Re: [Biofuel] Governments role in society.

2006-05-21 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, I'm not so sure if the following would even be possible; "6) No private land ownership, however a system that puts people on the > land for prosperity in agriculture through ley and organic means." In the county in which I live there would be enough decent property to allow every n

Re: [Biofuel] CEI runs PRO CARBON DIOXIDE ADS

2006-05-21 Thread Jason & Katie
good gods! these people are demented to say the least. theres spin, and then theres the tilt-a-whirl...and i gotta say this no longer qualifies as simple spin. - Original Message - From: "Paul S Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:46 PM Subject: [Biofuel] CEI

[Biofuel] CEI runs PRO CARBON DIOXIDE ADS

2006-05-21 Thread Paul S Cantrell
This is a joke...Right? I mean, surely ExxonMobil doesn't think that we are ALL THIS DUMB, RIGHT? The (surreal) videos of the 2 commercials: http://streams.cei.org/ Backed by ExxonMobil. Denialists with a vested interest. Resources: About CEI:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competitive_Enter

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-21 Thread M&K DuPree
Hi Jason and Katie...thanks for writing.  Are you new to the area?  Haven't ever heard anyone talk about their "township" or "land taxes."  Have lived in the area pretty much all of my life, except for brief time in England in the service and many years later for a couple of years in Charlot

Re: [Biofuel] Cars runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-21 Thread M&K DuPree
Title: Re: [Biofuel] Cars runs on water and Other Nonsense Cheers to you too, Jesse.  Thank you.  Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: mark manchester To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cars runs on water

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-21 Thread M&K DuPree
Thanks Keith...very respectful. Thank you. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense > >LOL...amen brother...have to use the whole coin. The List i

Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Pt 1

2006-05-21 Thread bruno
Hey there: Mi name is Bruno.I am just wondering;after Your extended answer on Jeep,could you tell me if you have any expirience on Renault.I just bought Renault Laguna 1.9DTI 1999.Are there any data on should or should I not use BD in this car.I am making my BD since last Oktober and it seems t

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-21 Thread Jason& Katie
aye, i read your post, and i live between Gladstone and NKC. not exactly sure what township this is, but i rent, so land taxes arent a problem. - Original Message - From: "M&K DuPree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water

Re: [Biofuel] Microbes in BD

2006-05-21 Thread Thomas Kelly
Jim, Yeah, I'm putting my fear of microbes to rest. I have what is often called a "boiler". The oil fired burner heats water that is circulated through baseboard heaters. There is a coil in the furnace that heats water for domestic use. I used BD30 through the past winter and got the thing

Re: [Biofuel] Cars runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-21 Thread mark manchester
Title: Re: [Biofuel] Cars runs on water and Other Nonsense From: "M&K DuPree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 11:29:15 -0500 To: Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cars runs on water and Other Nonsense Sorry, for got to include subject...too happy

Re: [Biofuel] American diesels

2006-05-21 Thread mark manchester
Thanks, Chip! I guess! Not our model but a cool site and hilarious logo. Jesse > From: Chip Mefford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 13:14:52 -0400 > To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels > > Mike Weaver w

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
>LOL...amen brother...have to use the whole coin. The List is helping me do >so. I've also printed out and am keeping in front of the Credo for JtF. >Also keeping on my desktop a shortcut to the words of the song and the song >itself. Golly, Mike. I do hope it helps. >Ok...so now more fatheaded

Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Just to add, I wouldn't want anybody to generate any pdf files from the material at JtF, whether for sale or for non-sale or for anything. JtF is not public property, and there's not much about it that's haphazard and unplanned. It's not Biofuel list property either. It's not because we haven't

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-21 Thread M&K DuPree
LOL...amen brother...have to use the whole coin. The List is helping me do so. I've also printed out and am keeping in front of the Credo for JtF. Also keeping on my desktop a shortcut to the words of the song and the song itself. Ok...so now more fatheadedness...what is "Namaste"? Also, I w

[Biofuel] Governments role in society.

2006-05-21 Thread JJJN
Since I am USA born and raised, I've only been to Canada 5 times I have a limited experience in life with what others experience concerning Government and its role in ones daily life. One of the things I like about this list is the variety of international differences shared every so often. A

Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chris, and all who replied, thankyou... >Keith Addison wrote: >>I keep getting complaints about this guy who sells bits of the JtF >>website on eBay. He's not the only one. >> >>Quite a few people have reported him and complained about him, but >>it doesn't work, eBay won't cooperate, they're

Re: [Biofuel] Microbes in BD

2006-05-21 Thread JJJN
Tom, I'm no expert but I think you have pegged it. A stir wash will really clean a batch but it does take some time for it to clarify and when it does it often will leave a little white watery stuff at the bottom (very little that is) enough to make you wonder about microbes. Say do you use an

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
>Hi Keith...and List...thank you. I had read, but forgotten (shame >on me), the Credo before I asked to join. It gave me the confidence >to ask to join. Wonderful to be reminded of, wake up with and read >this morning. Is that sunshine I see peaking through the clouds?!!! >Getting ready to

Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-21 Thread Chris Bennett
Keith Addison wrote: > I keep getting complaints about this guy who sells bits of the JtF > website on eBay. He's not the only one. > > Quite a few people have reported him and complained about him, but it > doesn't work, eBay won't cooperate, they're pretty much complicit. > Maybe he could be p

Re: [Biofuel] American diesels

2006-05-21 Thread Chip Mefford
Mike Weaver wrote: > Fix it! > > I had a 300SD - wish I'd kept it You've got a wonderful chance to own a '83 300TD right now! :) > > mark manchester wrote: > Yes Mark; Fix it. A little on the spendy side, but here's the starting point for many things MB deisel; (good source and the books are

Re: [Biofuel] Separating Glycerine

2006-05-21 Thread Thomas Kelly
Todd, I'm always interested when two different lines of reasoning point to the same answer. Using experience with your method and my info re: lye used, you were able to give me a ballpark figure for how much H3PO4 I needed. Starting at the low end of the range you provided and gradually

Re: [Biofuel] Cars runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-21 Thread M&K DuPree
Sorry, for got to include subject...too happy - Original Message - From: M&K DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Hey Jesse (and Jason and Mike Weaver)...thanks so much, Jesse...for both me

Re: [Biofuel] Microbes in BD

2006-05-21 Thread Thomas Kelly
Jim, I stir wash. My final wash is often crystal clear. My oil is very good/dry to start. I normally get very little soap formation. My BD doesn't get to sit around long now that I use it to heat my house and for domestic hot water as well as in my car - '82 Mercedes 300SD.

Re: [Biofuel]

2006-05-21 Thread M&K DuPree
Hey Jesse (and Jason and Mike Weaver)...thanks so much, Jesse...for both me and you.  Changing location not out of the question, probably Canada (sorry friends to the North...might be gettin another fathead!!!), but gotta stick for now where I am, which OH...HEY Jason and Kate...My wife, Ka

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-21 Thread mark manchester
Title: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense Yay! Jesse From: "M&K DuPree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 06:54:00 -0500 To: Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense Hi Keith...and List...thank you.  

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-21 Thread mark manchester
Title: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense Hi Mike, Nuts, I forgot to put anything on the subject line in my response to you and to Keith.  Sorry!  Maybe you will find it anyway. Thanks for your thoughtful response.  I appreciate your frustration! From: "M&K DuPree" <[EMAIL P

[Biofuel]

2006-05-21 Thread mark manchester
Hi Keith, Mike, Yessir, Keith, I did. >Did you read Mike's previous message Jesse, below? >Keith >"Independence" is an illusion. I recognize "individuality," >but "independence"...NOT Every individual one of us is part of >the same planet and ultimately the ever changing universe. This

Re: [Biofuel] Microbes in BD

2006-05-21 Thread JJJN
Thanks Tom, I wonder what is your final wash water like and how do you mix it i.e. stir, bubble etc? I was having some of the same trouble because I was not doing my dehydration correctly and as a result suspended water would drop out with soaps and cause this same sort of problem. A good sola

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-21 Thread Appal Energy
Not shooting a messenger and it doesn't really matter if the both articles were from the same source or one was from Pluto and the other from Venus. One was poorly written, with no facts, only telling a reader what they should think or feel. It wasn't an "article," it was an incitement. The ot

Re: [Biofuel] Rachel's News - NAIS

2006-05-21 Thread Mike Weaver
When I was in grade school we had a program where if one kid got lice, all the kids had to be infected. The school nurse would "check" us without disinfecting her hands between kids and so pretty much ensured that the enite school got it. We boys just got a crew cut but it was hell on the gir

Re: [Biofuel] Microbes in BD

2006-05-21 Thread Thomas Kelly
In a post (see below) dated 4/18/06 I was concerned that I had microbial contamination in my last two batches of BD. I have been unable to reproduce the results of an experiment (see Post below) and now believe that the whispy sediment was a soap.    After several uneventful

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-21 Thread M&K DuPree
Hi Keith...and List...thank you.  I had read, but forgotten (shame on me), the Credo before I asked to join.  It gave me the confidence to ask to join.  Wonderful to be reminded of, wake up with and read this morning.  Is that sunshine I see peaking through the clouds?!!!  Getting ready to

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense/ YESmagazine.org

2006-05-21 Thread Martin Kemple
Check out YESmagazine.org The Summer, '06 Issue, articles including: -"The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community" by David Korten -"North Korea and Cuba: Peak Oil Preview" -"The Perfect Economic Storm" -"Indigenous Prophecies" by John Mohawk- -"Neighborhoods Prepare for the Worst - and the

[Biofuel] China's spending on renewable energy ranks world No. 1

2006-05-21 Thread D. Mindock
 http://en.ce.cn/Industries/Energy&Mining/200605/17/t20060517_6993414.shtml   China's spending on renewable energy ranks world No. 1 Last Updated(Beijing Time):2006-05-17 13:30 China has become the top investor in renewable

Re: [Biofuel] Separating Glycerine

2006-05-21 Thread Thomas Kelly
I think I have it figured out. Brief review:     The posts (below) by Bioclaire Nederland appeared to give a method for calculating amount (g.) of H3PO4 needed to produce a split in the glycerine cocktail if one knew the amount of lye used to produce the cocktail. I use a mix of WVO tha

Re: [Biofuel] Rachel's News - NAIS

2006-05-21 Thread D. Mindock
Hi Marylyn, I've read that the Codex Alimentarius was supposed to take effect in England soon. There are some groups there fighting it through legal channels. I know the one by Dr Mathias Rath is one but, like you, I haven't seen any news as of late. I believe it already is a reality in Austra

Re: [Biofuel] Rachel's News - NAIS

2006-05-21 Thread D. Mindock
Marylyn, This is disturbing news. I knew it was bad, but this way beyond bad; it is horrific to the small mom and pop farms. NAIS is another gift, a huge one, to Big Agro. Is there anything BushCo won't do for Big Biz? Nope, nothing is too much in the eyes of this evil regime. OCA, EarthJu

[Biofuel] Read my lips

2006-05-21 Thread D. Mindock
http://numen.wordpress.com/2006/05/20/read-my-lips/ Read My Lips Daily Kos has a good article about the NarusInsight, ( http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/8/14724/28476 ) a little box from AT&T that can monitor the contents (the semantic content, the meaning) of internet traffic at ten bi

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-21 Thread D. Mindock
Todd, The link I provided was the original and only link that covered the story. The additional link was to the same site and probably written by the same person. If the original link was too emotional then you should write the author of the article. Don't shoot the messenger. Peace, D. Mindock

Re: [Biofuel] Separating Glycerine

2006-05-21 Thread Appal Energy
> If it's a secret, include the word iguana anywhere in your response and > I'll drop the subject. No real secret Tom. I took the numbers for the caustic you used, extrapolated the number from our hands on experience with FFA recovery and chucked the number your direction. Excess acid is req

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Jesse, Mike >This is surely the most depressing post I've ever seen. Mike! What >sort of response were you thinking you'd get? How can anyone >respond to this. No dream no agriculture no biodiesel no... simple >answer. Leave!! What are you there for? Jesse Leave for where? Where is

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Mike >- Original Message - >From: mark manchester >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 4:22 PM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense > >Hi Jesse...thanks for writing. You