Re: [sword-devel] Help converting text to imp

2011-06-15 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: python is too big a weapon for this. Perhaps for you. Some people don't like to put together pipes of that size and/or don't grasp Bash well enough to see what is going on in your pipes. Just offering another

Re: [sword-devel] Looking for vpl reference

2011-06-11 Thread Greg Hellings
I would also like to say that if the main issue appears to revolve around character encodings and the Windows utils work while a hand-build Linux version fumbles on the encoding, it is very possible that the Linux built versions are lacking ICU, which I believe is used by SWORD to help with

Re: [sword-devel] RVR2011

2011-06-11 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Mike Hart just_mik...@yahoo.com wrote: Based on the text seeming to follow the Assembly de Yahweh's theology and not following any known Greek manuscript, I'm going to have to suggest it is flawed enough that it needs significant revision before it could be

Re: [sword-devel] Looking for vpl reference

2011-06-10 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Angel Candelaria linuxarec...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks David for your insights. The module I'm working on is called Reina Valera Restaurada 2011 which you can find at http://www.asambleadeyahweh.com . This version was made based on RVR1909 by José Alvarez, the

Re: [sword-devel] Rendering added words for languages that don't use italics?

2011-06-02 Thread Greg Hellings
David, On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:12 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks Greg, That's a very helpful summary of the multiple difficulties, not the least of which is manpower. It almost makes one wonder how anything got done to support added words (even for the KJV), despite

Re: [sword-devel] Rendering added words for languages that don't use italics?

2011-06-02 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 6:32 PM, David (Mailing List Addy) davidsli...@gmx.net wrote: On Friday, May 27, 2011 11:29:47 AM Greg Hellings wrote: Of course, that provides no help to those modules who might use other markers (NIV-inspired half brackets, full brackets, I've seen texts that use

Re: [sword-devel] Rendering added words for languages that don't use italics?

2011-05-27 Thread Greg Hellings
Well let's see what we would need done: 1) A universally agreed-upon method of rendering added words for every language we support modules in and logic to note the module's language and render accordingly. This would be a tedious undertaking, although not particularly complicated to implement.

Re: [sword-devel] Display versification name in the module managers?

2011-05-17 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:43 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Just a thought... As we move towards front-end support for modules with alternate versification, might it be useful for the module managers to include a column that displays the name of the versification? cf.

Re: [sword-devel] How many of our Bible modules are red letter editions?

2011-05-10 Thread Greg Hellings
$ grep -r /space/home/ftp/pub/sword/raw/mods.d/ -e 'RedLetterWords' /space/home/ftp/pub/sword/raw/mods.d/thaikjv.conf:GlobalOptionFilter=OSISRedLetterWords /space/home/ftp/pub/sword/raw/mods.d/rusvzh.conf:GlobalOptionFilter=GBFRedLetterWords

Re: [sword-devel] Ubuntu 11.04

2011-04-30 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote: Hi there  Currently, Natty 10.04 offers a binary for Xiphos that won't install because Xulrunner is now not only deprecated but marked as 'forbidden' (whatever that means).  Bibletime is OK however. This is known.

Re: [sword-devel] Pilcrows in the KJV Apocrypha?

2011-04-25 Thread Greg Hellings
I have a hard copy that is KJV Old Testament and parallel KJV and RV New Testament, put out around 1884 or so, right before the Revised Version Old Testament was released. The Apocrypha only appears in a single translation which I assume means that it is the KJV translation. I just spot-checked

Re: [sword-devel] Pilcrows in the KJV Apocrypha?

2011-04-25 Thread Greg Hellings
According to the wiki article on the Revised Version, my apocrypha must by the King James translation, since the RV of the apocrypha was not released until 1895. --Greg On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: I have a hard copy that is KJV Old Testament

Re: [sword-devel] Pilcrows in the KJV Apocrypha?

2011-04-25 Thread Greg Hellings
My print copy does have the one at I Esdras 2:8 but not at 3:13. 4:13 I already mentioned. While the facsimile is nice, it is not particularly relevant for us. Our KJV is not the KJV of 1611 but rather of 1769 or whatever the date was, so we should not base our module off of that facsimile.

Re: [sword-devel] Rendering added words for languages that don't use italics?

2011-04-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Alternatively, the more semantic HTML markup of em might be useful? There has been a move away from pushing em and strong in the HTML world, since it has been recognized that italics do not always semantically mean emphasis

[sword-devel] CSS Again... (was Re: Rendering added words for languages that don't use italics?)

2011-04-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:35 AM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: In principle, I like the idea of CSS, but I think there are difficulties with CSS. It presumes the elements and structure of what is being styled and that the display can handle it. Are these problems greater than our

Re: [sword-devel] Rendering added words for languages that don't use italics?

2011-04-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: The i interpretation happens very late in our chain - at rendering filter level. And I would think it is probably a wrong decision. It would be trivial to change that to em which in turn might be rendered more likely in

Re: [sword-devel] CSS Again... (was Re: Rendering added words for languages that don't use italics?)

2011-04-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Again, to be rude and top-post, not having a specific line in the message to which I wish to comment... I don't believe anyone is against HTML rendering frontends supplying stylesheets to their output. I believe

Re: [sword-devel] apostrophes in locales

2011-04-15 Thread Greg Hellings
The issue has been discussed at length in other threads in recent time, leading to very vocal and differing opinions. I don't pretend to remember the exact outcome for fear of remembering it incorrectly. But three issue was not cut-and-dry. --Greg On Apr 15, 2011 1:29 PM, David Haslam

Re: [sword-devel] KJV vs Russian Synodal versification comparison

2011-04-12 Thread Greg Hellings
Andy, Not pretending this is a complete list, but at present BibleTime supports all the versifications that SWORD understand. Xiphos partially understands them and support is in the works, but at present it only has full support for the KJV versification. The SWORD Project for Windows (I believe)

Re: [sword-devel] Using Perl script usfm2osos.pl in Windows?

2011-04-11 Thread Greg Hellings
David, I haven't used usfm2osis.pl, but are you sure it is capable of handling multiple files at one time anywhere? Usually the file glob is expanded by the shell (at least in the Unix world) so the program will actually receive multiple distinct arguments expanded out to match each file in the

Re: [sword-devel] Using Perl script usfm2osos.pl in Windows?

2011-04-11 Thread Greg Hellings
into this problem in Windows, but I don't remember how I solved it. I think I switched my OS. :) I agree this utility should be more Windows-friendly. I just don't know how to do it. Daniel On 04/11/2011 08:21 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: David, I haven't used usfm2osis.pl, but are you sure

Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's commentaries

2011-02-21 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:58 AM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: We don't have that as a solution, but with a little effort, you could do it. Basically, you'd export the file using mod2imp, then pare down the output to what you want and rebuild the module with (iirc) imp2mod. Once the

Re: [sword-devel] Front-end localization during installation?

2011-02-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:55 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: I believe that anything that uses the NSIS installer can do this. I think this is the case for BibleCS and BibleDesktop. The trick is to only use the NSIS provided, stock messages. Note: this only applies to installation

[sword-devel] Portugese Bibles

2011-02-15 Thread Greg Hellings
Just had another user in #bibletime asking about Portugese translations of the Bible. I pointed him to the CrossWire repository to download our copy of the Biblia Livre there. He says that the module only includes the New Testament and Psalms, but the Biblia Livre website now (since Jan 28)

Re: [sword-devel] Per Project news: - was Re: CrossWire news

2011-02-14 Thread Greg Hellings
Sounds like you are manually constructing your SQL instead of using a prepared statement with bound variables? That should take care of the problem. --Greg On Feb 14, 2011 7:32 AM, Ben Morgan benpmor...@gmail.com wrote: Vary the following:

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire news

2011-02-13 Thread Greg Hellings
Peter, I think it looks really good! Great work! One thought about the layout, if you'll entertain it, is to maybe give a little more padding between the columns and the edge of the page and between each column. Since they are not arranged in a grid, having them as close as table cells feels a

Re: [sword-devel] Unusual markup in the Treasury of David

2011-01-27 Thread Greg Hellings
be up on the wiki page, feel free to put it there and point people to https://code.launchpad.net/~greg-hellings/sword/mod2osis which is where I keep the publicly visible versions of the work. I don't know if that has my latest pushes, but it is much more robust and up-to-date than the versions

Re: [sword-devel] Chromium OS and CrossWire?

2011-01-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Chris Burrell ch...@burrell.me.uk wrote: Interesting question. The online version of STEP will function on Chromium OS since it's a web app based. The server side is based on JSword, so if they one day bring in Java we're alright - if not, then we might

[sword-devel] Module Display Names

2011-01-19 Thread Greg Hellings
This is just a query/brain dump as an exposition on an issue which I believe came up on bt-devel (maybe it was here). The title of a work, as displayed by both Xiphos and BibleTime (still the only two SWORD applications I've used, so forgive me if I have left out others in my brain dump as I

Re: [sword-devel] Module Display Names

2011-01-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Ben Morgan benpmor...@gmail.com wrote: There is the Description field for long names and Abbreviation for an abbreviated form (an alternative to using the module name in theory). Not sure what frontends if any support Abbreviation though. Description is

Re: [sword-devel] Module Display Names

2011-01-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com writes: Description is overkill and probably not fit for display in a module selection widget - a description for the module would go something like: Dr. Doe's classic commentary

Re: [sword-devel] Module Display Names

2011-01-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Ben Morgan benpmor...@gmail.com wrote: What I've used in BPBible in a few places is Name - Description (i.e. ESV - English Standard Version). The abbreviation at the start (hopefully) means that if the rest is cut of it shouldn't matter too much. I think this

Re: [sword-devel] Module Display Names

2011-01-19 Thread Greg Hellings
long. Maybe, but hardly out of the ordinary for older titles. Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com writes: One of my modules is [CONNOT] which is a decent abbreviation and it fits in the limits of SWORD.  Currently I have the About field set toConsultant Notes and the About field set

Re: [sword-devel] Module Display Names

2011-01-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: I think putting abbreviation first always is nice because it is easier to scan for (i.e. ESV is much more recognizable than English Standard Version).  Putting the Abbreviation on the front makes it possible to scan

Re: [sword-devel] Module Display Names

2011-01-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Ben Morgan benpmor...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: Since we have an abbreviation field already designated for the conf, perhaps we should make it required?  Or perhaps applications could use

Re: [sword-devel] Module Display Names

2011-01-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com wrote: Whether or not you have a German localised name (which was I think discussed and could be supported with Abbreviation_de, but opens another can of worms), even Luther 1545 is a marked improvement over GerLut1545. I

Re: [sword-devel] Module Display Names

2011-01-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: Ben Morgan benpmor...@gmail.com writes: When this last came up was when it was decided to put the Abbreviation field in the .conf files, but I don't know that a) it was done in any of the conf files b) any frontend

Re: [sword-devel] Bibtex for modules

2011-01-12 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Trevor Jenkins trevor.jenk...@suneidesis.com wrote: On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Von: Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net I therefore consider you a user and not a particularly friendly one. s/user/bystander/ One should never

Re: [sword-devel] Bibtex for modules

2011-01-12 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: This is an excellent idea, but I worry about BibTeX being the wrong format to encourage academic use. I love LaTeX, personally. I just spent a day putting together a reader for my class in LaTeX. But I'm probably in a

Re: [sword-devel] Bibtex for modules

2011-01-11 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Trevor Jenkins trevor.jenk...@suneidesis.com wrote: But I still am confused about what it is that consistutes the source. The module? The module content and therefore the original publisher (and possible copyright holder)? If someone is quoting out of the SWORD

Re: [sword-devel] Bibtex for modules

2011-01-11 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Trevor Jenkins trevor.jenk...@suneidesis.com wrote: On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: While I'd have no quibble with bibliographic data being recorded in .conf files it should be there in a neutral form and specific functions

Re: [sword-devel] BibleTech:2011 is in Seattle, March 25/26

2010-12-29 Thread Greg Hellings
I am contemplating attending. Depends on how life and finances shake out in the next few weeks and months. --Greg On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:53 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Is anyone from CrossWire attending and/or speaking at http://www.bibletechconference.com/

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Repositories

2010-12-28 Thread Greg Hellings
Why does the News.txt need to have a format we talk about? There are already perfectly good definitions for news lists and feeds already around. See RSS, Atom and related technologies. --Greg On Dec 28, 2010 11:25 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Thanks for the input Jonathan,

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Repositories

2010-12-28 Thread Greg Hellings
According to Troy it could function as a simple hello message, or it could function as a news list. That is why I suggest RSS as fulfilling both needs. If you want to limit it to a single plain blob, by all means, make it just a plaintext, rtf or html file that is staticly fetched and displayed.

Re: [sword-devel] Parsing Devanagari digits in Cross References

2010-12-16 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 9:03 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: One of my contacts mentioned something in an email today. I used the USFM to OSIS python program from Snowfall with quite a bit of changes to make it work with  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari Devanagari  

Re: [sword-devel] WBTI/BL modules in CrossWire Beta

2010-12-09 Thread Greg Hellings
Beta more or less is our separate repository. In reality our end users shouldn't be in Beta. In the past modules have been known to get stuck in Beta for uncertain reasons. I'd take a guess the reasons involve some mixture of the following: 1) Very few people knowing exactly why a module was

[sword-devel] CMake Sample Scripts

2010-12-07 Thread Greg Hellings
All, For those who would like to try out the CMake build system, but you don't want to learn a new way to invoke the SWORD build process, I have added a pair of sample scripts to the cmake/ directory. Both of the samples will build the shared (.so) library, Perl and Python bindings,

Re: [sword-devel] Why You Should Love SWORD 103 - What Is A Filters

2010-12-03 Thread Greg Hellings
I realize we're on #3 already, I just wanted to say thanks for this set of SWORD 10* emails. And I hope our Wiki Czar find the time to translate these into a nice series of intro/tutorials that we can maintain and update as some of us use these to dive deeper into the codebase that has supported

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options

2010-12-02 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:08 AM, Ben Morgan benpmor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Greg, I wasn't suggesting that each user maintain a stylesheet, but if the application lets users supply their own, such a stylesheet could be created and distributed (it could even potentially target individual

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options

2010-12-01 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com wrote: From an application developer's point of view, I'm not convinced that per module CSS is a good idea.  Here are some reasons: 1. I'm not convinced of well-defined use of HTML+CSS classes.  Some things may be

Re: [sword-devel] XSLT vs. C++

2010-12-01 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking as a BPBible developer, I would tend to prefer C++ filters to XSLT.  Here are some reasons why: 1. It works now (well, OK, it doesn't always work as well as one might like, but it does work). It works for our

Re: [sword-devel] cipherraw

2010-12-01 Thread Greg Hellings
This is not true. He was answered on IRC. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:34 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: No-one has answered Peter yet.  O Come all ye experts! David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/cipherraw-tp3045962p3067825.html Sent

Re: [sword-devel] cipherraw

2010-12-01 Thread Greg Hellings
, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:24 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: Was it a bug or a usage problem. If it is a bug, I'll submit a bug report in Jira for it. On 12/01/2010 01:38 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: This is not true.  He was answered on IRC. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:34 PM, David Haslamdfh

[sword-devel] Bible/Commentary headings

2010-12-01 Thread Greg Hellings
One of the commentaries I have has a book header (in this instance it is for 1 Peter) which is held in the module in the key 1 Peter 0:0. Behavior concerning that introduction varies with different applications. 1) example/cmdline/lookup 'A Commentary on I Peter' '1 Peter 0:0' This works

Re: [sword-devel] Bible/Commentary headings

2010-12-01 Thread Greg Hellings
    in the valley of decision. Giôên 3:14 (ESV) On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: One of the commentaries I have has a book header (in this instance it is for 1 Peter) which is held in the module in the key 1 Peter 0:0. Behavior concerning that introduction

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options

2010-12-01 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Ben Morgan benpmor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Greg, I agree the mechanism is simple enough; the ramifications are potentially not. Personally, I would mostly prefer that modules cannot provide their own stylesheets. On the web, every site has its own style; in

[sword-devel] Markup Options (was Re: Config file for thml module)

2010-11-30 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Trevor Jenkins trevor.jenk...@suneidesis.com wrote: On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: h1ROFL/h1 is semantic markup. It is a level 1 heading. Given

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-30 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: OSIS 212 modules ThML 156 modules Plaintext 42 modules GBF 30 modules TEI 22 modules And Xiphos' repository has another 41 ThML and 7 OSIS (I also see 1 plain, 1 TEI and 1 GBF) which makes it 219 OSIS and 197 ThML.

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options (was Re: Config file for thml module)

2010-11-30 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Von: Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com However, a few problems arise.  Namely, I have no control over the display of the text in my target applications (Xiphos and Bibletime) when I use OSIS.  You, being

[sword-devel] Converting Formats (was Re: Config file for thml module)

2010-11-30 Thread Greg Hellings
and being asked to undertake my current task for Wycliffe. I can easily provide you what I have if you think it would be of use. --Greg On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: On 11/30/2010 6:58 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Chris

Re: [sword-devel] XSLT vs. C++

2010-11-30 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Having finally returned from a hectic 2 weeks of conferences, and lots to do before leaving for Christmas, I'm not sure I'm up for a heated, passionate debate about technologies right now, but by all means, please

Re: [sword-devel] XSLT vs. C++

2010-11-30 Thread Greg Hellings
we could take hints and its XSL as well. --Greg On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: snip ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Greg Hellings
And ThML continues to be used to create Bible modules because it is the best tool for module creators who care about their presentation more than some semantic dream world of markup. To create a ThML Bible or commentary you will need to use the imp format and then just markup within the verses

[sword-devel] Module Markup was Re: Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Greg Hellings
On Monday, November 29, 2010, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On 11/29/2010 12:30 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: And ThML continues to be used to create Bible modules because it is the best tool for module creators who care about their presentation The problem I have with that part

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Greg Hellings
OP's question has been answered at least twice in this thread. xml2gbs is the wrong utility. I don't even remember if that is the proper utility for anything or if it has been superseded, but it is definitely the wrong utility for him. I gave more extensive directions on using ThML in my earlier

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Trevor Jenkins trevor.jenk...@suneidesis.com wrote: On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: And ThML continues to be used to create Bible modules because it is the best tool for module creators who care about their presentation more

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: h1ROFL/h1 is semantic markup. It is a level 1 heading. Given that this is one of HTML's title markup, one probably can deduce that it is a title. Note that IE, FireFox, Opera, Safari are not consistent in how they render

Re: [sword-devel] osis2mod debugging/titles

2010-11-17 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: On 17/11/10 13:42, DM Smith wrote: On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:06 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: BTW are these canonical titles or are they added in to show what is lost in translation? WRT OSIS, canonical is not meant to be a

[sword-devel] Proper Import Tools (Was: Re: osis2mod debugging/titles)

2010-11-17 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:27 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm using IMP2VS to make a module, and used this code to display the 22 acrostic headings in Psalm 119. Example: $$$Psalms 119:9 title canonical=true subType=x-preverse type=acrosticforeignBET./foreign/title ¿Con qué

Re: [sword-devel] osis2mod debugging/titles

2010-11-16 Thread Greg Hellings
For better or worse, no one with both the knowledge of the engine and the time to contribute extensively likes using DOM or XSLT nor established XML libraries. You are far from the first person to suggest this route. In other news, JSword converts all modules to OSIS XML and then processes them

Re: [sword-devel] Display of bookGroup titles?

2010-11-13 Thread Greg Hellings
David, I don't believe that osis2mod preserves these titles. If it does, then it would preserve them in Genesis 0:0 or maybe [ Testament 1 Heading ]. And only newer versions of osis2mod would use it. By default, most front ends do not usually display either of those sections for Bibles unless

Re: [sword-devel] YouVersion application for facebook

2010-11-13 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:20 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: As of July 2010,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook  has more than 500 million active users, which is about one person for every fourteen in the world. As of September Facebook passed Google as the most

Re: [sword-devel] RSS feeds and news page

2010-11-11 Thread Greg Hellings
I have had some success in the past with manipulating RSS feeds in JavaScript and certainly know my way around widgetizing a website. I could pretty quickly whip up a few client-side modifications to the page if we want. The whole aggragate feed could be dynamically pulled and assembled,

Re: [sword-devel] Why does mod2osis omit titles in the output?

2010-11-10 Thread Greg Hellings
A part of my sanity goes away every time someone asks any question about the quality of mod2osis when they've been around these forums before. http://tinyurl.com/23vewgb In particular look at number 5 on that list. The mod2osis as included in the engine does not even produce well-formed XML let

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Module Repository Wiki

2010-11-09 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com wrote: A lot here depends on evaluation of pros and cons.  I

[sword-devel] API Documentation

2010-11-08 Thread Greg Hellings
Developers All, I have updated the Doxygen documentation available on http://www.crosswire.org/~ghellings/ to include the 1.6.2 release versions as well as the latest Subversion as of last night. I have also created a few little Bash scripts to make updating the documentation trivial for me. I

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Module Repository Wiki

2010-11-07 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com wrote: A lot here depends on evaluation of pros and cons.  I personally support HTTP, zipped modules, and one central file (like mods.d.tar.gz) to give a list of all the books and where to find them for at least some of the

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Module Repository Wiki

2010-11-05 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: I think Troy, the concern is correct. For the publisher with some decent IT muscle and budget a proper repo must be better, but for the small town church with a website and a couple of modules to share - zip and http is

Re: [sword-devel] HTTP Transport support (was: Remote Module Repository Wiki)

2010-11-05 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Thanks for the suggestion Weston, I had no idea WebDAV allowed programmatic traversal of remote content. That's great to know! I wonder at the value of depending on WebDAV to solve our problem though. Every

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Module Repository Wiki

2010-11-05 Thread Greg Hellings
A year or so ago I wrote the shell of a (PHP) website which would allow a user to browse various selected modules, purchase one, create a unique encryption key for that user and encrypt the module for them. It would then give the user a single download which could be installed with a Python/Qt

[sword-devel] SWIG Bindings (Was: Re: What is a Sword module?)

2010-11-05 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: On 11/05/2010 02:41 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: ... would require some effort to be put into the SWIG bindings to provide especially a missing binding for the STL multimap class. Yeah, in C++ it is nice to be able

Re: [sword-devel] What is a Sword module?

2010-11-04 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:22 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On Nov 4, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Robert Hunt wrote: Looking at http://crosswire.org/wiki/Main_Page (and elsewhere), I don't see any documentation for the Sword module format. Is it documented anywhere other than in the code

Re: [sword-devel] v11n Question

2010-11-02 Thread Greg Hellings
Troy, There are a variety of versification schemes which can be specified when you import the module. Based on your selection, the tool will append extra verses to the nearest verse (I use the term 'nearest' in a sort of nebulous undefined way, since it varies based on where you are in the

Re: [sword-devel] Diatheke web-page needs updating

2010-10-28 Thread Greg Hellings
I thought diatheke was officially classified as abandonware? --Greg On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:18 AM, David Haslam d.has...@ukonline.co.uk wrote: Diatheke is currently version 4.5, but you'd hardly think so if you visited http://www.crosswire.org/sword/diatheke/

Re: [sword-devel] [mobile-devel] Bishop (Android C++ SWORD)

2010-10-26 Thread Greg Hellings
Just some notes on the applications overall before I get to performance testing (I realize this is more proof-of-concept, so I present these as things which someone who wants to transform this into a production app might take into account) Downloading is very slow, even over my 4G connection with

Re: [sword-devel] SVG module (an idea)

2010-10-25 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:43 PM, David davidsli...@gmx.net wrote: On Tuesday, September 21, 2010 01:50:11 pm Peter von Kaehne wrote: Hi guys, I just saw this here in Wikimedia commons: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Ampel.svg It is an svg file which has java script

Re: [sword-devel] Apocrypha/Deutercanonical Books

2010-10-22 Thread Greg Hellings
I have no reason to think that Bibletime does not support these modules. I'm not at my machine, so I don't know for sure, but I believe it does. --Greg On Oct 22, 2010 10:24 AM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On 10/22/2010 11:08 AM, Barry Drake wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 04:54 -0700,

Re: [sword-devel] Autotools Build

2010-10-20 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Do you have a mods.d/ folder or mods.conf file in your current working directory when you run the utilities? CWD takes precedence over most other settings. I just tried running the commands from within my ~/.sword

Re: [sword-devel] imp2vs does not compile Revelation properly

2010-10-20 Thread Greg Hellings
David, I have confirmed your problem with Revelation importing. Using the WEB as you did I executed $ mod2imp WEB WEB.imp $ imp2vs WEB.imp -z -o ~/.sword/modules/texts/ztext/web2/ $ diatheke -b WEB2 -k jude.1.7 Jude 1:7: Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them, having, in the

Re: [sword-devel] imp2vs does not compile Revelation properly

2010-10-20 Thread Greg Hellings
David, On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:33 AM, David Haslam d.has...@ukonline.co.uk wrote: Thanks Greg, Getting another CrossWire volunteer to reproduce the issue is usually more than half the battle. Aside: Sometimes, I have almost felt that my observations had fallen on deaf ears. Both

Re: [sword-devel] 1.6.2

2010-10-20 Thread Greg Hellings
I will be home in about 2 hours and able to test then. --Greg On Oct 20, 2010 4:37 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: OK Karl, David, Greg, Out of suspicion from your zLD comment, I added a delete (which should have been there anyway) for the module in imp2mod before exiting.

Re: [sword-devel] 1.6.2 (was: imp2vs does not compile Revelation properly)

2010-10-20 Thread Greg Hellings
from people already experimenting with this. does it happen when creating non-compressed modules (ModDrv=RawText)? The other issues we're waiting on I think involved Greg Hellings. Greg, any progress on nailing down the issue you're having with utilities sometimes finding your modules

Re: [sword-devel] 1.6.2

2010-10-20 Thread Greg Hellings
Troy, That appears to have solved the problem. I now have module content all the way through Revelation 22:21. --Greg On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: On 10/20/2010 11:18 PM, David Haslam wrote: Troy, It's late evening here, too late for me to

[sword-devel] Autotools Build

2010-10-19 Thread Greg Hellings
Sword keeps stressing me out whenever I try to build with autotools on a new system. I did not have ICU installed, because I don't care about its functionality. Rather than default to not build with ICU or error and tell me I need to expressly specify --without-icu, configure quietly said it was

Re: [sword-devel] Autotools Build

2010-10-19 Thread Greg Hellings
Fixing that problem with the autotools shouldn't be overly difficult, but I don't know if it is desired. And I'm not installing the library to .sword, rather I'm installing modules there both by hand and with installmgr. Sorry for the confusion. --Greg On Oct 19, 2010 3:49 PM, Matthew Talbert

Re: [sword-devel] Autotools Build

2010-10-19 Thread Greg Hellings
[Install] DataPath=/home/greg/.sword SWORD_HOME is set to the same value. On Oct 19, 2010 4:42 PM, Matthew Talbert ransom1...@gmail.com wrote: And I'm not installing the library to .sword, rather I'm installing modules there both by hand and with installmgr. Sorry for the confusion. Do you

Re: [sword-devel] Autotools Build

2010-10-19 Thread Greg Hellings
Talbert ransom1...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: [Install] DataPath=/home/greg/.sword Why this instead of /usr/share/sword? What you're basically making sword do is repetitively look in the same directories which may cause

Re: [sword-devel] Autotools Build

2010-10-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Matthew Talbert ransom1...@gmail.com wrote: I made those adjustments after the default settings failed to locate the modules in my user home directory. After clearing the environment variable and setting /etc/sword.conf back to /usr/local/sword, the command line

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS quote marker attribute type=x-doNotGeneratePunctuation

2010-10-16 Thread Greg Hellings
David, I have a basic Python script that I use with the mod2osis work I've done that which programmatically compares two modules, verse by verse, to be sure that their contents are identical. At present it only compares them with all their default settings (so it might not grab notes, etc and

Re: [sword-devel] python

2010-10-05 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: On 05/10/10 17:30, Caleb Barr wrote: Hi all, Brand new here -- I'd like to get at some of this data, but I don't know C++.  I heard rumors that there was a way to do it with Python? There are bindings. Here's a sample

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