Re: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread WMurphy25
At the Opening Ceremony in Athens, there was a young Greek woman who stood up and danced EVERY time a new flag-bearer would enter the stadium. When asked by the people behind her if she could cut back somewhat on her enthusiasm, she just glared and continued doing her thing. I'm all for

Re: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread Randall Northam
Have you been to an English football match? And experienced the sense of menace and aggro from people who insist that they should be able to do what they want at all times and not think about others? We have all-seater stadia in the top division now because 90 people were killed in a crush not so

RE: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread malmo
Typical ugly American, attempting to impose your ill-will on others and spoil the party. Life is not a dress rehearsal, Walt, be in it! malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 5:04 AM To:

RE: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread Raymond Cook
The point is that in Sacramento, the land of free (as long as you don't stand at track meets), she would have been ejected. Ray -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of malmo Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 5:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

RE: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread WMurphy25
Typical ugly American, attempting to impose your ill-will on others and spoil the party. Life is not a dress rehearsal, Walt, be in it! Malmo, Once again you have misread someone elses words . It wasn't me sitting behind the Greek woman and I never said it was. But I keep forgetting that

RE: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread malmo
I knew that -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 3:38 PM To: malmo; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials Typical ugly American,

Re: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread Rob Veer
lady's... lady's... this used to be a TF-list... and i used to find useful information here is this all the USA tf has to offer, nowadays? (hopefully not) Rob Veer The Netherlands - Original Message - From: malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

t-and-f: National Men's PV Bests

2004-08-15 Thread Roger Ruth
Heading into the Olympic competition, these are the best vaulters for the 48 countries represented in Mirko Jalava's 2004 outdoor world deep list (minimum of 5.00m for list inclusion). Incidentally, the 5-meter threshold is a tougher standard for men than the women's 3.60m. Only 48 of the 208

t-and-f: National Women's PV Bests

2004-08-15 Thread Roger Ruth
Heading into the Olympic competition, these are the best vaulters for the 52 countries represented in Mirko Jalava's 2004 outdoor world deep list (minimum of 3.60m for list inclusion). Argentina Alejandra Garcia4.43 Australia Kym Howe/Wendy Young4.40 Austria Carmen

Re: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread John Lunn
Hey Rob, I was happy just to see the ol' list getting some use. It will be interesting to see if they stand or sit in Athens. JL Rob Veer wrote: lady's... lady's... this used to be a TF-list... and i used to find useful information here is this all the USA tf has to offer, nowadays?

Re: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread Martin J. Dixon
What is the appropriate response protocol to a positive? John Lunn wrote: Hey Rob, I was happy just to see the ol' list getting some use. It will be interesting to see if they stand or sit in Athens. JL Rob Veer wrote:

RE: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread woods47
Almost everyone in sections 107, 108, 109 207, 208, 209, etc. stood and cheered if they could when Webb made his move and I saw no one being asked to sit down and be quiet, including yours truly! I don't know what section you were in, but we had a great time except for when those inconsiderate

RE: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread woods47
No, my parents taught me to be considerate of my fellow man! It is your parents who are wrong -Original Message- From: malmo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 2:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Raymond Cook'; 'Marko Velikonja'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:

RE: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread malmo
Being considerate means not imposing your personal fetishes on others. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 7:44 PM To: malmo; 'Raymond Cook'; 'Marko Velikonja'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at

RE: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread Raymond Cook
Gerald, Well, I guess you didn't see the security person telling me that I couldn't stand. I was in 109. Or hear him tell me that standing and cheering disturbed the competitors and that was why it was against the rules. And by the way, I hardly ever stood during the meet and never during an

Re: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread koala
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 19:52:07 -0400, you wrote: Being considerate means not imposing your personal fetishes on others. No, being considerate means putting other people's considerations ahead of your own. There's quite a difference. RT

Re: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread Steve
- Original Message - From: malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 9:15 PM Subject: RE: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials Sorry pal, you are me-generation jerk. You do not speak for anyone except for yourself.

Re: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread Steve
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 08:29:43 -0500, you wrote: It's a freakin sporting event! You're supposed to be excited about

Re: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials

2004-08-15 Thread Steve
- Original Message - From: Raymond Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 5:15 PM Subject: RE: t-and-f: Mistreatment of Fans at Olympic Trials Gerald, Well, I guess you didn't see the security person telling