Hello Rick, welcome
Hello all.
First, let me say that this is the most useful newsgroup to which I
have ever subscribed. I
must add that this newsgroup and the journeytoforever web site is
changing my way of life
and how I view motor fuels.
I plan to produce biodiesel sometime in the near
There was a member who posted that there are two SFO stations that are
selling BioFuel.
Do you have pictures of these 2 stations? With the sign that have the
prices for B20 or B100?
Need proof to show major and major pro tem, please send to me.
Any other BioFuel stations? Need photos!
Photo is
I've succeeded and I've failed at making ethanol biodiesel.
I would second what Keith just posted, but suggest that you hang on to that
200 gallon water heater- it'll make a great and (for a homebrewer anyhow)
extremely large biodiesel processor someday, if you decide to work on such
a scale
http://www.pipeline.to/biodiesel/
Steve Spence
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From: Tricia Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
For those of us with more $ than cents (pun intended), look in the Jaguar
showrooms next year for the 2005 S-Type with it's 3.0 liter V6 Diesel.
Mommy, why does that Jag smell like French fries?
http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/yohn
As an aside, Low Sulfur diesel will be showing up
I am beginning a club here at Appalachian State University to make and
distribute Biodiesel to the students and staff. I am interested in using Aleks
Kac's foolproof method from JtF. However, I've been looking around for a
source of Sulphuric acid and the biology dept has quoted me
At $20 a liter you're paying for bureaucracy (and lab grade).
You can get NaOH at most hardware stores and groceries - Red Devil Lye. You
can get KOH in 1-100 pound lots from soap companies on the internet (Rainbow
Meadow, etc), or commercial chemical warehouses.
Sulfuric is available through
Hello all.
First, let me say that this is the most useful newsgroup to which I have ever
subscribed. I
must add that this newsgroup and the journeytoforever web site is changing my
way of life
and how I view motor fuels.
I plan to produce biodiesel sometime in the near future and have
James,
You will find that many people who have never come to the US get their
perceptions of America from watching American television shows. Hows
that for a scary thought. We like them often have misperceptions of
the world. For example, I used to work for an international telecom
forum and
I would argue that the No Fault argument that the insurers sold most
states is absolutely a scam. The argument was that no fault would
reduce or keep rates low if it was the law that everyone be insured.
I think you are right that the courts are part of the problem but not
all of it.
Is she
Sport Utility Vehicle...Neither sporty, nor utilitarian as a prof. of
mine once said...
Ed
On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 08:59 PM, Keith Addison wrote:
Hi Tony
Hey Kieth,
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Hi Tony
Curtis,
Check me if I'm wrong but
Keith,
SNIP
Whatever, it's a recent term, not nearly as old as 4WD vehicles are.
Older than online (or at least than the Web) but less than 20 years
I'd say, and an American term, not in general world use even now.
I think so. When I was in Nice a couple of years back I was discussing
I just realized I didn't make clear what a reprocess test is:
take a liter of your finished fuel, and 'process' it as though it
were new oil and you were making biodiesel out of it- ie, warm it,
and process it with 3.5 g lye and 200 ml methanol.
If it contains unconverted matter- mono and
There was a member who posted that there are two SFO stations that are
selling BioFuel.
Do you have pictures of these 2 stations? With the sign that have the
prices for B20 or B100?
Need proof to show major and major pro tem, please send to me.
Any other BioFuel stations? Need photos!
Photo is
Hi again Tony
Keith,
SNIP
Whatever, it's a recent term, not nearly as old as 4WD vehicles are.
Older than online (or at least than the Web) but less than 20 years
I'd say, and an American term, not in general world use even now.
I think so. When I was in Nice a couple of years back I
someone in some SUV thread wrote:
You should not have to have liability insurance before you get a
vehicle registration you might consider it manditory (I'd buy that)
that you have it before you get a drivers license regardless if you
own a car or not.
td
and it triggered this for me:
this list doesn't send attachments, so we can't send photos via list.
There are lots of biodiesel pumps at various stations around the
country. Look at the National Biodiesel Board website and follow a
bunch of links- see what you can find. Biodiesel Industries is the
company whose fuel is at
SNIP
It had a straight-six engine, big, loads of torque.
Joe might know about this - I think GM (or whatever) used that same
motor for a long time, just kept on developing it. A few years later
I had a 6-cylinder Chevy pick-up for awhile, nice beast, and the
motor seemed basically the same.
ahh, but you can send photo's to the list.
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/lst
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mark and keith - thanks for the advice. I am going to go down to the lab today
and run several 1 liter tests, including reprocessing and the oil wash
(intersesting idea!). I will report on what I find.
What is the philosophy behind mixing the glycerine back in after seperation?
and might
That town ace looks a lot like what Toyota sold here as the mini van. it
was the predecessor to the previa, which was the predecessor to the sienna.
http://www.velocityjrnl.com/jrnl/1984/vmd5024ov.html
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An answer to methanol poisoning?
Kirk
Red lights might battle blindness
By Charles Choi
March 4, 2003
(UPI) Three flashes of red light prevented eye damage
and promoted healing of the retina after rats suffered blindness from
methanol poisoning, researchers reported Monday.
The novel
I just filled up with biodiesel at West Valley Oil this morning in
San Jose. Couldn't be easier. Just drive up to the pump (there are
2 hoses available), pump your B100 biodiesel, and pay for it in the
office. No extra charge to use my ATM card. I don't know about any
surcharge for credit
That town ace looks a lot like what Toyota sold here as the mini van. it
was the predecessor to the previa, which was the predecessor to the sienna.
http://www.velocityjrnl.com/jrnl/1984/vmd5024ov.html
Never heard of the Previa or the Sienna. Marketing, sure, but also
Japanese car companies and
Hi,
I am interested in making biodiesel. What do you do with the waste
from processing used cooking oils? As an example, how much waste do
you have from 50 gallons of used unfiltered, oil. Any suggestions
for disposal? Thanks
Joe
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
mark and keith - thanks for the advice. I am going to go down to
the lab today and run several 1 liter tests, including reprocessing
and the oil wash (intersesting idea!). I will report on what I find.
What is the philosophy behind mixing the glycerine back in after
seperation? and might
Mark,
I agree with some of your post but must respectfully disagree with the
car-culture and rural poverty in the US argument.
On insurance, the issue is who is liable the driver or the car. If the
costs were fairly allocated it would fix part of the problem. Gov't.
seems to make problems
Didn't they call the early one the Previa too?
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That town ace looks a lot like what Toyota sold here as the mini
van. it
was the predecessor to the previa, which was the predecessor to the
sienna.
I hope that people let others know about this station. It is great
to have an other source than the Olympian cardlock station in S.F.
and West Valley Oil should be rewarded with lots of business for
taking the initiative to make B100 available to the general public.
Olympian Oil (and
A few years ago I tried to convince a co-worker that he should at
least look at the Diesel since it was available in the car he was
looking at. The arguments he had were dirty, smelly, get it on your
hands, get it in the car, and get it on your clothes.
B100 fixes one of the most common
Hi,
I am interested in making biodiesel. What do you do with the waste
from processing used cooking oils? As an example, how much waste do
you have from 50 gallons of used unfiltered, oil. Any suggestions
for disposal? Thanks
Joe
Hi Joe
No waste product except in the wash water, and that
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 20:55
Subject: [biofuel] Re: SUV's and gas consumption
I would argue that the No Fault argument that the insurers sold most
states is absolutely a scam. The argument was that no
Greg,
You have some pretty good arguments but I still think that tying
liability to the driver can be the more equitable solution.
1) On the case of the unused car that is seldom insured. The person
that trespasses should be held accountable and this is the root of
that issue. Yet your car
snip
I also lived in rural america (Kentucky) and I even lived below the
poverty line. These car, wealthy people, society is the fault
arguments never seem to place any value on the individual decisions
made by the people. Its always culture, society, or some other bad guy
that caused all their
US In Denial As Poverty Rises
by Ed Vulliamy
The Guardian
November 02, 2002
http://zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=10ItemID=2575
... Statistics released last month by the government census bureau
show that for the first time in 10 years the number of people caught
in the poverty
kirk,
Yep, I did leave but that was not my only option. It was also my
choice and my wifes choice. My decisions have largely got me here
through hard work (I worked two jobs for many years). I believe that
anyone anywhere in the US can be successful if they believe in
themselves and work hard
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2799705.stm
BBC NEWS | World | Americas |
Wednesday, 26 February, 2003
Rumsfeld warns on Iraq arms
Iraq's neighbours will stay out of a war, Rumsfeld predicted
Baghdad's chemical and biological weapons capabilities are likely to
be more lethal now than
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
SNIP
Names get created like BioDiesel and sometimes they
stick. Some names don't. Could be a television thing,
commentators are
always saying dumb things that catch on.
If it catches on then
Disturbing facts around the US/UK war in Iraq, as I see them.
Judge by yourself and please give me unemotional arguments and parameters
to change my view, I would be very happy it I could find comfort in the
actions now suggested by US/UK. I cannot mobilize such confidence in
Bush/Blair,
Hey Motie,
I like it! Can we get it in the Xtreme games next year?
And, I don't want to see any of those wimpy nerf computers or SUVs
used either.
td
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Hi Hakan
Disturbing facts around the US/UK war in Iraq, as I see them.
Disturbing, yes. A good analysis. Here's a bit more to distuirb you...
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15ItemID=3148
Donald Rumsfeld And Poison Gas
by Stephen Kerr
February 27, 2003
... It may seem
Nope, not me. I think that it was someone else. I had some contention
with SSPC, but that was about all. I did call BAT yesterday to find out
the opening date and they were reluctant. I also was trying to dig for
the 'special' process they were hearlding, and it was just single stage
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wrote:
Hey Motie,
I like it! Can we get it in the Xtreme games next year?
And, I don't want to see any of those wimpy nerf computers or SUVs
used either.
td
LOL! It's already on TV in several different
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 03:24, you wrote:
Mark,
Having been below the poverty line and having worked my way up to
middle class, I have no liberal guilt. I am happy to talk to people
about how to resolve this but too many people have bought into the
socialist view that the reason they are poor is
5/40 = 12.5% so he is about right there. It should be from ~10 - 15%
depending on feedstock, chemicals, and processing for a single stage batch
process.
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Keith Addison wrote:
mark and keith - thanks for the advice. I am going to go down to
the lab today and run several 1
or get diesel #2 cost competitive with BD!! ;-) Let's see the
real price of diesel #2 ...
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, aegent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A few years ago I tried to convince a co-worker that he should at
least look at the Diesel since it was available in the car he was
looking at.
For those of us with more $ than cents (pun intended), look in the Jaguar
showrooms next year for the 2005 S-Type with it's 3.0 liter V6 Diesel.
Mommy, why does that Jag smell like French fries?
http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/yohn
As an aside, Low Sulfur diesel will be showing up
I will be keeping a record of my milage on B100. My baseline for
Dinodiesel #2 is 23.3 mpg average over 17 records, highest mpg= 26.6.
The one possible dificulty is that I live about 15 miles from the
station that sells Biodiesel. If I'm concious enough to plan my
fillups in advance I will
Murdoch,
It was my tongue and my cheek, and it has generated a lot of spurious hot
air and entertainment, for which I feel no guilt.
To clarify the picture somewhat I have a Sii Land Rover, 1961, 2.25 litre
diesel and about 25mpg, a Land Rover 90,1989, 2.5tdi at about 32mpg and a
Range
In the past. There was a thread, about someone looking for a diesel
catalyst converter. The person wanted to further reduce their CO. Today I
ran across the Fleet Guard Inc. Company internet site. No small company and
it is own by Cummins.I thought someone could use the information.
Hi Ken B,
At 10:48 PM 3/4/2003 +, you wrote:
I good diversionary subject could be Obesity. This one will satisfy dear
Hakan since obesity kills ( and kills twice over)
It is a problem for Europeans and for me too, I am smoking and
like good food. Have some overweight and am aware of that
Wow, I can't wait to really respond to this post! holy hogwash,
Batman! sorry kids, I'm way, way too tired to do it justice after
about 24 hours of moving shop in preparation for the landlord visit
to our illegal warehouse living situation (the Visit of the Lord got
put off another day after
Hey,
Do you have to bring the oil to boil to separate the
water and WVO? Will the water separate if you just
heat and mix? Just curious because I hope to use a
water heater element in my processor, but it would
only bring temps to 130 degree F. Any help would be
appreciated. Also, does
Murdoch,
It was my tongue and my cheek, and it has generated a lot of spurious hot
air and entertainment, for which I feel no guilt.
To clarify the picture somewhat I have a Sii Land Rover, 1961, 2.25 litre
diesel and about 25mpg, a Land Rover 90,1989, 2.5tdi at about 32mpg and a
Range
Now semi retired I see no need to change vehicles, even though they will get
little use other than pulling my glider trailer around.
Damn, now someone will demonize gliding as a frivolous practice and demand
that all would be soaring pilots be put down at birth.
It didn't bother me. I
On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 22:23:21 -, you wrote:
I will be keeping a record of my milage on B100. My baseline for
Dinodiesel #2 is 23.3 mpg average over 17 records, highest mpg= 26.6.
Awesome, thx. I will look forward to this, and then we should be able to
do a $ per mile cost calculation and
There's a picture of one here:
http://members.tripod.com/cruzzencarz78/bigcar/37ChC.htm
1937 Chevrolet Coupe
Well, exactly, I mean just taking a quick look at it, it has *style* man.
I missed that entire era, but as I was saying, I think some of the SUV
thing is a return to a sort of
Hi Ken B,
At 10:48 PM 3/4/2003 +, you wrote:
I good diversionary subject could be Obesity. This one will satisfy dear
Hakan since obesity kills ( and kills twice over)
It is a problem for Europeans and for me too, I am smoking and
like good food. Have some overweight and am aware of that
aegent wrote:
Hey Motie,
I like it! Can we get it in the Xtreme games next year?
And, I don't want to see any of those wimpy nerf computers or SUVs
used either.
LOL! It's already on TV in several different formats, usually
involving cameras mounted in Police Cars and/or
Just a little more to add about
a Study in Hypocrisy regarding
the Chemical Weapons Convention.
Written
February 1998 February 1998 February 1998 February 1998
The United States vs. Iraq --
A Study in Hypocrisy
by William Blum
We have heard that a half million children
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