The extra water might not make any difference, as Joe Street and I
were saying a month or so back. Some water is acceptable, but just
how much is not easy to say, so it's safer to get rid of any and all
water if you can. But your 93% sulphuric is worth a try. Start with
low-FFA oil, preferably
Hi James
> I recently scored 14 (!!!) 55g drums of new canola oil for free.
Good score! :-)
The pint/quart of canola left would add 0.23-0.46% triglycerides to
55 gallons of biodiesel. Even if your processing is good that's just
enough to bump you out of the standards requirements.
Bob and To
>How's about all dropping shares/stocks in oil and related products/goods,
What if you'd have to buy them first but you haven't got any money?
>just dumping them and investing in gold?
:-) That's worse than Euros, revolutionary talk, the Empire won't
like it. You don't happen to have any WMDs s
>Well, I really appreciate all the responses to my post. However, I'm
>still at a loss as to what I can do, given only one acre of land and
>the need for a productive crop rotation from the same piece of land
>every year.
>
>So far, I saw one post that questioned whether you need crop
>rotation
1: In Australia, pallets are chipped (then the nails etc are sorted &
recycled) The chips go to mulch, etc.
2: Tractor tyres, with the sidewall cut out would make a good bed. (Use a
pointy carving knife to cut the walls out- & do not tell the wife! Women just
do not understand! (TIC)) Lay plast
> We made most of our ethanol out of rice. We added 20% water
> and drove our car and truck on it with excellent results.
> Marilyn
Ethanol makes a total change to emissions from the exhaust in
smell, like it is not too unpleasant to breath while the engine is
running. No real need to go to the
How's about all dropping shares/stocks in oil and related products/goods,
just dumping them and investing in gold?
1976 -1977 Gettie oil was in Nabalek/Ranger uranium mining/surveying in
Australia, now Iran has the stuff, all in the same basket them bods. Get rid
of the oil and shares go into gold
Try it, then you can tell us. Lol.
But seriously though, I would guess that the extra 2% is most likely either
water or a gelling agent to make it thicker and stickier. Water will give
you some extra soap in your wash, not sure what a gelling agent might do. I
would suggest investing your two do
Doug
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> We made most of our ethanol out of rice. We added 20% water
> and drove our car and truck on it with excellent results.
> Marilyn
Ethanol makes
Hi Keith,
I hope you are right about Americans. Are enough of them agitating
Congress
so that some action will be taken that will rid us of the Dumb-Duo? Geez,
it'd
be so nice. (Maybe you see things more clearly from Tokyo.) Or at least
take back the war making powers they so generously gave t
We made most of our ethanol out of rice. We added 20% water
and drove our car and truck on it with excellent results.
Marilyn
Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote:
Sticky/Glutinous rice from the fields makes real good ethanol. If
used with
and injection of 15 to 20% water it produces much more en
Michael,
Did you know a structure with wood support beams will maintain integrity
longer in a fire than one of steel? This is true due to steels complete
failure at a given temp where wood must be consumed to a failure point,
thus taking longer.
My bit of trivia, thanks for the posted site it
> I have my oil burner running on BD100. I would like to add the FFA from
> the split ... probably 5 - 10%. Any problems anticipated w. this?
Will it
> stay dissolved in the BD or separate out?
It will stay dissolved. You'll also find the FFAs are only slightly
more viscous than the biodie
Thomas,
You shouldn't need but between 1.5 and 1.75 gallons of 85% phosphoric
for every 50 gallons of glyc cocktail that is derived from 1.5 gram
titrated oil.
That would work out to be approximately 0.135 to 0.157 gallons per cube,
or 510 to 595 mililiters per cube.
I guess the question is h
...did you cc Pimentel on this one? :-) Mike[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message from sender:Hello One and All: I thought this might be of interest to you all. Wishing all much happiness,
If you're really picky/concerned, rinse the drum out with a half-gallon
of biodiesel. Take the oil/biodiesel rinse from all fourteen drums and
mix that in with your last batch of oil to be turned into biodiesel.
Or don't. Your engine won't notice any difference between straight bio
and bio "con
Forgot. You'll definitely want to pull off the liquid phase that settles
out of the esterification if using such an acid purity. You wouldn't be
sending much water over to the base side. But why include that variable
if you can avoid it?
Todd Swearingen
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>in the foolp
It should. Hopefully the other 7% is only water. Worth a try.
Todd Swearingen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>in the foolproof method, as defined on the JTF web site, it is stated
>to use 95% sulphuric acid. This is hard to get these days for an
>individual and somewhat costly. however there is an
Sticky/Glutinous rice from the fields makes real good ethanol. If used with
and injection of 15 to 20% water it produces much more energy in a tuned
engine to the fuel water mix than gas. Why the need to go to other
Bio-Fuels? The Ethanol with the water injection would be sufficient to run
pumps,
the drums should be fine, and I wouldn't sweat a pint or two of oil in 55
gallons of bio-D.
james demer wrote:
> I recently scored 14 (!!!) 55g drums of new canola oil for free. I am
> processing it into biodiesel and I'm running out of storage. Can I put
> biodiesel back into a 55g drum that hou
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in the foolproof method, as defined on the JTF web site, it is stated
to use 95% sulphuric acid. This is hard to get these days for an
individual and somewhat costly. however there is an old fashioned drain
cleaner whose MSDS reports is 93% sulphuric acid. oddly enough anybody
can buy gallons w
I've recently acquired through inheritance about 20 acres of farm land
in rural Philippines. It's currently being used for rice and I think
some tobacco. My wife's extended family works the land and the
operation has now passed into our hands.
Being a professional engineer and California-based c
I recently scored 14 (!!!) 55g drums of new canola oil for free. I am
processing it into biodiesel and I'm running out of storage. Can I put
biodiesel back into a 55g drum that housed new canola oil? I emptied
the drums pretty well but there is still probably a pint to a quart of
oil in the bottom
On Apr 10, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Thomas Kelly wrote:The oil I use titrates between 1.0 and 1.5g/L. That's pretty clean oil -- should only have maybe11g of FFA per liter, which will need about 5g (3ml)of 85% H3PO4 (per liter oil) to separate. Sounds likeyou're using about 300X too much phosphoric ac
I stumbled across this (for what it's worth): http://www.haywired.com/microfarm/My_Links_Pages/biomass_crops_01.html MikeKeith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Michael Redler wrote:> > Thanks Jason, Katie and Keith.> >> > The reason for my post had mostly to do with soil degradation. I
Well, I really appreciate all the responses to my post. However, I'm still at a loss as to what I can do, given only one acre of land and the need for a productive crop rotation from the same piece of land every year. So far, I saw one post that questioned whether you need crop rotation at all
I agree but isn't it a case where they are Green-er than a nuke plant or a coal fired power plant?Is there somewhere where someone had compared the pollutants from PV mfgr and say 10 years of pollution from an electric plant for one house?Thanks.On 11Apr, 2006, at 3:17 AM, Chip Mefford wrote:As mu
Hello All,
I have many 4.5
gal (17.7L) cubies full of the glycerine coproduct. I've begun the
task of splitting it. I would appreciate comments on my initial
results.
The oil I use titrates between 1.0 and
1.5g/L. Rough calculations lead me to believe that I would need at least a Li
ok, take ye auld oversimlification and use the 800 Gal/acre and then
consider taking 5 acres to farm by rotation. one for pasture, one for fuel
and the other three for restructuring (nitrogen, compost, hay, etc.) you
could have the four year rotation, and never have a dry year as far as fuel
is
According to our Commander in Thief., e hehhh he, I mean
Chief, It's all " wild speculation." He used those words today when
referring to the article that ran some renowned rag this weekend.
Oddly enough, "wild speculation" doesn't mean something isn't true. A
lot of people have
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
> I think the problem is that driving 12,000 miles per year is not
> sustainable, no matter if you use PV, biofuels, whatever
>
Of that I am not so sure.
there are a *LOT* of internal combustion engines
around. I mean a *LOT* of them. And they
are pretty broadly deployed
I think the problem is that driving 12,000 miles per year is not
sustainable, no matter if you use PV, biofuels, whatever
On 4/10/06, Chip Mefford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Zeke Yewdall wrote:
> > one acre of PV will produce enough electricity to run an electric car
> > roughly 1.5 million
Here's a diagram of the soilfood web:
http://www.magicsoil.com/SoilFood.htm
Soil Food Web
For anyone interested in soil life and sustainable growing Dr. Elaine
Ingham's Soil Foodweb site is filled with interest:
http://www.soilfoodweb.com/
Soil Foodweb, Inc.
Along with these:
http://journeyto
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
> one acre of PV will produce enough electricity to run an electric car
> roughly 1.5 million miles per year... Or alternatively, you could run
> it 12,000 miles or so with about 300 square feet of PV.
>
Yeah, *but*
How sustainable are PV arrays?
As much as I like PVs, and
>What about the oceans? I know that's not the same as hydroponics, but
>they are a sustainable ecosystem which do not depend on soil. The
>organic matter just floats around in the water. Now, I admit that
>trying to bring it onto land, and grow something like tomatoes instead
>of kelp, is not th
one acre of PV will produce enough electricity to run an electric car
roughly 1.5 million miles per year... Or alternatively, you could run
it 12,000 miles or so with about 300 square feet of PV.
On 4/10/06, John Mullan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought he said 800 gallons of ethanol per acr
I thought he said 800 gallons of ethanol per acre. But I don't know if
either one can yeild that much. I'd be interested to know.
However, Michael, perhaps you need 4 acres and rotate around so you can
have everything. I know, wishful thinking.
Cheers,
John
On 4/10/2006, "David Miller" <[EMA
Check out:
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/jones/StevenJones.html
Basically the planes were not enough to do the collapse alone. They
needed help. WRT having to have the planes hit at the exact level
where there would be charges, not necessary. The upper few stories
wouldn't need any but maybe
Actually the plane was more correctly a giant incendiary device.
So the aircraft was not a massive explosive device?? Had no effect on the
structure at all??
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I've been reading all the messages and thought I would comment on this one.
I'm a massage therapist at the "biggest casino in the world" consequently I
see people all over the world on a regular basis. A few weeks ago I was in
conversation with a woman in
>Michael Redler wrote:
> > Thanks Jason, Katie and Keith.
> >
> > The reason for my post had mostly to do with soil degradation. I was
> > researching what crops gave the best yield for ethanol production and
> > began looking at sugar beets as a possibility. However, the research
> > suggests that
Mike, et al:
Could you irrigate with wash water, as well? Wouldn't that just be
another form of returning all the by-product to the soil?
-Sean
On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 08:06 -0700, Michael Redler wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> Going by memory, I misquoted my own post from last year.
>
> http://www.mai
>Keith Addison wrote:
> > Hello Mike
> >
> >
> >>Keith,
> >> BIG SNIP
> > See what John Stauber has to say about the big enviro groups.
> > http://www.ratical.org/ratville/PRcorrupt.html
> > WAR ON TRUTH, The Secret Battle for the American Mind
>
>You know,
>
>There is a reason some of us scream "s
Mike, if you do it the cheap and easy way you can have biofuel
feedstock coming out all over the place a few times a year.
If you're going to focus on biofuels crops production and yields,
that's when it gets messy, and the soil depletion problem is the one
you won't solve. If you farm instead
>Keith,
>
> Most (or enough) Americans are asleep or indifferent.
Don't believe it! We were discussing it here about a week ago.
>If we had a real
>mainstream media here, that
>didn't screen out news unfavorable to the administration, especially the
>bogus wars, things would never deteriorated
Doug,
I suppose there could be
some benefits of cell phone tracking. But it always seem that
privacy
has to be forked over.
Making your cell phone trackable should be a user
option, not mandatory. The
same for the black boxes in cars that allow tracking.
Everything is being done to
"protect
What about the oceans? I know that's not the same as hydroponics, but
they are a sustainable ecosystem which do not depend on soil. The
organic matter just floats around in the water. Now, I admit that
trying to bring it onto land, and grow something like tomatoes instead
of kelp, is not the sam
Okeedokee. I'm not into putting a lot of energy into this argument. Suffice to say that I haven't seen a compelling argument to change my opinion - even after visiting http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sbt.htm. Mike "Gary L. Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bull pucky, mate.http://mcadams.posc.
Hi David, Going by memory, I misquoted my own post from last year. http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg51322.html Sugar beets and ethanol production: According to a page on http://www.green-trust.org, the estimate is 1200 gallons per acre of land and that the 800
Bull pucky, mate.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sbt.htm
Have a look. When you figure in the angle of the supposed snipers
nest there is just no way.
That dog don't hunt.
I collected a variety of Kennedy assassination information from so
many sources. Most of it destroyed when my hard drive g
If it didn't work in the 60's with the same families at the helm why will it
work in Iran or Iraq??? 50 + million people sleeping??? Wake UP.
How's about private organization like this setting up an extra to elections
where people can actually say and confirm on a separate network who they
voted f
> Another unanswered question: why were the massive steel beams quickly
> gathered up and
> ship off for scrap? Is it because the beams might've shown that they were
> torn apart by
If you have been down to ground Zero you will notice there is no room to
store the debris from a fraction of one
Michael Redler wrote:
> Thanks Jason, Katie and Keith.
>
> The reason for my post had mostly to do with soil degradation. I was
> researching what crops gave the best yield for ethanol production and
> began looking at sugar beets as a possibility. However, the research
> suggests that root cr
ARE the same fat cat.On 10Apr, 2006, at 9:06 PM, Gary L. Green wrote:People have also got to quit voting for who ever puts on the best dog and pony show at election time. Democraps & Republickends and the same fat cat, just a different color. We need to get independents, greens and others in. A
What about the Pentagon? I have not seen any footage of a plane, no witnesses who saw a plane, no debris from a passenger plane or a manifest of passengers for the flight that was supposed to have crashed into the Pentagon. The Warren Commission was a joke. However, if you simply move the s
People have also got to quit voting for who ever puts on the best dog and pony show at election time. Democraps & Republickends and the same fat cat, just a different color. We need to get independents, greens and others in. As long as we keep voting for corporate dupes we're dead.Scary but Nade
Thanks Jason, Katie and Keith. The reason for my post had mostly to do with soil degradation. I was researching what crops gave the best yield for ethanol production and began looking at sugar beets as a possibility. However, the research suggests that root crops can't be planted every year bec
Keith Addison wrote:
> Hello Mike
>
>
>>Keith,
>> BIG SNIP
> See what John Stauber has to say about the big enviro groups.
> http://www.ratical.org/ratville/PRcorrupt.html
> WAR ON TRUTH, The Secret Battle for the American Mind
You know,
There is a reason some of us scream "shenanigans" or foul
Keith,
Most (or enough) Americans are asleep or indifferent. If we had a real
mainstream media here, that
didn't screen out news unfavorable to the administration, especially the
bogus wars, things would never deteriorated to the low
level we have now. I hardly ever watch TV news and get my
Cell phones can already be tracked by signal. Not sure it helps in a heart
attack but my phone tells where I am if asked. Cell phones can be used as
"guidance" to target.
Took an extra 2 or 3 years to get digital phones on the market as the boss
needed the ability to locate/listen before their rel
And slowly, oh ever so slowly they awake but awakening they are. Does time
give enough???
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/awakenedvetsindex.shtml
Doug
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