Re: [svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-11 Thread Aaron
HI again, On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 18:28, skatethere wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: altglyph?? What is altglyph? It is a method to refer to a glyph by id, rather than unicode. See the example I posted earlier. It's quite a bit more cumbersome than

[svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-10 Thread skatethere
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: altglyph?? What is altglyph? It is a method to refer to a glyph by id, rather than unicode. See the example I posted earlier. It's quite a bit more cumbersome than unicode entities. s I don't know enough about private codepage

Re: [svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-09 Thread Chris Lilley
On Wednesday, December 8, 2004, 3:45:31 PM, skatethere wrote: s --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I see how they reach all the musical symbols now in unicode. The combine pieces together or they use symbols from elsewhere in s the unicode set. Which means I

Re: [svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-09 Thread Aaron
Note that, unlike say TrueType, there is no requirement that glyph paths in SVG are a single non-intersecting shape. Even in SVG Tiny, you can have a self-intersecting and disjoint shape. In SVG Full you can put anything as a child of a glyph that you could put as a child of a g. So, in

Re: [svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-08 Thread Aaron
Well I see how they reach all the musical symbols now in unicode. The combine pieces together or they use symbols from elsewhere in the unicode set. Which means I have now no idea how I will get unicode =feta so can I do this? 1D19C STROKE-2 + 1d1a0 STROKE-6 +1D19D STROKE-3MORDENT if

[svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-08 Thread skatethere
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I see how they reach all the musical symbols now in unicode. The combine pieces together or they use symbols from elsewhere in the unicode set. Which means I have now no idea how I will get unicode =feta so can I do this?

Re: [svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-08 Thread Aaron
Hmn I doubt there was a unicode music font when they started and they were creating a special purpose type one font. I don't have to use feta I guess. Anyone know of a unicode font that has all the symbols? I could I guess make my own font if I have to. but I am not sure how to use the

Re: [svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-08 Thread Thomas DeWeese
Aaron wrote: Hmn I doubt there was a unicode music font when they started and they were creating a special purpose type one font. I don't have to use feta I guess. I would use Feta and provide a mapping from characters to glyphs that you feel is useful. An SVG font can have ligatures

[svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-06 Thread dpfaster
My goodness, your message was a strange coincidence. My final school project is to do just that, except I don't use lilypond. It's not exactly great and I'm hoping to do far more improvements on it in the future (and I work on it alone) http://www.dcs.napier.ac.uk/~00171492 Not the best

[svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-06 Thread dpfaster
The problem with this is that you rely on a font that implements this range of unicode characters. So far I haven't been able to find any (not free anyway). If you know any, please share :) Cheers -Jean-Loup You should convert those to the equivalent Unicode characters during the

[svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-06 Thread dpfaster
You mean the mailing list? Sure, but I must warn you I'm going to be busy in the next month or two (as I've been thos last 3 or 4 months working on this). I'd be happy to share my experience and mutually improve our applications :) -Jean-Loup Hi Jean-Loup, how about joining lilyxml. We

Re: [svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-06 Thread Aaron
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 20:55, Robin Berjon wrote: Aaron wrote: Well I thought to convert/code the feta font since it is one of the best music fonts out there. Is it a ttf font? no type1 aa If so you can use the ttf2svg tool that comes with Batik. See

Re: [svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-06 Thread Aaron
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 20:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean the mailing list? yes the mailing list and if you can do more cvs access. Aaron Sure, but I must warn you I'm going to be busy in the next month or two (as I've been thos last 3 or 4 months working on this). I'd be happy to

Re: [svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-06 Thread Aaron
Great I already have fontforge installed and did a converison although I didn't know how to add the unicode stuff or whether to start from a type1 or first convert to ttf. Thanks this is starting to get interesting. Aaron On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 23:54, skatethere wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED],

[svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-06 Thread skatethere
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great I already have fontforge installed and did a converison although I didn't know how to add the unicode stuff or whether to start from a type1 or first convert to ttf. Well, I recommend not converting to ttf, as the extra

Re: [svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-06 Thread Robin Berjon
skatethere wrote: But if you do so, you'll have to manually create a list of unicode values and corresponding glyph-name from the SVG font. A list of the glyph-names can be obtained from the SVG font (in a non-XML-aware fashion) by: perl -ne

[svg-developers] Re: music and fonts and graphics

2004-12-06 Thread skatethere
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: skatethere wrote: But if you do so, you'll have to manually create a list of unicode values and corresponding glyph-name from the SVG font. A list of the glyph-names can be obtained from the SVG font (in a non-XML-aware