Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-17 Thread henning
I am very much intersted in these papers, since I am working with Jatropha as an perrenial oil plant, which did not yet undergo agricultural selection for higher yields. You can see more about this plant in my jatropha website http://www.jatropha.org Regards Reinhard Henning "David Presket

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-14 Thread David Preskett
Paddy, I'd be interested too in the papers. Dave goat industries wrote: > there are plans to produce crops of genetically modified oil bearing plants. > The oil extracted could be used directly as a diesel fuel because it is > composed of a high percentage of small chain length molecules. If any

Re: [biofuels-biz] Genetic Engineering

2002-06-06 Thread henning
The oil can be used in modern Diesels also. You have to do some modificaton. I put some addresses of persons and firms in the internet, who do such modifications in Germany. http://www.jatropha.org/p-o-engines/conversion-cars.htm Best regards Reinhard Henning "Eric Ruttan" <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [biofuels-biz] Genetic Engineering

2002-06-06 Thread Keith Addison
So far, this is what we've had from GMOs, as far as biofuels are concerned: http://www.safe2use.com/ca-ipm/01-02-05-study.htm GM Bacteria could destroy all life on earth - Report Klebsiella planticola--The Gene-Altered Monster That Almost Got Away The Deadly Genetically Engineered Bacteria that

Re: [biofuels-biz] Genetic Engineering

2002-06-06 Thread Keith Addison
>Thank you, Keith, for your very ood arguments > >Regards > >Reinhard Henning Thankyou, Reinhard - Thor's was better though, IMHO. regards Keith > >"Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > Hello Chuck Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at

Re: [biofuels-biz] Genetic Engineering

2002-06-06 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Reinhard, Thor and all Jatropha's great, but it's not the only one. I guess which is best depends on the circumstances (as with all things!). Here are some more: Copaifera langsdorfii Desf. Caesalpiniaceae Diesel tree That the oleoresin called copaiba could be obtained by incising the t

Re: [biofuels-biz] Genetic Engineering

2002-06-06 Thread Eric Ruttan
> >Hallo Thor Skov, > >I think I know a plant that is nearly in the way you whish: >This oil, after extraction and sedimentation, can be used directly as a >substitute of diesel in precombustion chamber diesel engines (like Mercedes >personel cars). > Most Modern Diesels do not have a pr

Re: [biofuels-biz] Genetic Engineering

2002-06-06 Thread henning
Thank you, Keith, for your very ood arguments Regards Reinhard Henning "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hello Chuck > > >Strictly from the standpoint of efficiency, growing a plant that produced an > >acceptable yield of fuel for diesel engines without processing any further > >

Re: [biofuels-biz] Genetic Engineering

2002-06-06 Thread henning
Hallo Thor Skov, I think I know a plant that is nearly in the way you whish: It is Jatropha curcas, a shrub, with little demand of water and good soil, which grows in tropical and subtropical countries. It does not stand frost. This shrub (a botanical relative of the castor plant) produces see

Re: [biofuels-biz] Genetic Engineering

2002-06-05 Thread Thor Skov
I agree that it would be marvelous to grow a plant that could produce a diesel-ready fuel that could be had without processing beyond extraction. But, there is no such thing as "running away from the future," since at any given time there are an infinite number of possible futures. Historically,

Embrace the Future? was Re: [biofuels-biz] Genetic Engineering

2002-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
to other cultures > >that are willing to embrace the future. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Genetic Engineering > Hello Chuck > > >Strictly fr

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
--- Original Message - From: Steven Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering > Todd, to the contrary...I realise that cross pollination does occur, that is > how we get new varieties ( otherwise crop breeders would

Re: [biofuels-biz] Genetic Engineering

2002-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Chuck >Strictly from the standpoint of efficiency, growing a plant that produced an >acceptable yield of fuel for diesel engines without processing any further >than extraction and filtering is nearly ideal. >We do need people hanging around with a healthy dose of skepticism, but >running a

[biofuels-biz] Genetic Engineering

2002-06-05 Thread Chuck Ranum
Strictly from the standpoint of efficiency, growing a plant that produced an acceptable yield of fuel for diesel engines without processing any further than extraction and filtering is nearly ideal. We do need people hanging around with a healthy dose of skepticism, but running away from the futur

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-05 Thread Steven Hobbs
mers, seem to > think that the process (and now problem as a result of GMOs) is > some sort of urban myth? > > Todd Swearingen > > - Original Message ----- > From: Steven Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:17 AM > Subject: Re

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering > Well, can I say please get them out, I would like to see the info as well, the > GMO debate is hotting up here, especially since our shire has declared itself a > GMO free shire. Very controversial. I woul

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
>Please send me a copy too. The highest oil yields that i have seen >thus far in my research >are that of oil palm, so its probably going to acquire some genetic >traits from >that species. > >= >Peter Pantilla > Yield is far from the only consideration. Please note that GMO yields have o

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-04 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
See www.percyschmeiser.com on 6/4/02 9:17 PM, Steven Hobbs at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, can I say please get them out, I would like to see the info as well, the > GMO debate is hotting up here, especially since our shire has declared itself > a > GMO free shire. Very controversial. I w

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-04 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Using just precision farming techniques, yields of up to 2.9 tonnes per hectare have been achieved in Northern Germany, for rapeseed. (Korbitz, W. 2000. World-wide Trends in Production and Marketing of Biodiesel. http://www.biodiesel.at/courier_on/index.html Last visited January 8, 2001 T

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-04 Thread Steven Hobbs
Well, can I say please get them out, I would like to see the info as well, the GMO debate is hotting up here, especially since our shire has declared itself a GMO free shire. Very controversial. I would like to be more informed of the debate, considering our local crop institute would not release

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-04 Thread Peter Pantilla
Please send me a copy too. The highest oil yields that i have seen thus far in my research are that of oil palm, so its probably going to acquire some genetic traits from that species. = Peter Pantilla (632)-817-5813 (63)-917-523-1539 __ Do

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-04 Thread r . p . kurz
please dig them out and post or email them to me. i would be most greatful. thanks. regards,roger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archi

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-04 Thread Appal Energy
ng to cost us all. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering > This is not the right way to go. > > > Edward Beggs, BES, MSc > http://www.biofu

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-04 Thread Keith Addison
s, please dig them out. > >Thanx > >Patrick M > - Original Message - > From: goat industries > To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:00 AM > Subject: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering > > > there are plans to produce

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-04 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
uels-biz@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:00 AM > Subject: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering > > > there are plans to produce crops of genetically modified oil bearing plants. > The oil extracted could be used directly as a diesel fuel because it is > compos

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-04 Thread Patrick McBrady
Yes, please dig them out. Thanx Patrick M - Original Message - From: goat industries To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:00 AM Subject: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering there are plans to produce crops of genetically modified oil bearing

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-04 Thread Shukrainternationals
Please do. It helps. Any crop that would assure constant supply of oil for BD will be helpful. Of course, it should be cost-effective too! - Original Message - From: "goat industries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:00 PM Subject: [biofuels-biz] gen

Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-04 Thread martin.brook
Yes please I would appreciate the info mentioned - Original Message - From: goat industries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:00 PM Subject: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering > there are plans to produce crops of genetically modified oil bearing plants.

[biofuels-biz] genetic engineering

2002-06-04 Thread goat industries
there are plans to produce crops of genetically modified oil bearing plants. The oil extracted could be used directly as a diesel fuel because it is composed of a high percentage of small chain length molecules. If anyone wants more info i could dig out the relevant papers. -