[biofuel] Geologist way..

Hello.. I am a geologist. Now a manager at a plastic kitchen and bath wares producing factory. Bored of city life... Like land rovers very much.. I wanna go away from the city and produce biodiesel, teach it to villagers, buy a land rover and help people. By the time, I am living far away from

Re: [biofuel] Where?

You have obviously seen my balding pate on my mug shot, and knew you could afford the free haircut. As for the suit, I want one just like Robert Crumb's suit. Actually, I want the hat, too. For details see: http://www.crumbmuseum.com/signed.html Ed on 8/16/02 7:19 PM, Appal Energy at [EM

Re: [biofuel] Where?

Ed, I guess we're just going to have to get you a haircut, a suit and some air time to debunk all those over funded and under thought out studies. Cheap suit? Five bucks. Hair cut? Gratis. De-myth-tisizer? Priceless. Todd - Original Message - From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc. <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [biofuel] Where?

"Only for the chosen ones like you, Todd, who truly understand." -Buck R. ;-) Anyway, glad ya got the "nu-cu-lar " joke. Trouble is, that joke is showing up in ads again - this time its the solution to global warming and climate change. Well, maybe in a roundabout way, they're right. Oh, an

[biofuel] "Fire sale" on forklift batteries - use for electric vehicle, photovoltaic & other home power apps

I found such a great one-time deal on some truly awesome batteries that I wanted to share it with others who might be able to benefit. EPIK Communications, a communications company based in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, has to sell 130 forklift batteries during the next 50 days, since the building the

Re: [biofuel] Where?

Does that also come with First Class tickets on biodiesel rockets to the outer rim of the universe? Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Biofuel-JTF Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Where? > > If it works

Re: [biofuel] Where?

If it works as planned, biodiesel will be too cheap to meter. Edward Beggs, BES, MSc Neoteric Biofuels Inc. Located in the Okanagan Valley, British Columbia, Canada 1-250-768-3169 Fax: 1-250-768-3118 Toll-Free (Canada/USA): 1-866-768-3169 http://www.biofuels.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 8/16/02 8

Re: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment?

The end of the human race will be that we eventually die of civilization." Ralph Waldo Emerson - Original Message - From: kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:41 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment? [snip] > As Freud said, civilization

Re: [biofuel] Green Waste to Biodiesel

Uhh...Que es "green waste?" Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Tim Roberts-Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:44 AM Subject: [biofuel] Green Waste to Biodiesel > Hi there, > I would be extremely grateful if anyone out there knows of a proce

Re: [biofuel] Re: Making biodiesel

Scott, I know it sounds rather curt, but you will necessarily have to start from the ground up, pricing out your materials, feedstocks, collection cost, labor in your area, person hours required per "x" gallons, insurance, rents, etc.. It's easy to get you into the ballpark - ~$0.60 a gallon or

Re: [biofuel] Re: Making biodiesel

>Scott, > >Your cost guestimate on WVO alkyl esters is sufficiently ballpark >when you include labor and rents, perhaps a bit less, but >none-the-less generally accurate. > >Check the Chicago Board of Trade for current oil prices. Start at >$0.15 US per pound and you end up with SVO alkyl esters r

Re: [biofuels-biz] Some essential questions

Hello Glenn That's very interesting. Thankyou. >Hello Keith > >You bring up some interesting points, particularly as relates to >corporations. As stated in your attachment, corporations develop into >separate entities, as if they were a diffferent species. They have developed >an ability to c

RE: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment?

200 years back we were suffering the effects of industrialization. You have to go further back than that. >Many of those diseases had no names or diagnoses until the last few decades. >We do not now very much, if anything, about the history of them, >or if they would have occurred more frequently

[biofuel] Green Waste to Biodiesel

Hi there, I would be extremely grateful if anyone out there knows of a process to create biodiesel from Green Waste. Thanks Tim Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM ---

[biofuel] Re: Making biodiesel

do you have a feel for the percentage each category takes? I am trying to figure out where costs could be cut. Scott --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cost breakdown is generally: > > Payroll > Rents/Mortgage > Property Taxes > Insurances > Maintenance & Re

Re: [biofuel] Re: Making biodiesel

Cost breakdown is generally: Payroll Rents/Mortgage Property Taxes Insurances Maintenance & Repair Utilities Collection Cost (plant specific) Alcohol Caustic Acids Oils (SVO) State & Local Fees NBB fees (on-road fuel only) All costs will be site or geography specific. Todd Swearingen - Ori

[biofuel] Re: Making biodiesel

What is the breakdown of costs here? That is, for a gallon of fuel, where is the money going? Scott --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott, > > Your cost guestimate on WVO alkyl esters is sufficiently ballpark > when you include labor and rents, perhaps a

Re: [biofuel] Where?

>In a message dated 08/16/2002 10:06:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > Biox is there - advanced, continuous process. > > > > http://www.bioxcorp.com > > > > > >Is anyone knowledgeable about this process and what the ramifications are to >small batching. The w

Re: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment?

At 10:25 PM 8/16/2002 +0900, you wrote: >Hello Hakan > > >Keith, > > > >Thank you for a very good piece on the food question. As usual, you > >hit a lot of nails. I do want to add a couple of things and questions, > > > >- During the last 200 years, the average life span for the human > > have g

Re: [biofuels-biz] Some essential questions

Hello Keith You bring up some interesting points, particularly as relates to corporations. As stated in your attachment, corporations develop into separate entities, as if they were a diffferent species. They have developed an ability to control human beings and "have become the dominant sp

Re: [biofuel] Re: Making biodiesel

Scott, Your cost guestimate on WVO alkyl esters is sufficiently ballpark when you include labor and rents, perhaps a bit less, but none-the-less generally accurate. Check the Chicago Board of Trade for current oil prices. Start at $0.15 US per pound and you end up with SVO alkyl esters running a

[biofuel] Re: Making biodiesel

Coming out from lurk-land: I have often wondered how much it would cost to make bio-diesel. The $0.60 / gallon number. Is that based on using WVO? I have often wondered how much it would cost using SVO. Does anyone know how much SVO costs in bulk? That is, how much is a 50 gallon drum of

RE: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment?

>When you eat something and you get mucus, and you can tell because you are >now clearing your throat and have enhanced drainage, why do you eat it >again? Mucus is the reaction to an irritant. >Seems many are oblivious to their body. How can a mucus producing substance >be rationalized as healt

Re: [biofuels-biz] Some essential questions

Hi Todd, Glenn and all Todd wrote: >It's partly that I'm not out to offer fuel to others who might be >easily prodded towards escalating general discourse into a "holy >war," as if there is such a thing as a war that is "holy." >(Again, leave it to humans to justify such a concept.) >But w

Re: [biofuel] Where?

In a message dated 08/16/2002 10:06:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Biox is there - advanced, continuous process. > > http://www.bioxcorp.com > > Is anyone knowledgeable about this process and what the ramifications are to small batching. The web site does n

Re: [biofuels-biz] Some essential questions

Glenn, Sorry if it seems that I might exhibit no pronouncement of deity as fact or any alignment with any singular belief system. It's partly that I'm not out to offer fuel to others who might be easily prodded towards escalating general discourse into a "holy war," as if there is such a thing

Re: [biofuel] Where?

Biox is there - advanced, continuous process. http://www.bioxcorp.com Also we will be displaying cold press, our G3 SVO kit, VEG-Therm, NADI, Canola-based oils, etc. at the Outdoor Farm Show in Woodstock coming up next month if you are interested in that. Our SVO kit allows use of straig

Re: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment?

Hello Hakan >Keith, > >Thank you for a very good piece on the food question. As usual, you >hit a lot of nails. I do want to add a couple of things and questions, > >- During the last 200 years, the average life span for the human > have gone from 35 years to around 80 years in the industrializ

Re: [biofuels-biz] Some essential questions

Hello Glenn I much welcome this discussion here. The context of biofuels promotion and production is most important. If it's just to be a replacement of fossil fuels, business otherwise as usual, we'll gain little, and maybe lose a lot. It should be part of a strategy which avoids or counter-

Re: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment?

Keith's words below are very much in keeping with "The Milk Book" by William Campbell Douglass, MD: http://www.westonaprice.org/book_reviews/milk_book.html That book was a real eye-opener for me when I first read it several years ago! However, I'm sure most of it won't come as a surprise to pe

[biofuel] Where?

Is there a Biodiesel processing facility in Ontario that I could see that uses used fat to make fuel? Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/RN.GAA/FGYolB/TM ---

Re: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment?

I do not consider 5 six ounce portions of meat a week, a highly meat centered diet. I call it balanced. There are major differences between types of meat, such as grassfed vs grain fed, beef vs emu as there are between miracle grow vegetables and organic vegetables. Grass fed milk is a tota

Re: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment?

Keith, Thank you for a very good piece on the food question. As usual, you hit a lot of nails. I do want to add a couple of things and questions, - During the last 200 years, the average life span for the human have gone from 35 years to around 80 years in the industrialized countries and

Re: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment?

>I'm afraid I have pretty much used all my ammunition on this. I'm not >totally convinced myself, frankly. It sounds interesting and plausible, >but if the paucity of information on the web is any indicator (and it >probably is), this is either an area that needs a lot more research, or >zero addi

RE: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment?

> >several pounds of undigested meat > >found in the lower intestinal track and colon of dead meat eaters > >[Western diet meat-eaters who have died] (Diet for a New America, > >John Robbins). > > >Maybe they died because they weren't healthy and digesting their food. >Slow bowels are often a prod

Re: [biofuels-biz] Some essential questions

Todd, Thanks for your response. Glenn Ellis [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/RN.GAA/9bTolB/TM

Re: [biofuels-biz] Proposed Biodiesel Book

on 8/15/02 8:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have seasonal work and often have a bit of a breather in the winter. I'm > thinking of writing a book on biodesel production from waste fryer oil. It > would cover all of the real information I've discovered in the past 5 years

Re: [biofuels-biz] Proposed Biodiesel Book

Tom, I think your idea for a book is very interesting. I am starting a small business called, Organic Power which I plan to focuse on renewable and distributed power generation. I have done some writing and editing most recently "The Power of Extraordinary Listening"

Re: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment?

I'm afraid I have pretty much used all my ammunition on this. I'm not totally convinced myself, frankly. It sounds interesting and plausible, but if the paucity of information on the web is any indicator (and it probably is), this is either an area that needs a lot more research, or zero addit

Re: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment?

>Todd, >I'm really not saying "highly" meat centered diet... I've been through >the >diet gamut, vegetarianism, veganism, raw-foodism, brief flirtation with >fruitarianism, for lots of years (20), . I am worried about the B-12 issue >which seems to be directly related to the ammount of animal

Re: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment?

Meat-eating doesn't need any rationalizing, Todd. Neither does vegetarianism. There are some complexities though, for sure. First, there is no traditional vegetarian society. What that means is that there is no traditional vegetarian agricultural system. It just doesn't work, it's not sustaina

Re: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment?

This "X lbs. of undigested meat in the intestine" sounds like a bit of a "burpin' legend" IMO. FWIW: http://www.snopes2.com/toxins/fecal.htm I have Robbins' book and think there's a lot of good stuff in it, and I also think fasting and cleansing the body can be good for you, but if I do it,

[biofuel] About Vegans geting protien from bacteia

I just asked my wife who is currently a medical student and actually enjoys organic chemistry. The theory definitely holds water when it talks about what we eat affecting the flora in our intestines. However she suspect the theory for the following reason. Our bacteria live in the large intes

RE: [biofuel] Which is better for the environment?

>several pounds of undigested meat >found in the lower intestinal track and colon of dead meat eaters >[Western diet meat-eaters who have died] (Diet for a New America, >John Robbins). Maybe they died because they weren't healthy and digesting their food. Slow bowels are often a product of white