Re: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Friends, Although I am responding to this mail of Curtis' it is a general mail to the list in general. Are we not beating a dead horse with this thread? It is obvious that there are strongly held beliefs on all sides about this but has sufficient thought been given to what the mo

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread Appal Energy
Rico, And I humbly submit that there's more truth in F 9/11 than anything Moore's done before. As he stated in a public letter this week, the facts were vetted endlessly. The opinions and questions are his. And as he puts it 'rightfully so.' Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread Curtis Sakima
Frankly, I think Bush himself did 9/11. Ok ... so he did not directly "push the button". But IMHO ... he "enabled" it. and "surgically enhanced" it. IMHO he WANTED the WTC down (for reasons listed by Dave).So he "arranged" it to "go down". He had DEMOLITION CHARGES set up in it

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread rico suavae
If you were only right.Iwould like him to do a movie on the governments duplicity in Africa and the Sudan.Or the IRS and their unsupported tyranny against the American people.But he knows which side his bread is buttered on,what is safe and what is likely to be a real challenge to his freedoms.

[biofuel] Double Batching

2004-07-04 Thread bioveging
G'day; Having pretty much completed my processor and also having found a nice home for it, I have a question for those in the know. I am set up for a single batch lot or with a spare drum I can send tghe finished process to a settling tank and straight away fire up another one. The question is

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread Colin Little
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[biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread bioveging
Far beit for me to wizzle in your corn flakes, BUT, there is documented proof that the US government had contemplated the use of aircraft as bombs a long time ago. http://www.newsmakingnews.com/shockedcloak6,3,02.htm http://www.geraldplessner.com/articles/article.cgi?doc=20040422165204 4th para

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread rico suavae
I humbly submit that you miss the point of the second half of my statment.To reitrate.He used to be good,he ain't good anymore.He forgot that truth is what made him good not inuendo. Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Chill dude..., You had your chance to complain about that move years ago

[biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread bioveging
Also, it is true that NORAD had standing orders to intercept all wayward aircraft and that that had been Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) since the 70's rash of skyjackings; The FEMA Intercept Regs about scambling within minutes of an off course airliner: http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIM/Chap5/a

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Colin Little
As far as politics go, I think it's futile to debate them: America is too full of distractions like satelite TV, fast food, and things like that. A person is distracted far too often to seriously debate politics for an extended amount of time. People are like rugs: Hang them out a window and s

Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread rico suavae
The Cameo is indeed an art house movie theater.And as such its not too hard to break an attendence record in a venue that seats only 162 people. Rico MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Fahrenheit 9/11," a left-sided documentary that bashes the Bush administration's war on terrorism, wouldn't find mu

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread rico suavae
Too true Rico Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually, it was the world according to Doonesbury "It's too bad that all the people who know how to run the country are too busy back packing." Circa 1984 Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Sam ddd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Hakan Falk
Lillie, Yes, it is a mystery for anyone with flight experience, even more that our points are not on official investigation and records. It is absolutely clear that they knew that the four planes were hijacked long before any of them had hit anything. Hijacking is also something that should b

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Appal Energy
Brian, Give a person enough time to digest what they're reading, not to mention time to mow the yard, heat up the barbie for the high holy day (July 4th) and then chill with his feet up and a chilled glass of good wine or beer pressed to his forehead. Todd Swearingen - Original Message

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread Appal Energy
> PLEASE, if you don't think M Moore is after personal gainHAHAHAHAHAHA > > Mark There's a grand bit more to it than that Mark. If you can't imagine what all that might be, then perhaps the joke is on you? Todd Swearingen > -Original Message- > From: BEN ROBERTS [mailto:[EMAIL PROT

RE: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Benet P. Donnelly
Seven min would have done what, made you feel better? HOW?I'm sure whoever you wanted in office would have done so much better.Before,during and after.Buy the way do you vote in all elections? -Original Message- From: RICHARD BOGRAD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 03,

[biofuel] engine problem

2004-07-04 Thread MALONEKR
Some engines are poorly designed such as the 4 banger in chrysler neons which has 2 exhaust ports side-by-side.Chrysler tells people to use only CHRYSLER ANTI-FREEZE[it has a LOT of sealant in each gallon].Newer engines will not stand much overheating.Some cars[like buick]built in the 50's coul

RE: [biofuel] engine problem

2004-07-04 Thread Christopher
Thanks Michael. You guys are really great. Regards, chris -Original Message- From: Michael Lendzian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 5:52 AM To: Biofuel Subject: Re: [biofuel] engine problem blown head gasket? Michael Patrick Lendzian Information Technology Manag

RE: [biofuel] engine problem

2004-07-04 Thread Christopher
Hi Martin: What could be an indication that water has indeed damaged the bearings? Will that still be repairable? Thanks a lot. Regards, chris -Original Message- From: Martin Klingensmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 8:20 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject:

RE: [biofuel] engine problem

2004-07-04 Thread Christopher
Thanks a lot Peggy, Malcom. The cylinder head isn't cracked or at least it don't seem like it. I've always wanted to get my hands on an engine so I think I'll go on right ahead. I don't mind getting my hands dirty. Thanks again. Regards, Chris -Original Message- From: malcolm maclure [

[biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread bioveging
Wrong! The plane that Bush was told about was the SECOND plane, and not the first, so by then it was a known that the country was under attack. The aircraft had been off course for over an hour at this point and it is ONLY the President who can give a shoot down order, so he was at the very le

RE: [biofuel] engine problem

2004-07-04 Thread malcolm maclure
I did consider that afterwards Martin - fingers crossed it hasn't Malcolm -Original Message- From: Martin Klingensmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2004 17:20 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] engine problem > Chris, > > Sounds like blown head gasket - i

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread bioveging
Well, Todd, it seems that some folks don't understand, or don't want to understand, that if a house is built on silt and quicksand it will soon crumble. Duh. So it is apparent that any information used as foundation for an argument or testative point and that that foundation information is fla

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Lillie Bennett
That's right Hakan. There is no doubt due to the flight regulations that ATC knew these were hijackings minutes after the aircraft changed course. One of the regulations specifies to transponder code 7500 (hijack code). Also, for a commercial airliner to change course without explanation spells

[biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread bioveging
The most daming piece of evidence in the reading-about-goats video is, as was pointed out on an alternative news site, the fact that the Secret Service did NOTHING. Never mind what Bush's twisted sense of what the media have passed off as "christianity" is, it is the express raison-d'etre of th

RE: [biofuel] engine problem

2004-07-04 Thread Martin Klingensmith
> Chris, > > Sounds like blown head gasket - if so it should not be too serious, just > take the head off & replace with a new head gasket. You might want to > take the opportunity to reseat the valves while the head is off. Make > sure you follow the recommended tightening sequence & torque setti

[biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Brian
Greg, Where are all of your replies to all of the people who do have flight experience on this list and have pointed out the flaws in your arguments? Where is the information on your friends' flight that they have requested, so that they can check the accuracy of your claims? I have stated

Re: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread dave . randall
Hello everyone, I'm new to this list. Has it occurred to any of you that maybe George already knew that the planes were going to hit the towers. I wonder if this is true because if you look at who gained most out the that disaster then it is undoubtedly the Bush administration. Greater contro

[biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread canros_uk
Greg You state below that the aircraft in which your friend tragically died was in fact a civilian 'airliner' chartered by the military. The accident therefore will be in the NTSB database. If you could give me the date your friend died(I'm sure you will know, or can find that out) then we

RE: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread BEN ROBERTS
>PLEASE, if you don't think M Moore is after personal gainHAHAHAHAHAHA Please enligthen me then. what equivalent gain does Mr Moore receive compared to the multi nationals and politicians he criticises? Has he got some stake in the world oil economy that is threatened by the instigatio

Re: [biofuel] engine problem

2004-07-04 Thread Michael Lendzian
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[biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread canros_uk
Hello Greg As a pilot with considerably more military and civil time that the shrub I just do not believe that a pilot with his claimed experience would really believe that a heart attack could cause such an accident. But of course nothing is impossible! Regarding the unfortunate accident th

Re: [biofuel] Car Owners Turn to Vegetable Oil For Fuel

2004-07-04 Thread Sam ddd
Very interesting article. It is mentioned in the article that the biodiesel is known but it costs more. Thanks Sam Tobias Gogolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Car Owners Turn to Vegetable Oil For Fuel http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/features/feature_template.cfm?ID=1112 They don't seem to know

RE: [biofuel] engine problem

2004-07-04 Thread malcolm maclure
Chris, Sounds like blown head gasket - if so it should not be too serious, just take the head off & replace with a new head gasket. You might want to take the opportunity to reseat the valves while the head is off. Make sure you follow the recommended tightening sequence & torque settings for th

Re: [biofuel] engine problem

2004-07-04 Thread Peggyru32
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Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread MH
'Fahrenheit 9/11' prompts clean, righteous anger Sun, Jul. 04, 2004 http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/americannews/news/opinion/9079136.htm "Fahrenheit 9/11" made me angrier than any movie I've ever seen. It was a good anger, hard, clean and righteous, and I enjoyed it so much that I went b

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Appal Energy
Come on Greg, You're dancing around the core issues and spewing out volumes of distraction in the process. You're also modifying your position/previous statements with every new post that responds to yours. One can only take a fairly accurate stab as to what your purpose is. Your personal CO / 5

Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread MH
"Dissent, not censorship, is our heritage. Let's remember that this Independence Day." Anti-Bush film speaks for Kansans Sun, Jul. 04, 2004 http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/local/9076425.htm Scanning the cable news channels at home last week after watching "Fahrenheit 9/11," a cinema

[biofuel] engine problem

2004-07-04 Thread Christopher
Hi Guys: This is a question to all you mechanic types out there. I have an engine just like Terry McMcGleish's. http://www.eline2000.com/eline/articles/biogen/biogenset.htm It died on me and when I looked to see what is the matter, I found that the oil floated into the radiator and water sank in

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Hakan Falk
Greg, You are right in general terms, but to claim that it would be possible that any of the planes could crash where they crashed, because of any health problem, is still an impossibility. I have been sitting in the front seat and have a pilot license, even if it is for small planes. Had my

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Greg Harbican
Again, when you post, you show your ignorance. Is it honest, or do you just chose to be that way? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Brian To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 21:47 Subject: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE As my previous post pointed o

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Greg Harbican
That's your problem, you think that you do, and you don't. Think that is. And no inconsistencies except those that you make up. The equipment on military aircraft surpasses that on commercial aircraft. If it can happen to a military aircraft, that is under manual control, it can happen to

Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread MH
Sunday, July 4th, 2004 My First Wild Week with "Fahrenheit 9/11"... By Michael Moore http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-07-04 Friends, Where do I begin? This past week has knocked me for a loop. "Fahrenheit 9/11," the #1 movie in the country, the largest

[biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Brian
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Harbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My point was, much like it was in my first post, he like many others in this nation thought at first it was an accident, but, you read in my post only what you wanted to read. > > It is true you do not know anything

[biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Brian
> > P.S. If you were asking about the crash in which my friend died, because the pilot had a heart attack, in your P.S., it was a flying orientation flight from the Air Force Academy, I have no knowledge if it had a flight number or not. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been r

[biofuel] Car Owners Turn to Vegetable Oil For Fuel

2004-07-04 Thread Tobias Gogolin
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RE: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread Mark McElvy
PLEASE, if you don't think M Moore is after personal gainHAHAHAHAHAHA Mark -Original Message- From: BEN ROBERTS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 1:38 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11 >I really don't understand the

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Greg Harbican
- Original Message - From: Appal Energy To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 20:01 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE Greg, It would help a bit if you took a deep breath on this one before continuing. Bush set "idle" for seven full minutes after being info

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Appal Energy
Greg, It would help a bit if you took a deep breath on this one before continuing. Bush set "idle" for seven full minutes after being informed that his country was under attack. No. He wasn't told that it was a catastrophic accident twice over. He was told "... America's under attack." So you b

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Greg Harbican
My point was, much like it was in my first post, he like many others in this nation thought at first it was an accident, but, you read in my post only what you wanted to read. It is true you do not know anything about aircraft, because actually, a pilot having a heart attack, could very well c

Re: [biofuel] THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-04 Thread Greg Harbican
I know my time line was off, I remembered after I hit the send. I was thinking about the 4th plane. See my second post.