these fuels to eventually achieve a true
level of zero emissions from cradle to grave? And what is the
time line of succession?
Todd Swearingen
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From: kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Rick Smith
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 6:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [h2view] AA Dialog on The Seven Year Wait; Let's Use the Internal
Combustion Engine
The following thoughts are offered to start a
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/17063/story.htm
Planet Ark :
European trade in ultra-clean diesel takes off
UK: July 29, 2002
LONDON - European oil products traders are starting to actively buy
and sell ultra-clean, sulphur-free diesel, which will soon become the
norm in Ger
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/17063/story.htm
Planet Ark :
European trade in ultra-clean diesel takes off
UK: July 29, 2002
LONDON - European oil products traders are starting to actively buy
and sell ultra-clean, sulphur-free diesel, which will soon become the
norm in Ger
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/17054/story.htm
Planet Ark :
Senator blocks US 'triple subsidy' for ethanol
USA: July 29, 2002
WASHINGTON - Ethanol does not need a "triple subsidy," California
Sen. Dianne Feinstein argued in staving off a proposal to give Archer
Daniels Mid
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/17054/story.htm
Planet Ark :
Senator blocks US 'triple subsidy' for ethanol
USA: July 29, 2002
WASHINGTON - Ethanol does not need a "triple subsidy," California
Sen. Dianne Feinstein argued in staving off a proposal to give Archer
Daniels Mid
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/17050/story.htm
Planet Ark :
Toyota to double hybrid vehicle lineup by 03 - paper
JAPAN: July 29, 2002
NEW YORK - Toyota Motor Corp plans to double the number of its
eco-friendly hybrid models to six by the end of 2003 to cement its
lead in th
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Planet Ark :
Toyota to double hybrid vehicle lineup by 03 - paper
JAPAN: July 29, 2002
NEW YORK - Toyota Motor Corp plans to double the number of its
eco-friendly hybrid models to six by the end of 2003 to cement its
lead in th
Who remembers the "King Midget"
When I was a kid reading comic books there was always a page at the
back that advertised jet engines for sale for 3.99 (I bought 2), one-
way glass for $2.99 (Bought that too) and the Mighty Midget/King
Midget car (Never bought one of them unfortunatly.)
"About
Andy, what sort of power output do you get per liter or gallon of fuel
with your setup? Do you mind if I ask how you are using it? I really
fell in love the utterpower website . . . the idea of generators that
can be for the most part maintained indefinitely by the user in the
field is very ap
Murdoch wrote:
> >That's right. I said I don't know of any examples of
> >environmentalists ignoring precautionary principles and glossing over
> >the dangers of new technologies, as you indicated. Do you have any
> >such examples?
>
>In the cases of the new allegedly environmentally better techn
Chrysler did a lot of experimenting with turbine engines. The first
chrysler turbine car was a 54 plymouth sport coupe with a 100hp
turbine that achieved 13 MPG on any fuel and took about 11 seconds
for the engine to reach top speed.
Chrysler continued to experiment with turbines, and were e
Prairie Dog wrote:
>
> I've seen numerous vehicles mentioned lately (current or old-timey) that had
> wonderful efficiency ratings. I wonder if we couldn't assemble a collage of
> info on these vehicles, and hopefully glean some usable info on them that
> might result in higher MPG ratings nowa
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