RE: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner

2002-08-28 Thread malmo
To: Randy Treadway; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner I have a similar story from the early 60s at Ohio Wesleyan. We were coming in from an easy road run down a slight grade into town running on the road near the curb. We were cruising

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner

2002-08-28 Thread Martin J. Dixon
I wonder if this punk is proud of his vandalism. Regards, Martin Hamilton, preparing for the GP Eddy Merckx, suffered a broken right collarbone and facial injuries Sunday when a car driver opened his door just as the rider was passing.

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner

2002-08-28 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
Tyler Hamilton, preparing for the GP Eddy Merckx, suffered a broken right collarbone and facial injuries Sunday when a car driver opened his door just as the rider was passing. http://waymoresports.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=waymorespo

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner

2002-08-28 Thread malmo
I suppose there is some sort of point you are trying to articulate? That cyclists are maniacs on the road, reckless reprobates oblivious to their surroundings? Everyone knows that! I wonder if this punk is proud of his vandalism. Regards, Martin Hamilton, preparing for the GP Eddy Merckx,

RE: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner

2002-08-28 Thread Keith Whitman
To: Randy Treadway; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner I have a similar story from the early 60s at Ohio Wesleyan. We were coming in from an easy road run down a slight grade into town running on the road near the curb. We were cruising

Re: t-and-f: Why on the Street

2002-08-27 Thread JTFlash
In a message dated 8/26/02 10:37:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone else on this list been yelled at by someone pulling out of a driveway, that THEY ( the runner) were in the way, because Cars have the right of way over pedestrians on sidewalks? I will pretty much continue to run in

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street?

2002-08-27 Thread JimRTimes
In Boston I would barely DRIVE in the streets, much less run there. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street?

2002-08-27 Thread Kurt Bray
I see it so many times that I really wonder if they are being told to do so by some running book or magazine. Has anyone seen anything published anywhere telling people to run in the street? Is there any logical reason? Like running up and down curbs is dangerous or unhealthy for some reason?

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street?

2002-08-27 Thread ghill
: nad wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: nad wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:16:59 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? sounds like something slinger sanchez did. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and a few miles later

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street?

2002-08-27 Thread Tom Derderian
:01 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? there's also a story, probably apocryphal, of Shorter and Bacheler running in spikes on a golf course and some guy pulled a car in front of them (not sure how the car was on the course, hence the apoc. nature), and supposedly they ran right over

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street?

2002-08-27 Thread Benji Durden
there's also a story, probably apocryphal, of Shorter and Bacheler running in spikes on a golf course and some guy pulled a car in front of them (not sure how the car was on the course, hence the apoc. nature), and supposedly they ran right over the hood and left a score of spike holes. The

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner

2002-08-27 Thread Geoff Pietsch
From: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 09:01:46 -0700 there's also a story, probably apocryphal, of Shorter and Bacheler running in spikes on a golf course and some guy pulled

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? - another factor

2002-08-27 Thread Geoff Pietsch
Lots of interesting responses to this query. I, too ran on the roads, rather than the sidewalk, whenever practicable - and, yes, facing traffic. Softer, much easier to keep a rhythm, fewer intrusions of people, bikes, etc - all the rasons others have cited. But let me URGE those of you

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street?

2002-08-27 Thread ghill
From: Benji Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Benji Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:37:21 -0600 To: tf list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? The way I heard this from guys in the group when it happened was that they were on the streets

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner

2002-08-27 Thread Randy Treadway
, just running shoes - and red necks. That really happened, to the best of my recollection, and all the other versions have followed from it. Geoff From: ghill Reply-To: ghill To: track list Subject: Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 09:01:46 -0700 there's also

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street?

2002-08-27 Thread Robert J Howell
After reading Once a Runner, I asked Jack about this story. In the novel, Cassidy runs over the length of the car. According to Jack, he would just run over the hoods of cars that would pull out in front of him. He compared it to taking the water jump. This makes the story less fantastic, but

RE: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner

2002-08-27 Thread James R. Kaminsky
feeling. Moral of story - look both ways before you pull out. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Randy Treadway Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 10:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? - car tromping: Once a Runner

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street?

2002-08-26 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
Well, here in California, people pretty much run on the sidewalk if there is one. Maybe the people running on the street when a sidewalk is available are the same jokers who drink so much that they get hypernutremia or who attempt a marathon on 20 miles per week (wait, I did that once!) - Ed

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street?

2002-08-26 Thread John Liccardo
Assuming the street is asphalt, that suface is softer than concrete and thus is less likely to cause overuse injuries like sress fractures. I also personally find curb jumping and uneven sidewalks awkward and disruptive to my rhythm. Perhaps it's all in my mind but I prefer the street.

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street?

2002-08-26 Thread koala
Obviously there is a serious safety issue in many streets and roads, but one theory that I've heard every now and then is that most roads are paved with asphalt, while most sidewalks are concrete. And concrete is said to be a whole lot harder on the muscles and the joints than asphalt (asphalt

RE: t-and-f: Why on the street?

2002-08-26 Thread Ray Cook
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed and Dana Parrot Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:59 PM To: Athletics Subject: Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? Well, here in California, people pretty much run on the sidewalk if there is one. Maybe the people running on the street when

RE: t-and-f: Why on the street?

2002-08-26 Thread Ray Cook
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed and Dana Parrot Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:59 PM To: Athletics Subject: Re: t-and-f: Why on the street? Well, here in California, people pretty much run on the sidewalk if there is one. Maybe the people running on the street when a sidewalk is available