Re: t-and-f: MARION SPEAKS Some interview

Yeah, let's get track back off the front page. Wouldn't want it there. TF News will be glad to have their monopoly back. gh made a point earlier about only getting excited about stuff that actually matters(I'm paraphrasing). Can anyone say Nike and labor practices? And I guess they are the moral

Re: t-and-f: Periodicals

New England Runner should be added to that list IMHO. Regards, Martin Winfried Kramer wrote: Dear Netters, I have compiled a list with major track and field periodicals. Any amendments and additions are appreciated. ATHLETICS (monthly), 1185 Eglington Avenue East, Suite 601, North York,

Re: t-and-f: Fwd: Yahoo Track and Field News

And further to P. F. Talbot's message, notice the little Chambers video snippet. There have been little pockets of Francis support in the media in the Aussie and Canuck colonies but I have seen none in the UK. Where is the outrage about Chamber's association with Flex? It makes me want to vomit.

Re: t-and-f: Track connections

There is a bunch of stuff on the letsrun home page. Here is an article about a race he had with Shorter. http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/news/020203/Local/ST001.shtml Regards, Martin Ed Grant wrote: Netters: I am not aware that anything has been posted on this: William

t-and-f: Lister weighs in

They are crazy, from Graham. Asked Monday if he still felt that way, Graham said, Yes they are, man. Who still talks like that? I don't know where that stuff is coming from, Graham said. To my knowledge, Tim never worked with Charlie. The jilted spouse is always the last to know.

t-and-f: Controversy Runs Jones Away

Some U.S. track officials are also disturbed that Jones and Montgomery would choose to work with a Canadian coach -- whether he has a good reputation or a bad one -- as the move seems to suggest there is a dearth of qualified coaches in the United States. Please. There are some US track officials

t-and-f: IAAF is cautious on Charlie Francis statement against doping

Fast Track, which promotes track and field events in Britain, is sending an official to meet with Wells this week to try to sign Jones and Montgomery to compete in the London Grand Prix on Aug. 8. The key word up there is try. That doesn't look like the actions of an organization holding out the

t-and-f: Charlie speaks some more

Kurt Bray wrote: ...That since this interview he has changed his mind and decided to coach clean? Why hasn't he publicly said so? I understand the circular argument people are making about his comments in the past and having to buy into them if you are coached by him but anyone who is

t-and-f: The campaign to rehabilitate Charlie

A bunch of cryptic offlist messages I've received over the last few weeks from some reasonably connected people just made sense. Something Jonas said about testing the waters crystallized it. Phil Hersh, James Christie and all other media type lurkers out there have missed the story IMHO. Say

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

Who sponsored Sotomayor? Here's an actual criminal that should have gone to jail. Let's get him back on the playing field though. Regards, Martin It's the hypocrisy of the IAAF that's so galling. This is an organization that makes a pretense of policing drugs. They're not hard to find. They seem

Re: t-and-f: Francis fesses up at last

statements regarding our relationship. Me again: You could have said this back in mid-December when the story broke, Charlie. Why so long to come clean? Ken Stone -- Regards, Martin Martin J. Dixon, B. Math. (Hons), C.A., Partner Millard, Rouse Rosebrugh LLP Chartered Accountants P.O. Box

Re: TF Re: t-and-f: More support for Francis...

J. Dixon, B. Math. (Hons), C.A., Partner Millard, Rouse Rosebrugh LLP Chartered Accountants P.O. Box 367 96 Nelson Street Brantford, Ontario N3T 5N3 Direct

Re: t-and-f: Diack taken to task

Kurt Bray wrote: Now you are telling me that it's only everybody else's athletes who are dirty and not Charlie's? No. I'm just saying his are because I haven't seen anything to indicate otherwise. The precious rule of law that always gets trotted out right? Are you saying MM are dirty?

Re: t-and-f: Diack taken to task

The same thing as the rest of the world is concluding about the US because of the suppressed US positives. Regards, Martin Kurt Bray wrote: If Charlie has a big history of dope, currently defends dope in interviews, and associates with avowed dopers like the fine citizens over at

Re: t-and-f: Diack taken to task

Quoting: And what is your evidence that..., I only ask that we do it based on evidence rather than rumor or cynical suspicion, ...until some evidence demonstrates otherwise... All excerpts from some very good earlier posts. But I guess it depends on the evidentiary standards in place and whose

Re: t-and-f: Diack taken to task

And of course those dirty Americans(not my term) are still plying their trade while the powers that be want to give the death sentence to Charlie when they haven't even done him the courtesy of charging (let alone sentencing) him with anything yet. Too bad he doesn't live in Illinois. Regards,

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

This bunch doesn't care about the law though gh. Why would they when bad, tasteless jokes would suffice instead? We are only talking about people's lives and livelihood here. Here is a little more on the meet situation from Phil Hersh. http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/5069699.htm

t-and-f: Hawaii confirmation

...and Carmyn James, coach at the University of Hawaii, said they trained on the university's new, state-of-the-art track for about two weeks from the end of December to early January under the supervision of Hansen and Francis. James said they alternated training on the track and in the weight

t-and-f: Diack taken to task

I think Francis/Jones/Montgomery are going to win this PR fight. Good for them. Footnote: When Diack eventually meets with Jones he should also apologise for declaring he will talk to her like a father. Jones is grieving over the recent murder of her estranged natural father.

Re: t-and-f: Diack taken to task

I've received 21 messages in my inbox while I was working out so I'm sure someone has already pointed this out but he's coaching the top 2 sprinters in the world. He'd be surprised to be told that he's left the sport. Regards, Martin Kurt Bray wrote: He does tell it like he thinks that it is.

Re: t-and-f: Diack taken to task

I'm still waiting for the quotes that are so offensive. I'd also like Kurt or someone to word the press release that they think he should issue that would settle everyone down. And I mean that-I'd really be curious to see that. Regards, Martiin Kurt Bray wrote: You're right - he is back. What

Re: t-and-f: Diack taken to task

condolences, but he will still talk to MJ like a father. Martin J. Dixon wrote: I think Francis/Jones/Montgomery are going to win this PR fight. Good for them. Footnote: When Diack eventually meets with Jones he should also apologise for declaring he will talk to her like a father. Jones

t-and-f: Lister in the press

Why do we have to get this from a lister through the media:-). We have initiated discussions with the athletes and their representatives, USATF spokeswoman Jill Geer said Wednesday. The discussions are ongoing. Any time track and field is portrayed in a negative light, it's cause for concern.

t-and-f: More support for Francis...

...form an interesting source. Mr. Francis has paid a high penalty with respect to his past mistakes. He is a very talented coach, and in my opinion...it is appropriate to allow him once again to work with elite track and field athletes Find out who here:

Re: t-and-f: Diack taken to task

Ok I've got it: I'm not now nor have I ever been a member of the communist party. Oh wait, someone else tried to make people say that. Even if he did say that, no one would believe him anyway-as Randy is pointing out as I type this(thanks-you just made my point)so all you would be left with is

t-and-f: ...and so does Greene

/sports/5050849.htm Martin J. Dixon wrote: Asked what he could say to convince her of her error, Diack replied: “Leave that to her and me, not first to the press. I will try to talk to her like a father.” http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-4-557445,00.html http

Re: t-and-f: Brumel was a masters jumper, too

Brumel's passing got me wondering. Who has the highest non-fosbury jump and what's the height. I'm sure this has been posted here before but I can't seem to find it. Adam -- Regards, Martin Martin J. Dixon, B. Math. (Hons), C.A., Partner Millard, Rouse Rosebrugh LLP

Re: t-and-f: Brumel was a masters jumper, too

if it's possible. gh From: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:07:51 -0500 To: track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Brumel was a masters jumper, too He asked what the highest non-fosbury was. Did anyone

t-and-f: Some cooler Canadian heads

Cecil Smith, one of Canada's foremost voices on track and field, and three-time Olympic sprint coach John Cannon said they see nothing wrong with Francis coaching the American sprint stars. The International Amateur Athletic Federation(sic), the world governing body for track and field, says it

t-and-f: Jones/Monty Agent speaks(a bit)

No question, they will run in some Golden League meets, Wells said. I have been having great dialogue with them (Golden League meeting directors) about Marion and Tim competing in their meets. http://abc.net.au/news/sport/athletics/2003/01/item20030127115945_1.htm Regards, Martin

t-and-f: IAAF to go to Toronto?

Nick Davies, a spokesman for the International Amateur Athletic Federation, said competitions director Sandro Giovannelli will travel to Toronto to speak with the American stars face-to-face if needed, to urge the athletes to reconsider their choice of coach. Davies said the IAAF had been

t-and-f: Jones ad nauseum

The couple were reportedly spotted training in Hawaii over Christmas but are now back in Toronto. They're here and they're working out five days a week with Charlie, a source close to the Francis camp confirmed. This question is more directed at the TC people. Anyone seen them?

t-and-f: Hansen

TORONTO and CALGARY -- Derek Hansen, the stretching guru who was supposed to coach U.S. super sprinters Tim Montgomery and Marion Jones at Toronto's York University, has been dumped by his Vancouver business partner. First of all, who cares and, secondly, I don't know what that means exactly

t-and-f: Hansen

TORONTO and CALGARY -- Derek Hansen, the stretching guru who was supposed to coach U.S. super sprinters Tim Montgomery and Marion Jones at Toronto's York University, has been dumped by his Vancouver business partner. First of all, who cares and, secondly, I don't know what that means exactly

Re: t-and-f: Re: Mo weighs in

of the world's fastest humans for offenses that the general sporting public an't fathom is no way to sell tickets. gh From: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 07:51:55 -0500 To: Track Field List [EMAIL PROTECTED

t-and-f: More Jones et al

Stuff is all over the place this morning of course since the reporter types can read the Times online just like anyone else. Not much original reporting but here are a couple of interesting things from the Toronto Sun. People in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones, said Cecil Smith, a

t-and-f: Jones and Montgomery cancel Aus trip

Top sprinters Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery have pulled out of a planned trip to Australia next month as fallout continues over their decision to train with a drug-tainted Canadian coach. Now of course the one may have nothing to do with the other.

t-and-f: Mo weighs in

This is much better than the National Enquirer nature of the story. Now we are back to where we usually are with these guys-WWF trash talk stuff. I'm sure this will make the people happy who didn't like the previous level of discourse. Someone coaches you to a world record and you leave him,

t-and-f: Re: Mo weighs in

’s elite stage, are considering blackballing them. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,4-551865,00.html Martin J. Dixon wrote: This is much better than the National Enquirer nature of the story. Now we are back to where we usually are with these guys-WWF trash talk stuff. I'm sure

t-and-f: Drug study

Of the 400 former Serie A and Serie B players who died between 1960 and 1996, Guariniello is treating 70 of the deaths as manslaughter.

Re: t-and-f: Workout Revolution: Is Eight Minutes of Weights all You Need?

No offense to the vertically challenged types but you have to wonder if the guy promoting the 8 minutes a week workout program has shares in the company that sells this product: http://amplestuff.safeshopper.com/53/cat53.htm?545 Regards, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All you people

t-and-f: Amherst track athlete struck and killed

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20030115/2045942.asp http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20030116/1016958.asp http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20030117/1003127.asp Regards, Martin

t-and-f: January TF News...

...just arrived. I am constantly battling our local post office and I am curious as to whether or not anyone else in the world hasn't got theirs yet or, even better, if someone in some extremely remote locale has. Regards, Martin

Re: t-and-f: The Ton Dudes

18. A lot of people would argue that darts isn't a sport. How do you respond? JP It's definitely a sport, because it is a competition, and there is a lot of pressure, and skill, involved. Fitness helps too, though it is not as mandatory as running the 100 metres. 15. NBA millionaires drive

Re: t-and-f: January TF News...

a couple track and field fans down at your local post office. Martin J. Dixon wrote: ...just arrived. I am constantly battling our local post office and I am curious as to whether or not anyone else in the world hasn't got theirs yet or, even better, if someone in some extremely remote

Re: t-and-f: Dogs kill runner

Good Lovin', Groovin', People Got to Be Free, Beautiful Morning, etc-all classics. With malmo on the dogs. Not their fault. The owner is another story. ghill wrote: To clarify: Spanky Our Gang--with Spanky McFarland--sang such hits as Sunday Will Never Be The Same, whereas The (Young)

Re: t-and-f: Jones and Charlie sighting

One shot is ok but not 2. gh was kdding(I think) but Elitenet, on the other hand, is not. As far as TFN is concerned(I didn't start this), perhaps gh is just warning me that I better not fall for the same thing they did. To wit, quoting from letsrun: The magazine is nicknamed the Bible of the

Re: t-and-f: Turkish delight as Ayhan outpolls Radcliffe

The AP AOY poll is certainly no better, except for number 1 of course. Uri Goldbourt wrote: And isn't it almost equally ridiculous that Sergey Makarov, easily the best Javelin thrower in the World, who beat Backley in all their encounters but one, is not only behind Backley, but out of the

t-and-f: Interesting stat

Typical...They should pay up or not be allowed to go. That's how we operate in the real world. I await the America first, my country right or wrong response. Canada has paid $5 million to keep the World Anti-Doping Agency in business, but the wealthy United States still owes $1.6 million for 2002

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

was because he'd just lost three stone (42lbs) and some must have gone from his throwing arm. But Taylor reckons he has another three stone to go and said: health is more important than darts. So there is hope. Randall Northam On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 18:30 Europe/London, Martin J. Dixon wrote

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

of the bullseye; 4. There are far fewer great athletes throwing darts. At 6:12 AM -0500 08.01.2003, Martin J. Dixon wrote: You make my point about Lance vs Bonds. What is it about hitting a fastball that makes it a more redeeming athletic endeavour than hitting a bullseye? And I'm not putting down

Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold

We in the boonies get it even later. Sled dog delivery takes time. You guys will be talking about the next issue by the time I get mine. Regards, Martin Geoff Pietsch wrote: Am I alone in hoping that a regular centerfold, like the one of Jorge Torres in this month's issue (I get it late -

t-and-f: Gene-doping

Both sport and the medical establishment promise a brave new world if they could only get their hands on our genes. And so we have come up with gene-doping. There is no turning back, says Dr. Schierling. It's not like drugs -- where if there is a reaction, the dosage is stopped. The gene is there

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

Now here is a guy with a skill and we got him. Two nights ago, Part beat Phil Taylor, who had won the world championship title for eight years in a row. http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/PEstory/TGAM/20030107/SDARTX/sports/sports/sports_temp/2/2/18/ ghill wrote: Conversely,

Re: t-and-f: AOY - French version

In making what is probably the biggest mistake in sports business history, the French Codifis team dropped him like a rock when they found out about his illness-no insurance as a result. It's a wonder he is as polite to the country as he is. I know which finger I would be waving at them if I were

t-and-f: Multi event

Pretty sure that the event they used to run in Michigan? didn't have this many miles. www.ENDURrun.com Regards, Martin

Re: t-and-f: AOY - French version

But he has. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe one reason why the French don't particularly like Lance is that he has not made much of an effort to learn French (they still think it's the internatioinal language!), while Lemond was based there and spoke it fluently. sideshow

t-and-f: The French Team and Lance

Here is the gist of what happened. After he signed his contract with Codifis, the Codifis guy came over to the US when he got sick and was undergoing chemo. Lance thought that he wanted to get a look at him and how sick he really was. Once he saw him, he said to Carmichael that the French

Re: t-and-f: AOY - French version

I'm surprised Lance is that high. Makes the case. They don't like him there-because he is so good. Regards, Martin(admitted Lancophile) Robert Hersh wrote: As an interesting postscript to our recent AOY thread, I thought I'd pass along the results of the 2002 Champion of Champions poll of the

t-and-f: A Brit weighs in

For all her success during the past year, however, Radcliffe cannot even begin to match the American's achievements, the most notable of which is winning a record five Olympic medals at the 2000 Sydney games, including three gold. Jones is a charismatic, articulate superstar whose name and face

Re: t-and-f: yelling at runners (was: favortie sport...)

I've been playing in traffic now for nigh on 60,000 or so miles in the last 20 years. One of my one finger salutes a few years ago got the guy I was running with that day charged with some highway traffic offence. He had the misfortune of running in the outside lane. We had to assume the

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

His team isn't as much use to him in the mountains either. Put the top guys on each team in the same position and he would come out ahead. As I've said before, read the book and all the SI stuff you can on him and watch the tour and you would learn it isn't just yankee hype. He has traded places

Re: t-and-f: yelling at runners (was: favortie sport...)

Have almost got in some fights because of the verbal and even physical abuse of the smokers who gather out in front of the 3 high schools in polite Brantford, Ontario, Canada that I run by periodically. How I react will usually depend on how hard I am working. It definitely isn't a regional thing.

Re: t-and-f: yelling at runners

Only some of them-a small %! They have guns here. Michael J. Roth wrote: 1. I was in Ellicottville this past summer and can vouch for the relative inbred-ness of the locals there. 2. If you runners think you have it bad, try race walking, where even the other tf-types (the inbred

Re: t-and-f: Ernst Van Aaken and longevity

It also allows you to function at a higher level in your other activities throughout your entire life-play and work. Regards, Martin Jason Michael Blank wrote: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was listening to Dr. Dean Edell on the radio. He's a nationally syndicated talk guy who gives

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

Bloomquist, Bret wrote: They asked if the Game 6 loss would haunt him during the off-season. Why would it haunt me? he grumbled. What does that have to do with me? This is simply unacceptable from an athlete in a team sport. You're measured by championships and he didn't win one.

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

Just because there is all kinds of nonsense below the top doesn't mean that they can't get lucky and get the number one right. The pick of almost every list that I have seen. Only my personal opinion, but after coming back from what he came back from and doing what he did, these awards are beneath

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

Sorry to continue to stray off track here. The adversity was just icing. He deserved to win it anyway. He did do a little something extra after winning it twice, he won it a third time AND a fourth. Armstrong's thoughts on the matter are not relevant. He is not a normal human being. Ask the great

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

that it was a fourth win is as irrelevant as John Wayne winning the lifetime body of work considerations Oscar for Rooster Cogburn. (And Ed was right on with the overcoming adversity angle also.) gh From: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 27 Dec

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

for a Tour de France type. Conversely, Lance Armstrong could spend his next 302 incarnations and be unable to hit a major league fastball out of the infield. gh From: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 19:28:56 -0500

t-and-f: More from TO

I know next year, you're going to see Maurice at his best. I can just feel it. I'm eager to see it; and I'm eager to be in the race. So eager, it seems, that he and his speedy other half have been soaking up the advice of Johnson's disgraced former coach in Toronto, Charlie Francis. He can beat

t-and-f: Graduate Assistantship available

Muskingum College invites applications for a ten month position, with one year renewable contract for graduate assistant coach in Track. Includes tuition remission, monthly stipend, room, and board. Requires Bachelors Degree and candidate must qualify for admission into the Graduate Program.

t-and-f: Fwd: Graduate Assistantship available

don't know how Martin's name got on the last post, but it was unintended! Sorry Martin! kw     Muskingum College invites applications for a ten month position, with one year renewable contract for graduate assistant coach in Track. Includes tuition remission, monthly stipend, room, and board.

t-and-f: Call to axe Jones, Montgomery tour

ATHLETICS Australia should drop plans to bring world-beating sprinters Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery to Melbourne this summer because of their association with drug-tainted coach Charlie Francis, according to Nic Bideau. Shoes are staring to drop. Isn't Australia the land that was basically

t-and-f: The Times weighs in

Another reporter too lazy to write his own copy. Can't anyone out there write anything original? Here is one of Simmons' articles he has quoted(from 2000): Steve Simmons, a columnist from the Toronto Sun, wrote, In what should have been the week of her life, the great Marion Jones has been found

Re: t-and-f: Deena doubts move by MJ

Instead they're taking the secrecy route, no photos allowed, nobody's even supposed to know they're in York, etc. RT They may be taking the secrecy route but no one cares. York is a public facility that thousands of people use every day. Anyone can take a snap. I got an offlist post that

t-and-f: Target test?

We don't want to blackball a guy [Francis] for what happened years ago. But on the other hand, we cannot ignore it for fear of repeating it, said Dr. Larry Bowers, senior managing director of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency. He would not say whether a target test was being considered. But we

t-and-f: Re: TF Target test?

the net with remarkable ease. http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/PEstory/TGAM/20021221/SBRUN/sports/sports/sportsOtherHeadline_temp/2/2/10/ Martin J. Dixon wrote: We don't want to blackball a guy [Francis] for what happened years ago. But on the other hand, we

Re: t-and-f: Deena doubts move by MJ

The rumour is since some time in 2001 actually. Regards, Martin Dan Kaplan wrote: Also, rumor has it that Francis has been involved with Montgomery's coaching for some time now, so this may well be a natural progression of the situation. Tim has a major breakthrough the past two seasons,

t-and-f: Jones media watch

Too bad because a young Canadian trainer working with two of the fastest people in the planet should make for a great story, something to shout about. Right now, all we're hearing is whispers. How true. More at:

t-and-f: Charlie at al in the National Post

Hendershott said that while working with Francis may raise questions, it is Montgomery and Jones who have to decide who plays what role in their careers. The ultimate test is going to be with their performance, he said.

Re: t-and-f: Deena doubts move by MJ

Hopefully, they're working with him merely because he's a good technician. Of course that is why they are working with him. There is no coaching mystery here. Charlie is coaching the two of them and using Derek because he knew this was exactly the reaction he would get. Good for Charlie and good

Re: t-and-f: Marion Tim

They probably figured that no one would notice them up here. After all, in 2 days we are about to go into winter solstice and we won't even see the sun until March. Any listers who were up here for the 93 indoor worlds wouldn't have been disavowed of the perpetual winter perception. The two of

t-and-f: Sully Nate's Excellent Adventure

Scroll down to the bottom of the link if all you are interested in are the results of a mile in Hawaii on December 5th(including the DFL award). Paul Christman's usual excellent writing and a lot of name dropping are above the results. http://www.runningstats.com/Pages/777/Players.html Regards,

t-and-f: Francis and Jones ad nauseum

This is reasonably funny: PR: I'm not saying that. And I don't think people think that. You don't even speak Canadian. I'm just worried about the possible bad publicity of all this. Jones: How bad could it be? PR: Actually, this is about as bad as it gets. But that's still bad. More here:

t-and-f: Marion, Derek, Tim and Charlie pic

I seem to be the only one interested in this but here is a photo moved by Reuters. I suspect it will be all over the place tomorrow. http://wwwi.reuters.com/images/2002-12-19T005803Z_01_GALAXY-DC-MDF171281_RTRIDSP_2_SPORTS-ATHLETICS-JONES-DC.jpg Regards, Martin

t-and-f: Re: TF Marion, Derek, Tim and Charlie pic

Actually, they have apparently been at York quite a bit over the last few days and seen by a number of people but no one really does seem to care. We're just too polite up here. Someone offered 100.00 on a site up here for a photo which actually reminds me of the old SNL Beatles reunion joke.

t-and-f: A little more on Marion's coach

If the magnitude of Larsen's improvement is the true measure of Hansen's potential impact, then the mysterious Canadian coach could be exactly what Jones needs. Here: http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/story.html?id={AADF7243-1A98-474F-9766-19CF698CD1AB} Go here and do a search on Hansen and

Re: t-and-f: A little more on Marion's coach

doesn't seem to go with the link. Regards, Martin Martin J. Dixon wrote: If the magnitude of Larsen's improvement is the true measure of Hansen's potential impact, then the mysterious Canadian coach could be exactly what Jones needs. Here: http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/story.html?id

t-and-f: More Charlie, Marion et al

As first reported in The Toronto Sun yesterday,... Not quite accurate. While Hansen has an extensive expertise in analysing the biomechanics of sprinting and long jump, the Sun has learned that he is, in fact, working with the pair in co-operation with Francis... Learned from whom?

Re: t-and-f: Francis, Jones and Montgomery

-0088.html Martin J. Dixon wrote: Someone just posted a rumour to the Can list that Charlie is supposed to be behind the scenes of Tim and Marion. They were all supposed to have been seen at York's fine indoor track in Toronto today. Is this possible? Regards, Martin

t-and-f: Marion names Can as coach

Further to my message of this morning-sort of: http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/sports/4733920.htm Actually courtesy of Jonas but I think you guys have scared him off. Regards, Martin

Re: t-and-f: re: virus

The headers will frequently tell you. A message with my name on it just went to a lister. Regards, martin Benji Durden wrote: My Norton's Antivirus has been intercepting the W32.Klez.H@mm worm for me coming from email addresses with the domains nyrrc.org and alamosa.k12.co.us. These

t-and-f: Francis, Jones and Montgomery

Someone just posted a rumour to the Can list that Charlie is supposed to be behind the scenes of Tim and Marion. They were all supposed to have been seen at York's fine indoor track in Toronto today. Is this possible? Regards, Martin

t-and-f: Re: Coogan's Last Marathon

Ask him again in 2 weeks. Retiring after a race like that(or frequently after any marathon) is what most people do or to quote your following message: You have to forget your last marathon before you try another. Your mind can't know what's coming. -Frank Shorter Regards, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Munich weather

She probably turned a few heads here too. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/special_events/sports_personality_2002/2554969.stm Regards, Martin ghill wrote: From: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 19:16:17 -0400 To: track

Re: t-and-f: Frank Shorter disses George Frenn

that ... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Regards, Martin Martin J. Dixon, B. Math. (Hons), C.A., Partner Millard, Rouse Rosebrugh LLP Chartered Accountants P.O. Box 367

t-and-f: Re: TF Best Female Collegian?(XC)

Mondor/Pells video: http://www2.sportsnet.ca/ram/features/features_mondor1120.asx Regards, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walt Murphy’s News and Results Service X-Country X-Press (c) Copyright 2002-all rights reserved. May not be reprinted or retransmitted without permission. Who's #1?

Re: t-and-f: Sotomayor

Take it away. That is what they did to Ben. There should be no discussion. Regards, Martin Winfried Kramer wrote: According to German newspaper reports, Javier Sotomayor has now admitted that he took drugs during his career ... What about his Sydney silver medal? -- Winfried Kramer

Re: TF Re: t-and-f: Sotomayor

These too. It will have to be a bit of a rewrite. http://www2.iaaf.org/Results/lists/alltime/outdoor/G/m/HJ.html Regards, Martin Martin J. Dixon wrote: Take it away. That is what they did to Ben. There should be no discussion. Regards, Martin Winfried Kramer wrote: According to German

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