Yeah good point but I was actually comparing Osama to the master in that
case.
Joe
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Isn't it amazing how someone who lived thousands of years ago can have such an impact on our philosophy today. It's especially remarkable how his writing on war becomes so useful to almost anyone, including pacifists.
You might remember how he explains the use of the orthodox and orthodox -
I think what your thinking of is:
"Subjugating the enemy's army without fighting is the true pinnacle
of excellence"
Thankyou Michael. 'Tis long since I read it, though I have it here,
and also on my hard disk. I should have looked it up.
Best wishes
Keith
...good point.
Mike
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robert,
that's cool as hayil! thanks for passing that along.
-chris b.
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this *homebrew* wturbine reportedly withstands 60+ mph winds. i can't see
how even stronger ones couldn't be made. i have my own idea of how it could be
done. . . .
Then I've misunderstood something, Chris. I followed the link and
went to the wind turbine secti
this *homebrew* wturbine reportedly withstands 60+ mph winds. i can't see
how even stronger ones couldn't be made. i have my own idea of how it could be
done. . . .
-chris b.
In a message dated 7/22/05 6:21:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Power increases to the CUBE of wind velocity. T
I think what your thinking of is:
"Subjugating the enemy's army without fighting is the true pinnacle of excellence"
...good point.
Mike
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In a message dated 7/22/05 12:43:52 PM, keith writes:<<"The wisest use of power is to refrain from using it." (Or something perhaps
Kirk McLoren wrote:
Wasn't clear to me what the specs are but they did allude to 30mph full
output. An 80+ wind is going to produce lots more force.
Power increases to the CUBE of wind velocity. Twice the windspeed =
8 times the power. A hurricane would likely shred an AIR turbine. I
lik
oops, forgot to include the materials extraction industries.
-chris b.
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interests of the energy industries and arms and military-related industries) >>
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lol. no, you don't. when you have amassed that kind of firepower in a
foreign country, the local political process almost becomes irrelevant to your
presence. especially so when you've played things as masterfully as these guys
have.
they (the bush-neocon faction of the right, who represent
Wasn't clear to me what the specs are but they did allude to 30mph full output. An 80+ wind is going to produce lots more force.
Kirkr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have found an wind turbine that I can use during a hurricane: the CET Air X Wind Turbine from Cetsolar.com. I'm certainly not going
Hello Joe, Kirk, Hakan
It reminds me of a story about an old marial arts master who was
challenged to a duel by an arrogant young bully. The old man could
not avoid the conflict without losing face but rather than kill his
opponent outright which he could have done, instead he skillfully
ke
I thought this might be relevant.http://www.afterdowningstreet.org
Mike
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WASHINGTON, D.C., Jul 22 (OneWo
The US will not have to influence politics to stay in Iraq. As to who
is in control it is becoming less and less a simple question. Not
surprisingly, our idiot child president did not learn from Viet Nam and
the Neo Cons around him don't care if we end up in a permanent state of
war with the
I have found an wind turbine that I can use during a hurricane: the CET
Air X Wind Turbine from Cetsolar.com. I'm certainly not going to
harvest all of the hurricane's power (even if was possible) but it will
be something that I can leave out in the wind and not worry about it in
the event of
It reminds me of a story about an old marial arts master who was
challenged to a duel by an arrogant young bully. The old man could not
avoid the conflict without losing face but rather than kill his
opponent outright which he could have done, instead he skillfully kept
out of range of the bu
I expect the occupation to grow. Either the US will influence politics enough to have the appearance of home rule or if that fails then it will be more obvious they are under US control. At any rate something as valuable as all that oil will be commandeered and don't be surprised if the "conflict"
Kirk,
We will always have problems with the US payback times. Look at Iraq,
According to the Geneva convention, US and UK have the responsibility to
create a safe environment for its inhabitants. Instead they created an
unsafe environment and by that allowed and encouraged their troops to
c
on 7/21/05 8:00 PM, Kirk McLoren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I think what I am trying to say is we are on this list because of the costs of
> conventional technology and business paradigms. There has to be a better way,
> especially if mankind is to prosper.
To be sure. The idea that the fun
Biofuels are probably cheaper than petro. When you include the costs of the military in a barrel of mideast oil the real cost is not the quoted one.
The environmental costs are real as well. Unfortunately they are paid in sickness and reduced life -- and usually by the poorest members of humanit
no argument here. but that wasn't the point.
yet at the same time, it was. i mean, if we were to let such considerations
determine our actions--let alone what we are willing to think or imagine--we
wouldn't all be on this list, would we? ;›)
cheers,
-chris b.
on 7/21/05 6:21 PM, Kirk McLo
on 7/21/05 6:21 PM, Kirk McLoren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The machine to harvest the energy is a capital investment and when you
> consider the utilization factor the cost of the harvested energy is not
> competitive.
"Payback period is the most widely used measure for evaluating potenti
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