Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: quality control, customer service, and big industry

2003-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
Isn't it an NBB or EPA requirement to submit one sample a year? Keith >that is a great document, but that QC recommendation is only a recommendation. >There isn't particularly an enforcable law about how often companies run >analysis, I dont' think... > >mark > >At 04:57 PM 6/4/2003 -0500, you

[biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: quality control, customer service, and big industry

2003-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
Isn't it an NBB or EPA requirement to submit one sample a year? Keith >that is a great document, but that QC recommendation is only a recommendation. >There isn't particularly an enforcable law about how often companies run >analysis, I dont' think... > >mark > >At 04:57 PM 6/4/2003 -0500, you

[biofuel] Fwd: More on the Australian ethanol saga...

2003-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
Fwd from the Biofuels-biz list >To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com >From: "movember" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 01:55:31 - >Subject: [biofuels-biz] More on the Australian ethanol saga... > >Long post, but very interesting story that appeared in this week's >The Australian Finan

[biofuel] Fwd: RE: Good Fuel Quality Control at World Energy

2003-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
Fwd from Biofuels-biz: >To: >From: "Graham Noyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 21:44:11 -0400 >Subject: [biofuels-biz] RE: Good Fuel Quality Control at World Energy > >Thanks for your interest in getting some more info from me on the >quality issue in the Northwest. Sorry that I

[biofuel] Canola Based Motor Oils

2003-06-04 Thread benjinsl
Hi All, I was looking for info on growing rapeseed/canola, thought it would be cool if I could grow my own fuel, and found this website: http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/nexus/Brassica_rapeseed_nex.html There's a couple papers on using modified veggie oil as motor oil, this is the more rece

Re: The Cult of High Mileage (was RE: [biofuel] Funding Petroleum Warlords)

2003-06-04 Thread Brent S
Well, you have hit my hot buttons on this one. Let's not forget who is at the centre of this debate, the oil industry and the auto makers. If the the will was there from the oil companies and the auto makers, we could have the best of all worlds. Too many jobs are at stake in these two industri

RE: [biofuels-biz] Homebrew Biodiesel Class, June 29, Ukiah CA

2003-06-04 Thread William P. Warne
For this class, do we need to sign up somehow, or do we just show up at the appointed hour? -Original Message- From: girl mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 6/4/2003 4:43 PM To: burnveggies List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; biofuel@yahoogroups.com; biofue

[biofuels-biz] RE: Good Fuel Quality Control at World Energy

2003-06-04 Thread Graham Noyes
Thanks for your interest in getting some more info from me on the quality issue in the Northwest. Sorry that I am behind the curve in responding to the posts. I sometimes can't keep up very well when I am on the road. I must say I was surprised to suddenly see World Energy in headlights in

Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: quality control, customer service, and big industry

2003-06-04 Thread girl mark
>The odd thing is that it is the big guys (two of them apparently in the >past few weeks) who are having obvious quality control problems, and that >they're not admiting it (or catching the problem) until some >customer/retailer points it out (both World Energy and another producer >who just

Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: quality control, customer service, and big industry

2003-06-04 Thread glenne1949
Some many years ago I worked in a chem lab at a large oil refinery, running various lab tests on petroleum products, and, as I remember, the procedure was to check every batch of product (e.g., viscosity, flash point, color, etc.) whether it was lubricating oil, grease, or whatever. One would

Re: [biofuel] FW: GM food, water

2003-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Kirk http://www.panna.org/resources/panups/panup_20030530.dv.html GE Crops Won't End Hunger http://www.guardian.co.uk/gmdebate/Story/0,2763,965299,00.html GM crops of no benefit to poor, says ActionAid http://news.independent.co.uk/world/environment/story.jsp?story=410165 GM crops 'may push

Re: [biofuel] Homebrew Biodiesel Class, June 29, Ukiah CA

2003-06-04 Thread Party of Citizens
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[biofuels-biz] More on the Australian ethanol saga...

2003-06-04 Thread movember
Long post, but very interesting story that appeared in this week's The Australian Financial Review newspaper (3rd June 03). _ "The ethanol dream runs on empty" by Jason Koutsoukis and Ian Howarth - Nearly three months ago,

[biofuel] VM Earth's Vital Signs Show the Pain of Poverty

2003-06-04 Thread Kris Book
> > Earth's Vital Signs Show the Pain of Poverty > By J.R. Pegg > > WASHINGTON, DC, May 22, 2003 (ENS) - An examination of > Earth's "vital > signs" reveals alarming trends of poverty, disease and > environmental > decline that threaten global stability, according to the > Worldwatch > Instit

Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: quality control, customer service, and big industry

2003-06-04 Thread girl mark
that is a great document, but that QC recommendation is only a recommendation. There isn't particularly an enforcable law about how often companies run analysis, I dont' think... mark At 04:57 PM 6/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: >The most recent guideline that I have found for how often to QC biodie

[biofuels-biz] Oil and gas to continue to trump renewable energy for decades: BP chief

2003-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.wbcsd.org/plugins/DocSearch/details.asp?type=DocDet&DocId=MTMyMg World Business Council for Sustainable Development (WBCSD) Oil and gas to continue to trump renewable energy for decades: BP chief Agence France Presse, 2 June 2003 - Oil and gas will continue to trump renewable energy

[biofuel] Oil and gas to continue to trump renewable energy for decades: BP chief

2003-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.wbcsd.org/plugins/DocSearch/details.asp?type=DocDet&DocId=MTMyMg World Business Council for Sustainable Development (WBCSD) Oil and gas to continue to trump renewable energy for decades: BP chief Agence France Presse, 2 June 2003 - Oil and gas will continue to trump renewable energy

[biofuels-biz] In Sweden, cleaning oil from sunken Chinese freighter continues

2003-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.enn.com/news/2003-06-04/s_4756.asp In Sweden, cleaning oil from sunken Chinese freighter continues 04 June 2003 By Tommy Grandell, Associated Press STOCKHOLM, Sweden - Patches of fuel from a sunken freighter washed up on parts of southwestern Sweden's shore Tuesday, as residents an

[biofuel] Industrialized world's greenhouse gas emissions rising - UN report

2003-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
See also: http://www.enn.com/news/2003-06-04/s_4746.asp Rich nations to emit more greenhouse gases, says U.N. Reuters http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=7280&Cr=greenhouse&Cr1=gas Industrialized world's greenhouse gas emissions rising - UN report 3 June - The emissions of carbon dio

[biofuel] In Sweden, cleaning oil from sunken Chinese freighter continues

2003-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.enn.com/news/2003-06-04/s_4756.asp In Sweden, cleaning oil from sunken Chinese freighter continues 04 June 2003 By Tommy Grandell, Associated Press STOCKHOLM, Sweden - Patches of fuel from a sunken freighter washed up on parts of southwestern Sweden's shore Tuesday, as residents an

[biofuels-biz] Industrialized world's greenhouse gas emissions rising - UN report

2003-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
See also: http://www.enn.com/news/2003-06-04/s_4746.asp Rich nations to emit more greenhouse gases, says U.N. Reuters http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=7280&Cr=greenhouse&Cr1=gas Industrialized world's greenhouse gas emissions rising - UN report 3 June - The emissions of carbon dio

[biofuels-biz] WVO fryer concerns

2003-06-04 Thread ericchrisp
Hi, New to list. New to WVO. I'm filtering oil to stock pile, and purchased a diesel vehicle but haven't done conversion yet. will soon. I'm negotiating relationships with local restaurants to intercept their fryer oil before it gets mixed with grill grease trap waste. In one case they pointe

Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: quality control, customer service, and big industry

2003-06-04 Thread Kristen Stremlau
>I believe that the ASTM requirements don't stipulate how often you >have to do testing. The local (well sort of) WVO plant here in CA >(Imperial Western Products) sends out an analysis with every batch, >they're apparently a batch plant. The most recent guideline that I have found for how o

[biofuels-biz] Homebrew Biodiesel Class, June 29, Ukiah CA

2003-06-04 Thread girl mark
Apologies to all the out-of-state people getting my last few announcements, this is last of these pesky California events announcements for today. *** Hands-on Homebrew Biodiesel Class, June 29, Ukiah, CA Join girl Mark and Kumar Plocher at Yokayo Biofuels for a hand

[biofuel] Homebrew Biodiesel Class, June 29, Ukiah CA

2003-06-04 Thread girl mark
Apologies to all the out-of-state people getting my last few announcements, this is last of these pesky California events announcements for today. *** Hands-on Homebrew Biodiesel Class, June 29, Ukiah, CA Join girl Mark and Kumar Plocher at Yokayo Biofuels for a hand

[biofuel] more news the corporate government doesn't want to you hear

2003-06-04 Thread Kris Book
more news the corporate > government doesn't want to you hear > > http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/052703B.shtml > http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,963108,00.html > http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/05/26/1632226 > http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Willthomas/Articles/Bu

[biofuel] Biodiesel Sustainability Forum, Saturday, June 7th, Santa Rosa CA

2003-06-04 Thread girl mark
There is a biodiesel and sustainability forum at New College in Santa Rosa, CA, this Saturday. It runs from 10 am to 3 pm. There is a panel discussion/workshop on regional biodiesel and sustainability on June 7th at New College of California in Santa Rosa. Speaking will be -Dave Williamson, bi

[biofuels-biz] Biodiesel Sustainability Forum, Saturday, June 7th, Santa Rosa CA

2003-06-04 Thread girl mark
There is a biodiesel and sustainability forum at New College in Santa Rosa, CA, this Saturday. It runs from 10 am to 3 pm. There is a panel discussion/workshop on regional biodiesel and sustainability on June 7th at New College of California in Santa Rosa. Speaking will be -Dave Williamson, bi

[biofuel] Free Biodiesel Workshop this Sunday- Davis, California

2003-06-04 Thread girl mark
Hi Locals: I'm teaching a free biodiesel how-to workshop this Sunday, June 8th at the Domes student co-op at UC Davis, 11 am-3 pm. Unlike some of my other workshops, this one will be demo-style- ie, not hands-on for the students, due to possible UC nervousness about such things- but I'll hav

[biofuels-biz] Free Biodiesel Workshop this Sunday- Davis, California

2003-06-04 Thread girl mark
Hi Locals: I'm teaching a free biodiesel how-to workshop this Sunday, June 8th at the Domes student co-op at UC Davis, 11 am-3 pm. Unlike some of my other workshops, this one will be demo-style- ie, not hands-on for the students, due to possible UC nervousness about such things- but I'll hav

[biofuel] Northern California Biodiesel/SVO users

2003-06-04 Thread girl mark
Hello all, I started a new announcements email list for biodiesel-related events happening in Northern California. It is open for anyone to join and view the archives, however, it is not a discussion forum. It's an announcement-only newsletter', so it should stay low-volume. I expect to post

[biofuels-biz] Northern California Biodiesel/SVO users

2003-06-04 Thread girl mark
Hello all, I started a new announcements email list for biodiesel-related events happening in Northern California. It is open for anyone to join and view the archives, however, it is not a discussion forum. It's an announcement-only newsletter', so it should stay low-volume. I expect to post

[biofuel] We Used To Impeach Liars

2003-06-04 Thread MH
We Used To Impeach Liars By William Rivers Pitt t r u t h o u t | Perspective Tuesday 03 June 2003 In September of 2002, fully six months before George W. Bush attacked Iraq, I published a small book entitled "War on Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You To Know." The essential pre

[biofuel] Wolfowitz: Iraq war was about oil

2003-06-04 Thread finch006
It sucks to be right (Correct!) http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,970331,00.html Wolfowitz: Iraq war was about oil George Wright Wednesday June 04 2003 The Guardian Oil was the main reason for military action against Iraq, a leading White House hawk has claimed, confirming the worst

[biofuel] FW: GM food, water

2003-06-04 Thread kirk
-Original Message- From: HSI - Jenny Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Landslide Landslide Health Sciences Institute e-Alert June 4, 2003 ** Dear Memb

The Cult of High Mileage (was RE: [biofuel] Funding Petroleum Warlords)

2003-06-04 Thread Bryan Brah
Telling Americans that they should take their cars to the salvage yard is tantamount to telling them to give their children up for adoption. Automobiles are an integral part of Americans' self-image. People identify themselves by the vehicles they drive. We won't have much luck convincing everyo

[biofuel] EERE Network News -- 06/04/03

2003-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
== EERE NETWORK NEWS -- June 4, 2003 A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE). ===

[biofuel] Biodiesel in Northern New York

2003-06-04 Thread Martin Klingensmith
I scanned an article from my local newspaper about a biodiesel plant possibly opening: http://nnytech.net/~format/biodiesel2.png Martin Klingensmith nnytech.net Infoarchive.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

Re: [biofuel] cpo with acid-base stage

2003-06-04 Thread gumpon
We used to try acid-base (Alex's Foolproof) method with CPO (crude palm oil form palm fiber) and we got ester from the process but if what CPO in your case is crude palm oil from mixed shell and fiber, the simple ALex's foolproof won't work, please see what Michael Allen described several mon

Re: [biofuel] Diesel Boats

2003-06-04 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Yes, but tug/trawler owners are almost as cheap as sailors when it comes to wanting fuel-stingy cruisers! ;-) On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 07:58 PM, Bryan Fullerton wrote: > You can never have enough Horsepower.. LOL My '83 Chevy Sport Van with > a > turbo charged 6.5 can still put some of

[biofuel] cpo with acid-base stage

2003-06-04 Thread wahyu nurhayanti
i already done transesterification with acid-base method. when i finished the acid stage, the glycerin formed and i found that the acid value still high, but the cpo was less viscous then before. and after i separated the glycerin i continue with the base stage for one hour. but the cpo being

Re: [biofuel] Drying using concentrated salt solutions

2003-06-04 Thread Terry Lohnes
no, but it did work better than letting the oil and water settle out without help over a 24 hour period. The only thing is that the calcium chloride/water mixture is kind of a milky sludge at room temp right now. The up side is that the oil portion is almost a clear as before I emulsified it.

Re: [biofuel] Drying using concentrated salt solutions

2003-06-04 Thread Terry Lohnes
I talked to a lithium products supplier this morning. He called after a left an e-mail and filled me in on lithium bromide and lithium chloride. The bromide stuff won't work because it's soluble in glycerin. But the lithium chloride is only soluble in water, so I'll tray to get some of it. By th

[biofuel] Small-scale oil press

2003-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/oilpress.html "The Sunflower Seed Huller and Oil Press" by Jeff Cox (from Organic Gardening, April 1979, Rodale Press) -- Vegetable oils used to be one of those items you just HAD to buy. Now here's how to make your own. In 2,500 square feet, a family

[biofuels-biz] Small-scale oil press

2003-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/oilpress.html "The Sunflower Seed Huller and Oil Press" by Jeff Cox (from Organic Gardening, April 1979, Rodale Press) -- Vegetable oils used to be one of those items you just HAD to buy. Now here's how to make your own. In 2,500 square feet, a family