[systemd-devel] dependency failed for the ifup managed network interface

2015-09-06 Thread Paul Young
Hi, I just downloaded and built the Zabbix appliance within VMWare. So it's a virtual machine. I used the ISO package from here: http://www.zabbix.com/download.php Built the machine and then started to bring up some interfaces. Of the two I have assigned IP addresses to and bring up I get a me

Re: [systemd-devel] Method to solve a "ordering cycle"

2015-09-06 Thread Daniel Spannbauer
Am 09/06/2015 um 03:50 PM schrieb Lennart Poettering: > On Wed, 02.09.15 17:08, Daniel Spannbauer (d...@marco.de) wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I often have a ordering cycle so a service is deleted at boot. >> >> Is there a standard way of getting rid of that cycles or to find the >> cause of them? > We

Re: [systemd-devel] Multi seats setup How-to

2015-09-06 Thread arnaud gaboury
On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sun, 06.09.15 18:24, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Lennart Poettering >> wrote: >> > On Sun, 06.09.15 16:31, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: >> > >> > I fear thi

Re: [systemd-devel] Multi seats setup How-to

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 06.09.15 18:24, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > On Sun, 06.09.15 16:31, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > I fear this newer Plugable device is not as carefully designed as the > > old

Re: [systemd-devel] containers

2015-09-06 Thread arnaud gaboury
On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sun, 06.09.15 17:49, Michał Zegan (webczat_...@poczta.onet.pl) wrote: > >> Hello. >> >> Is systemd-nspawn intended to eventually become usable for full system >> containers/general use with enough security to run things like vps hostin

Re: [systemd-devel] Multi seats setup How-to

2015-09-06 Thread arnaud gaboury
On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sun, 06.09.15 16:31, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: > > I fear this newer Plugable device is not as carefully designed as the > older ones, and uses non-recognizable vendor/product ids... Thus we > cannot really add

Re: [systemd-devel] user sessions and remote logins

2015-09-06 Thread Chaiken, Alison
I asked: >> When I ssh into the same host from a remote, 'loginctl list-sessions' >> shows that no new session is created, and XDG_SESSION_COOKIE variable is >> unset. > > Lennart responded: > Yeah, this should have the same effect. Maybe "pam_systemd" is missing > from the PAM configuration

Re: [systemd-devel] containers

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 06.09.15 17:49, Michał Zegan (webczat_...@poczta.onet.pl) wrote: > Hello. > > Is systemd-nspawn intended to eventually become usable for full system > containers/general use with enough security to run things like vps hosting? > How much is missing to be able to do that, or maybe it alrea

Re: [systemd-devel] Controlling user processes with systemd+cgroups

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 06.09.15 17:44, Michał Zegan (webczat_...@poczta.onet.pl) wrote: > if you would override the slice in the unit file using override files it > would not work? No it won't. Currently systemd hardcodes the slice and does not allow it to be overriden. > Also not sure, I think I understand th

[systemd-devel] containers

2015-09-06 Thread Michał Zegan
Hello. Is systemd-nspawn intended to eventually become usable for full system containers/general use with enough security to run things like vps hosting? How much is missing to be able to do that, or maybe it already can? Like you have user namespaces support that probably adds more security

Re: [systemd-devel] Controlling user processes with systemd+cgroups

2015-09-06 Thread Michał Zegan
if you would override the slice in the unit file using override files it would not work? Also not sure, I think I understand the question as "how to create cgroup per user group" but well, I may understand it wrong. W dniu 06.09.2015 o 17:25, Lennart Poettering pisze: On Sun, 06.09.15 17:05, M

Re: [systemd-devel] Controlling user processes with systemd+cgroups

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 06.09.15 17:05, Michał Zegan (webczat_...@poczta.onet.pl) wrote: > Well, actually I believe you could mess with unit configuration overrides, > couldn't you? > I was experimenting once by giving the user test 1% of cpu using cgroup > controls. Well, you can of course configure limits on i

Re: [systemd-devel] Multi seats setup How-to

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 06.09.15 16:31, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: I fear this newer Plugable device is not as carefully designed as the older ones, and uses non-recognizable vendor/product ids... Thus we cannot really add an ID_AUTO_SEAT rule from upstream for it. Pity. Lennart -- Lenna

Re: [systemd-devel] Controlling user processes with systemd+cgroups

2015-09-06 Thread Michał Zegan
Well, actually I believe you could mess with unit configuration overrides, couldn't you? I was experimenting once by giving the user test 1% of cpu using cgroup controls. W dniu 06.09.2015 o 16:14, Lennart Poettering pisze: On Thu, 03.09.15 14:57, Benjamin Rose (benr...@math.princeton.edu) wro

Re: [systemd-devel] Multi seats setup How-to

2015-09-06 Thread arnaud gaboury
On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sun, 06.09.15 16:02, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> > That's awfully generic... >> > >> > I'd really just be interested in vendor/product ids if the usb hub >> > that is built into your docking station, where the

Re: [systemd-devel] Multi seats setup How-to

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 06.09.15 16:02, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: > > That's awfully generic... > > > > I'd really just be interested in vendor/product ids if the usb hub > > that is built into your docking station, where the display link is > > connected to. > > > > If in doubt, please run

Re: [systemd-devel] Controlling user processes with systemd+cgroups

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 03.09.15 14:57, Benjamin Rose (benr...@math.princeton.edu) wrote: > As far as I can tell, systemd-logind when included through PAM, only makes a > cgroup like "user-" under the user slice. But I am looking to make this > based not only on user ID, but also group ID. Is there any way to ach

Re: [systemd-devel] journald does not support syslog?

2015-09-06 Thread dE
On 09/06/2015 07:05 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Sun, 06.09.15 18:20, dE (de.tec...@gmail.com) wrote: On 09/06/2015 06:00 PM, Michael Chapman wrote: On Sun, 6 Sep 2015, dE wrote: Hello all! As per the systemd-journald man page, It creates and maintains structured, indexed journa

Re: [systemd-devel] Multi seats setup How-to

2015-09-06 Thread arnaud gaboury
On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sun, 06.09.15 13:14, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Lennart Poettering >> wrote: >> > On Sun, 06.09.15 13:01, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: >> > >> >> On Sun, S

Re: [systemd-devel] Cannot start service due to 'systemd-tty-ask-password-agent --watch' not answering

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 03.09.15 04:39, Yeela Kaplan (ykap...@redhat.com) wrote: > Hi all, > We have run into a problem starting a service on EL7.1. > We installed the same environment on two hosts, on the first one the service > started successfully and on the second one it failed to start. > > On the machine

Re: [systemd-devel] Method to solve a "ordering cycle"

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 02.09.15 17:08, Daniel Spannbauer (d...@marco.de) wrote: > Hello, > > I often have a ordering cycle so a service is deleted at boot. > > Is there a standard way of getting rid of that cycles or to find the > cause of them? Well, when systemd finds one of these cyclic ordering dependenci

Re: [systemd-devel] Multi seats setup How-to

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 06.09.15 13:14, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > On Sun, 06.09.15 13:01, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Lennart Poettering > >> wrote: > >> > On T

Re: [systemd-devel] journald does not support syslog?

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 06.09.15 18:20, dE (de.tec...@gmail.com) wrote: > On 09/06/2015 06:00 PM, Michael Chapman wrote: > >On Sun, 6 Sep 2015, dE wrote: > >>Hello all! > >> > >>As per the systemd-journald man page, > >> > >>>It creates and maintains > >>> structured, indexed journals based on logging infor

Re: [systemd-devel] journald does not support syslog?

2015-09-06 Thread Michael Chapman
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015, dE wrote: Yes, I got that socket (/run/systemd/journal/dev-log). However /dev/log is not present (it's not made by default) It should be, the unit contains: [Socket] ... Symlinks=/dev/log ... - Michael ___ systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] journald does not support syslog?

2015-09-06 Thread dE
On 09/06/2015 06:00 PM, Michael Chapman wrote: On Sun, 6 Sep 2015, dE wrote: Hello all! As per the systemd-journald man page, It creates and maintains structured, indexed journals based on logging information that is received from a variety of sources: Simple system log messages, via

Re: [systemd-devel] journald does not support syslog?

2015-09-06 Thread Michael Chapman
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015, dE wrote: Hello all! As per the systemd-journald man page, It creates and maintains structured, indexed journals based on logging information that is received from a variety of sources: Simple system log messages, via the libc syslog(3) call Unfortunately I did n

[systemd-devel] journald does not support syslog?

2015-09-06 Thread dE
Hello all! As per the systemd-journald man page, It creates and maintains structured, indexed journals based on logging information that is received from a variety of sources: Simple system log messages, via the libc syslog(3) call Unfortunately I did not find any configuration param

Re: [systemd-devel] Multi seats setup How-to

2015-09-06 Thread arnaud gaboury
On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sun, 06.09.15 13:01, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Lennart Poettering >> wrote: >> > On Thu, 03.09.15 13:26, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: >> > >> >> I plan t

Re: [systemd-devel] Multi seats setup How-to

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 06.09.15 13:01, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > On Thu, 03.09.15 13:26, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > >> I plan to use the systemd mutli-seat features, but I am not sure at > >> al

Re: [systemd-devel] Multi seats setup How-to

2015-09-06 Thread arnaud gaboury
On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 03.09.15 13:26, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> I plan to use the systemd mutli-seat features, but I am not sure at >> all how I must proceed and in waht order. I understand the main >> principle for mouse a

Re: [systemd-devel] Multi seats setup How-to

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 03.09.15 13:26, arnaud gaboury (arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com) wrote: > I plan to use the systemd mutli-seat features, but I am not sure at > all how I must proceed and in waht order. I understand the main > principle for mouse and keyboard: detect the device then > $ loginctl attach seatNumber

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] udev: build by-path identifiers for ATA

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 04.09.15 10:59, David Milburn (dmilb...@redhat.com) wrote: Please file this issue as github PR: https://github.com/systemd/systemd > > +static struct udev_device *handle_scsi_ata(struct udev_device *parent, char > **path) > +{ Please reading CODING_STYLE. We tend to place the opening

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] hwdb: Add Thinkpad T550 / W550s to 70-pointingstick.hwdb

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 04.09.15 15:20, Hans de Goede (hdego...@redhat.com) wrote: > Like many other recent thinkpads the factory default pointingstick > sensitivity on these devices is quite low, making the pointingstick > very slow in moving the cursor. > > This extends the existing hwdb rules for tweaking the

[systemd-devel] Possible confusion with socket activation and daemon own configuration

2015-09-06 Thread Francis Moreau
Hello, Usually it's possible to specify the listen address a daemon/service will listen to. For example, sshd has the 'ListenAddress' option that can be used in its config file (sshd_config) which specifies the local addresses sshd(8) should listen on. The same parameter should be defined also in

Re: [systemd-devel] machinectl shell problems

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 05.09.15 13:48, Michał Zegan (webczat_...@poczta.onet.pl) wrote: > Hello. > > I have a kvm vps running archlinux with systemd-225, I have just upgraded > systemd and probably restarted most of the systemd components. > I am trying machinectl shell from my ordinary user session over ssh. i

Re: [systemd-devel] user sessions and remote logins

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 05.09.15 22:49, Chaiken, Alison (ali...@she-devel.com) wrote: > With systemd-225, when I login to a host from the console or any text > VT, 'loginctl list-sessions' and 'echo $XDG_SESSION_COOKIE' prints a > long hash. Each VT login creates a new session. > > When I ssh into the same host

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd user service needs to wait for encrypted $HOME to be decrypted

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 04.09.15 21:10, John (da_audioph...@yahoo.com) wrote: > Assuming a user has an encrypted $HOME, I need a user service that will: > > > 1) Wait for the $HOME to be decrypted, then run ExecStart, and > 2) Run ExecStop before the user closes the encryption again. > 3) Totally ignore the enc

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd 226: Neither machinectl login nor machinectl shell works

2015-09-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 05.09.15 16:20, Tobias Hunger (tobias.hun...@gmail.com) wrote: > Hello, > > I just upgraded to systemd 226 in the hope that machinectl shell will > work better for me than machinectl login. Unfortunately it is not and > machinectl login is also unusable:-/ > > Both produce the "Connected