[svg-developers] Experiment with artificial gravity in graphs with SVG

2012-08-08 Thread Dailey, David P.
Some of you may remember the Grapher program (http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/grapher/ ) that Eric Elder and I presented at SVG Open 2009, in Mountainview CA. In addition to allowing one to design and edit graphs (linked structures), it also allows the conversion of such a graph to a

RE: [svg-developers] Adobe AIR drops SVG

2010-11-11 Thread Dailey, David P.
, David P. wrote: Citing the marvels of canvas and new CSS features, Adobe has disabled the SVG support in AIR. The statement is a bit odd: a great deal of interest lately is support for SVG Later coupled with a trend toward reduced interest in SVG graphics and finally: renewed interest in rich

RE: [svg-developers] canonical expressions -- part 3: more efficient ways of packing text into rectangles

2010-11-11 Thread Dailey, David P.
Wow! Very interesting papers Jake! I'm very interested in visual languages and am pleased to know that there has been some work done in this area -- and it is strong-looking work as well! One other vaguely related thing (but not so formally presented) was this from SVG Open 2007: SVG

[svg-developers] Adobe AIR drops SVG

2010-11-10 Thread Dailey, David P.
Citing the marvels of canvas and new CSS features, Adobe has disabled the SVG support in AIR. The statement is a bit odd: a great deal of interest lately is support for SVG Later coupled with a trend toward reduced interest in SVG graphics and finally: renewed interest in rich JavaScript

RE: [svg-developers] canonical expressions -- part 2: A challenge: accessbility and symbols of the public domain (wikipedia)

2010-11-08 Thread Dailey, David P.
Oops, the second file I was talking about here was actually http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/pd4.svg That's the familiar copyright free symbol in use by Wikipedia. The basic question is how best to make it semantically correct and visually consistent with the appearance? Cheers David

[svg-developers] CooL tests for browsers

2010-10-18 Thread Dailey, David P.
Here are some CooL tests: volume one - using createElementNS. http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/createElementBrowser.html I'm calling them CooL since they are kind of cool, but I would not like to think they are in any way so definitive as those Ken Kesey might have proffered.

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Stroke width inside the shape -- Bug in Opera 9.61 and IE/ASV ???

2008-12-22 Thread Dailey, David P.
I saw Frank's suggestion and thought yes of course! How straightforward. So I thought I'd check it out to make sure it worked the way we'd expect. Hmmm Bad news! Look at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/halfstroke0.svg (source code included below). Safari and Chrome seem to

RE: [svg-developers] SMIL temporal legend

2008-12-12 Thread Dailey, David P.
Yes, this is possible, I think. You'll want to look at 1.the use of the a (arc) subcommand of path , (see for example, http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/newstuff/arcs.svg) 2. SMIL animation of a path (for example.

[svg-developers] seasonal metamorphosis

2008-12-09 Thread Dailey, David P.
This is something I finished up while giving a final today. http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/newstuff/tilesA.svg The JavaScript animation runs okay in FF, Chrome, and Safari, but the SMIL animation, viewable in Opera or IE/ASV, really helps it out. Watch it for a while, since

RE: [svg-developers] onmousedown() and onclick() at the same time

2008-12-03 Thread Dailey, David P.
Take a look at the following; it lets different events on parts of the group be registered and responded to. Hope it helps David svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; width=100% xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; script![CDATA[ xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;

RE: [svg-developers] object javascript into svg

2008-11-25 Thread Dailey, David P.
At November 25, 2008 8:00 AM Simone wrote: I have an application that use internet explorer and adobe svg viewer and i need to know if is possible insert a javascript object inside an svg. Yes, certainly. Depending on what you mean you can do it manually as in

[svg-developers] Slithering through a dash array

2008-11-23 Thread Dailey, David P.
Take a look at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/followPath13.svg in a browser that supports SMIL (I've tested in IE/ASV or Opera 9.6). I was trying to make it so that the animation of the dash-offset of a path inside a mask would make an object appear to slither, worm-wise, along a

RE: [svg-developers] Re: other things you might not have the time for

2008-11-18 Thread Dailey, David P.
Cool Jake, Thanks, It's way faster than the recursive thing that my student Eric has been working on. Though the quasi-recursive thing (using SMIL) that I have is fast enough, but not very tree like yet. David From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

[svg-developers] Another SVG challenge -- virtual weather station

2008-11-06 Thread Dailey, David P.
For maybe five years now, I have given my Interface Design students a wide variety of possible final projects to choose from [1]. There are a few several on which nobody has made much progress over the years. Today someone showed me a demo of a new beta desktop environment (called BumpTop [2])

RE: [svg-developers] Is inline svg the only option in IE

2008-11-05 Thread Dailey, David P.
Dupemenot wrote: I have been trying to work with svg in IE but it seems to work only if its inline(which has its own disadv). Is it possible to work with regular svg in IE? I have installed the plugin (adobe version 3.03) but still no help. Yes, the plugin does work just fine. It could be

RE: [svg-developers] Interactive access to interpolated states of an SVG SMIL animation

2008-11-03 Thread Dailey, David P.
This is an interesting question, but I'm not sure my answer will be interesting or definitive, but let me go ahead and make a stab at it. If I miss something obvious then others will likely correct the oversight: My first thought was that it may be relative to what is being animated. For

RE: [svg-developers] logarithmic scale in svg

2008-10-30 Thread Dailey, David P.
I'm not sure quite what you mean. One could certainly plot a set of axes in which one axis progressed linearly and the other logarithmically; whence one could plot data as (x, y) pairs into that space. Is that what you're hoping to accomplish? DD From:

RE: [svg-developers] progressive drawing of path -- attempt to use clipPath

2008-10-28 Thread Dailey, David P.
ddHowever, what I did think of was the following: how about I dd stick a copy of the first half of the path (with its animated dd stroke-dash) inside a clipPath and then apply the clipPath to the dd original path. Then shouldn't the growth of the clipping region unveil dd the path as well as its

[svg-developers] progressive drawing of path -- attempt to use clipPath

2008-10-27 Thread Dailey, David P.
Andreas wrote: not sure I fully understand your requirement. Are you looking for a progressive drawing of a path geometry? If yes, you can do this by animating the stroke-dash of a path. Examples are provided: [1] and [2]. Yes; exactly what I was asking for. Pretty clever it is! Now I have

[svg-developers] Papers of tangential interest (perhaps)

2008-10-22 Thread Dailey, David P.
At a recent conference in Cincinnati I gave two papers that might deal with some topics of possible interest to the SVG community: 1. How to generate random polygons (with a polynomial time algorithm). If one were interested in generating quasi random scenery (see also my stuff about proposed

[svg-developers] Composite filters with masks in Opera FF and IE -- standards and tests

2008-10-13 Thread Dailey, David P.
At the web page http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/composite.svg Opera (9.6) and IE/ASV do things surprisingly similar. I had previously suspected not so much similarity would exist ever between complex filters such as feTurbulence with feComposite. The reading of the seed variable in

RE: [svg-developers] Preferred editing environments SVG et al

2008-10-09 Thread Dailey, David P.
Jake wrote: At the moment there is certainly no one-stop-shop IDE for SVG development. It may be conceptually useful, then, to separate development out into several tasks. This way, you can choose which tool is most appropriate for any given task. I would propose that SVG development may be

RE: Preferred editing environments [was: RE: [svg-developers] Hey you all. Just]

2008-10-07 Thread Dailey, David P.
Hi CPKS, I like HTMLKit and have used it for HTML development, but have never gotten SVG to work in it. I tried again today, thinking maybe progress had been made since last time I tried. It was able to point HTML-Kit at a file and open it. I was then able to preview. But as soon as I made

RE: [svg-developers] Re: IE woes: reload does not work

2008-10-03 Thread Dailey, David P.
Andreas, I've never seen that problem using IE6 and IE7 quite a bit. In fact in IE7/ASV3.03 I can't replicate your problem with the file you mention. I'm still running Windows XP though. Here's a fairly complex script that has always seemed to survive reloading just fine.

RE: [svg-developers] Re: IE woes: reload does not work

2008-10-03 Thread Dailey, David P.
Andreas, Yes, I've reloaded a dozen or so times without problems. Zooming works and all. Makes me want to get out on the trails. David From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Neumann Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 12:59 PM To:

RE: [svg-developers] shadow projections -- access to pixel values SVG-IG

2008-10-01 Thread Dailey, David P.
Is this what you had in mind : http://leunen.d.free.fr/prog-blur.svg ? Yes, it is an approximation of a real progressive blur. But not perfect, and it cannot be achieved with a filter [Agreed; and yes that is what I had in mind.] Here is another approximation on the x-axis blur only :

RE: [svg-developers] New to SVG: why the event target is not elment 'test3'?

2008-09-30 Thread Dailey, David P.
Well, the behavior you see is as I would expect. If you were to move your onclick=showCoord(evt) to the superordinate g id='canvas' then target and currentTarget will be different. By placing the evt listener on the top, but invisible rectangle you've made it the only thing receiving the

RE: [svg-developers] loss of time axis ? Any Suggestions ??

2008-09-29 Thread Dailey, David P.
Hi, Try the following in either IE/Adobe plugin or Opera 9 or above or WebKit nightly build: svgxmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; width=100% xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; circle id=X r=50 cx=100 cy=100 animate attributeName=opacity dur=3s values=1;0;0 repeatCount=indefinite/

RE: [svg-developers] shadow projections

2008-09-29 Thread Dailey, David P.
I actually quite like the solution you have, but also agree that additional features would be useful. I'd be quite interested to see an inverse displacement map, since I have gotten the suspicion that the spec may be just fuzzy enough here that the way browsers implement varies considerably, in

[svg-developers] Fun with i-phones (a couple of ideas) -- [web-apps, 3D-accelerometers, accessibility, 3D-canvas]

2008-09-29 Thread Dailey, David P.
Explanation: This is only vaguely SVG-ish but has to do with events, web-apps, interface and drawing. I thought the SVG-developers group would have significant expertise here, and possible interest. (I'm also not sure if a posting to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a non-member would actually work or not

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Of rainbows and doughnuts

2008-09-28 Thread Dailey, David P.
Hi Frank, Very cool. I'm anxious to try out all your suggestions! cheers David From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Frank Bruder Sent: Sun 9/28/2008 10:22 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Of rainbows and

RE: [svg-developers] shadow projections

2008-09-26 Thread Dailey, David P.
David [Leunen] wrote: I'm missing two filters in SVG. Or I don't know if they exist or not. Filters are just complicated enough it's not always easy to tell. Based on the questions you've asked, it sounds like you have a pretty good understanding of what's there and what isn't. The first

RE: [svg-developers] SVG support in IE

2008-09-24 Thread Dailey, David P.
This thread was on my mind again, and as I was trying to figure out if there was a way to write to Adobe about its policy (since my students still need the SVG viewer sometimes), I thought I really oughta reread what the policy (accessible through Adobe SVG Viewer End of Life FAQ

RE: [svg-developers] An i can do that in SVG challenge?

2008-09-18 Thread Dailey, David P.
Hi Ruud! you wrote: http://bomvol.com (bomvol means: chock full) An apt title. I looked at the first couple of pages thinking - yeah a path here and a SMIL here okay... By about page 8 (with some of the overlays and underlays and layouts and cut outs and transition effects) I was

RE: [svg-developers] Re: SVG support detection in browserland

2008-09-12 Thread Dailey, David P.
Jeff wrote: I prefer, where possible to use the HTML object element with HTML fallback for browsers that doesn't support SVG (older browsers and IE). See menu.svgz on my site for an example (http://blog.codedread.com/) One hassle here is that IE/ASV blocks access to much of scripting

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Non-scalable text labels in scalable graphics?

2008-09-10 Thread Dailey, David P.
My first thought was to create some sort of class or even a range of object id's that would allow all the things you want not to scale to be identified, and then to set the scale, on those, independently from the scale of everything else, through script. Then I thought that I had seen a

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Searchable Text and images

2008-09-07 Thread Dailey, David P.
Hi Robert, In case anyone tries to follow the https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330045. they should leave off the period at the end of that string. The example underlying the bug report comes from one of Doug Schepers' tests and uses an iframe with src pointing to an svg

RE: [svg-developers] javascript mouse events and style.setproperty

2008-08-31 Thread Dailey, David P.
Hi, I think this is a bit different than what you have in mind but give a look at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/makeDragDrop.svg The code is rather simple, I think, though I'm always delighted by suggestions on how to simplify things. It seems in your second post on this that

RE: [svg-developers] Drawing Stars

2008-08-25 Thread Dailey, David P.
Here are another couple of approaches to drawing stars. You'll have to use Opera or IE/ASV -- something that supports SMIL: 1. http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/stars3.svg 2. http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/svgopen2008/makestars4.svg Cheers, David -Original

[svg-developers] Status of SVG filters in Safari (or cellphones)

2008-08-21 Thread Dailey, David P.
Does anyone with their ears close the the ground in the WebKit or Safari development know where those folks are with regards to implementing filter? Safari 3.1.2 doesn't seem to do even the simplest of filters at the moment (id est, feGaussianBlur), so I wondered what I can tell folks about

RE: [svg-developers] Re: SVG countdown

2007-12-10 Thread Dailey, David P.
I believe I misled you, Rémi. I don't think there is such a thing as I described, and like you I am complaining that there is not. Sorry. Chaals' solution using symbol and then rotating the href:xlink declaratively may be as close as one can come to what you are looking for, though I did also

RE: [svg-developers] svg clock for mobile

2007-10-24 Thread Dailey, David P.
Yes what he said :) DD From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Erik Dahlström Sent: Wed 10/24/2007 4:07 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] svg clock for mobile On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:47:59 +0200, ddailey [EMAIL

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Carousel Animation - any way declaratively?

2007-09-28 Thread Dailey, David P.
Bruce wrote: The next fun one would be accurate display of elliptical motion - where the velocity is directly related to the distance from the center of attraction - think planetary motion. It is still amazing what you can do with the standard SVG spec. Agreed. I fooled around with something