On 2019-10-08 21:51, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> On 8. Oct 2019, at 15:40, Colin Smale via Tagging
> wrote:
>
>> In that case it makes perfect sense to consolidate onto one or the other.
>> But if there are any perceived semantic differences, however subtle, then
>&
On 2019-10-08 13:25, Valor Naram wrote:
> A short summary of what we have so far:
> - Deprecation of `contact:phone` has some advantages: Key `phone` is used far
> more often, Key `phone` is shorter to write and better to find in word
> completion functions of editors like iD, Data users don't
On 2019-10-01 08:18, Florian Lohoff wrote:
> Hi Jorge,
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 08:15:37PM -0600, Jorge Aguirre wrote:
>
>> Throughouthe entire Latin American region and some other parts of
>> the world, it is quite common to find the kilometer (Km.) information,
>> as may be found on the
On 2019-09-25 21:19, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> before number portability was introduced, a landline was more connected to a
> place than to a person/business, while mobile phones always have been
> personal. Big companies may be different, but places with small businesses
> often keep the
On 2019-09-25 20:51, Paul Allen wrote:
> What Colin suggested was that PERHAPS we need to deal with the situation
> where the
> phone has one number when dialled from within the same country but a
> different number
> when dialled internationally. What he failed to notice is that the wiki
>
On 2019-09-25 18:02, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 17:00, Valor Naram wrote:
>
>> We should not talk any longer about charging plans (which provider and when
>> will apply different charges to whom) because we're difting off --> going
>> Off-Topic.
>
> It is very much on topic
On 2019-09-25 16:08, Paul Allen wrote:
> In the UK, people can tell that from the area code.
What about the cases where calls to customers on the same provider are
free? In general you have no way of knowing who is on which provider.
And thanks to number portability it is getting shuffled at a
On 2019-09-24 13:15, Valor Naram via Tagging wrote:
> So the distinction of mobile and landline is a problem. Is there any
> possibility to distinct between landline and mobile also in Italy?
I don't understand why it would be necessary to make that distinction.
What I want to know, is which
On 2019-09-11 09:05, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 20:24, Andy Townsend wrote:
>
>> That seems like a bad idea because aerodrome:type is one of the ways
>> that mappers distinguish between military and non-military airfields.
>
> We have at least 3 aerodromes that I know
t;
> This would probably be aerodrome=private, since it's not open to
> anyone else other than the ranch / station owners and their invited
> guests, I imagine? Adding access=private would be recommended.
>
> - Joseph
>
> On 9/10/19, Colin Smale wrote: Point of order, also
>
Point of order, also with half an eye on the "tagging governance"
discussion Are we going to discuss this on the mailing list, or in
the wiki discussion page, or both, or what? I suggest focussing on a
single platform, and placing a notification on the other platform
directing readers to the
On 2019-09-07 19:04, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 17:37, Colin Smale wrote:
>
> On 2019-09-07 18:17, Paul Allen wrote:
>
> Some
> large towns have taken to calling themselves cities even though they do not
> have a royal
> charter awarding them th
On 2019-09-07 18:17, Paul Allen wrote:
> Some
> large towns have taken to calling themselves cities even though they do not
> have a royal
> charter awarding them that status.
Got any examples of this?___
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On 2019-09-07 17:19, Robert Riemann wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I crosspost this topic from [OSM-talk-be] for its relevance in other areas of
> the card. I suggest in this mail to agree on a tag or create a new tag.
>
> I would like to generate a map of EU buildings in Brussels similar to this
>
On 2019-08-26 15:53, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> sent from a phone
>
> On 25. Aug 2019, at 18:06, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>
> there are at least two possibilities:
> phone=
> phone:emergency=
> phone:staff=
>
> and:
> phone=
> emergency:phone=
> staff:phone=
>
> Neither of which requires
Your model (using only phone=*) only allows an object to have a single
phone number. How do you propose modelling multiple phone numbers on a
single object? For example, one for general enquiries, one for
emergencies, one for staff,...
Note I am not talking about tagging here, but trying to
On 2019-08-04 11:57, Florian Lohoff wrote:
> This is why i get to the point "is it a public road" and "a public
> road cant be service". If we agree on this you can as some zoom scale
> drop service and track.
What definition of "public" and "private" are you using here? This is
another can of
On 2019-07-06 12:53, Tobias Zwick wrote:
> So "unladen" is the word used in UK legislation? Do you have a link?
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/24/made
> Even if "unladen" is most commonly used in UK, I still find "empty" better
> because it is easier to understand
What problem are you trying to fix here? Usually it is pretty obvious if
a street has artificial lighting or not. Instead of creating artificial
boundaries quantising shades of grey into black and white, why not make
it more objective and record the light level in lux on the centre line
of the
On 2019-07-06 10:48, Warin wrote:
> On 06/07/19 18:16, Colin Smale wrote:
>
> On 2019-07-06 05:03, Warin wrote:
> On 05/07/19 19:33, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> 3 Jul 2019, 12:52 by o...@westnordost.de:
> 1.1 At the examples: for max empty weight, I propose the
On 2019-07-06 05:03, Warin wrote:
> On 05/07/19 19:33, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> 3 Jul 2019, 12:52 by o...@westnordost.de:
> 1.1 At the examples: for max empty weight, I propose the key maxemptyweight.
> It suggests itself.
> Added, with link back to this post
Here that would be called
On 2019-06-25 11:33, John Sturdy wrote:
> For the "socket" key: I suggest putting the current rating onto the cee_blue
> sockets (cee_blue_16a, cee_blue_32a, etc) rather than limiting it to one
> rating; this will also make it consistent with the cee_red_* sockets.
Not to forget that the
On 2019-06-22 10:20, Michael Brandtner via Tagging wrote:
> I've found this Wikipedia page:
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorepower
>
> There is no shore power tag in OSM yet. But now I'm uncertain if we should
> also make a difference between shore power and power supply for other
On 2019-06-22 10:38, bkil wrote:
> If we step back a bit from our dictionaries, fee=* as a concept is
> isomorphic to toll=* (and fare) in this context.
Only insofar as they indicate that the user has to pay. "Toll" has a
distinct meaning, in the UK at least, that it is (and needs to be)
On 2019-06-21 21:15, François Lacombe wrote:
> Le ven. 21 juin 2019 à 20:44, Colin Smale a écrit :
>
>> There is also this tagging scheme for the same thing:
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:socket
>> Now how did that happen???
> I
On 2019-06-21 19:57, Colin Smale wrote:
> On 2019-06-21 18:33, Paul Allen wrote:
>
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 17:06, Colin Smale wrote:
>
> When it comes to tagging the socket type, please use an existing standard
> such as the IEC type letters. Make sure to use the c
On 2019-06-21 18:33, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 17:06, Colin Smale wrote:
>
>> When it comes to tagging the socket type, please use an existing standard
>> such as the IEC type letters. Make sure to use the code for the socket, not
>> for the plug
On 2019-06-21 18:14, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Am Fr., 21. Juni 2019 um 18:06 Uhr schrieb Colin Smale
> :
>
>> When it comes to tagging the socket type, please use an existing standard
>> such as the IEC type letters. Make sure to use the code for the socket, not
On 2019-06-21 14:18, Michael Brandtner via Tagging wrote:
> I'm thinking about (and in fact, have already used about two times) a new
> tag: _amenity=power_supply_. It is meant for mapping places where you can get
> electrical power for a fee. They can be found at camping grounds and
>
On 2019-06-20 10:27, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> 'I would think that the bed count would be a reasonable guide for the
> staffing levels.'
Would that include the beds in wards or departments that are temporarily
closed due to shortages of staff or funding? Thinking of the UK
On 2019-06-19 13:49, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> I asked my wife (native American English speaker) how she would
> describe a ferry that wasn't free. She thought of paying a fare first,
> for foot ferries, but when pressed suggested that "Toll ferry" was
> better than something with "fee"
>
>
On 2019-06-08 18:08, François Lacombe wrote:
> Specifically on the topic, a converter hall will never have only one feature
> inside : you'll find the converter, but cooling and auxiliary power stuff
> also, and all that world should get individual features
>
>> By the way, your last example:
Is the Jewish calendar in active use? I recall it has an extra month every few
years, and rules about months not starting on a Monday or something like that.
Might be a nightmare for opening_hours. ___
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Tagging@openstreetmap.org
Navigation software needs to move on. Instead of mapping a destination
POI to a single point in every case, it needs to handle a list of
points. Each point may have filters or qualifiers, such as opening hours
or mode of transport; this can lead to some of the points being
disqualified. The
On 2019-05-20 17:49, Jan S wrote:
> Am 20. Mai 2019 16:30:30 MESZ schrieb Joseph Eisenberg
> :
>
>> It seem to me that the presence of public passenger flights is the
>> basic idea of the word "airport" to the general public (pilots certain
>> have different ideas, but they have their own
Let's separate the tagging from the rendering, like we are supposed to
do.
Firstly, the tagging: how do we model an aerodrome.
There are so many ways of classifying aerodromes. From a pilot's
perspective, there are at least the physical aspects (how long/wide is
the runway?), the aviation
On 2019-04-30 12:14, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> yes, having houses "outside" of the settlement is probably common everywhere,
> and they might feel part of the community (next hamlet / village / town), but
> it doesn't mean the house is part of the hamlet.
> For cemeteries it is common to be
On 2019-04-28 20:25, Kevin Kenny wrote:
> Precisely the same quest for topologic perfection is responsible for the rule
> that fixes the mouth of a river at its tidal limit - which gives rise to the
> absurd result that the mouth of the Hudson River is at
>
Boys, this will vary by legal jurisdiction. These comments are valueless unless
placed in context.
Here in NL and as far as I know also in the UK, blue lights and sirens in your
mirror are also no excuse for your own driving by the way, so you must not
break any rules or otherwise drive
OSM is the underlying data, not any particular rendering thereof. The general
public are therefore not our target audience; that is composed of data
consumers, including renderers of course.
AIUI the above represents how we react to complaints about the "standard
rendering" on the website. Why
On 2019-02-20 14:23, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 12:59, Sergio Manzi wrote:
>
>> Perfect!
>>
>> NIH syndrome [1] anybody?
>>
>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here
>
> More like "Somebody has already invented the hammer so there's no need for
> that new
>
On 2019-02-20 12:10, marc marc wrote:
> Le 20.02.19 à 11:40, Colin Smale a écrit :
>
>> so allergic to the idea of leveraging (how I hate that word...) existing
>> standards
>
> I wonder if it will soon be necessary to do an IQ test to contribute
> to osm.
> if a
+10e99
To be honest I have never really understood why OSM seems so allergic to
the idea of leveraging (how I hate that word...) existing standards. I
can only guess that anything that smells of formal ontologies is thought
to limit or restrict the creative freedom of mappers to invent new
On 2019-02-19 11:11, Tony Shield wrote:
> Depth of water in tidal areas can vary enormously. People using depth for
> navigation and general use would expect to use depth at MLWS (Mean Low Water
> Springs) and add increments based on tide tables, I suggest that OSM does the
> same. Use the
On 2019-02-19 04:03, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Not opposition, but for tidal areas, isn't this going to have the same
> problems of whether you mark the "coastline" at the high- or low-tide line?
Coastline is MHW, that is settled isn't it?
Water heights are more problematic though, because
On 2019-02-17 20:17, Paul Allen wrote:
> In the UK returned drugs cannot be recycled even if they have not expired.
> There are safety
> issues to do with tampering.
And the fact that you don't know how/where they have been stored.___
Tagging
On 2019-02-14 08:35, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> I'm surprised to hear this about ATMs in Europe.
>
> In Southeast Asia and in the USA, usually the ATM will only allow a certain
> max withdrawal. It's also uncommon to have more than one denomination (though
> some do have 2 types).
>
> Perhaps
On 2019-02-14 08:28, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Am Do., 14. Feb. 2019 um 08:19 Uhr schrieb Colin Smale
> :
>
>> Tagging min and max withdrawals on the ATM is asking for confusion. The
>> normal limits are set by the card issuer,
>
> by the network. Most (?) car
Tagging min and max withdrawals on the ATM is asking for confusion. The
normal limits are set by the card issuer, and I can see many people
mistakenly putting their personal card limits into these tags on the
ATM.
More relevant here would be the denomination mix. ATMs have a fixed
number of
On 2019-02-09 15:23, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
> On the natural=tree page I stumbled over the phrase:
>
> "Tree rows ... This approach can also be combined with individually mapped
> trees for further details."
>
> On natural=tree_row I found it was part of the 2010 proposal which said:
> "if
On 2018-12-28 22:52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Generally, a pavilion will only have one floor (no basement, no upper
> floors), will usually have sleeping possibilities, will not be big. MIght
> also be just a roof.
> I am not completely sure about this being a requirement, but I would
On 2018-12-14 15:23, Paul Allen wrote:
> Even so, the primary distinction between a jobbing printer and a
> newspaper/book printer is not
> the equipment used or the size of the operation but the type of output. That
> said, jobbing printers
> tend to be smaller than newspaper/book printers
On 2018-12-12 08:51, Markus wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 at 11:49, Colin Smale wrote:
> Check out Sydney, where they are using APS for some urban parts of a light
> rail system:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBD_and_South_East_Light_Rail
>
> Never say never... Even i
On 2018-12-09 22:30, Markus wrote:
> Thank you, Mateusz and Colin, i haven't thought of curve radii and signalling.
>
> By the way, i deliberately didn't mention the Bordeaux system because
> it's uncommon and not a metro (but some kind of tram).
Check out Sydney, where they are using APS for
On 9 December 2018 17:37:21 CET, Markus wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I'm still wondering if there is a technical difference between
>embedded tram, train and now metro rails (except for a third rail,
>which usually can't be embedded in a street).
It can and is popular in France.. Check out APS (alimentation
On 2018-12-01 03:31, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Yep, this
> https://www.google.com/maps/@-28.1021508,153.4242644,3a,60y,177.95h,111.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEcT3AiOK4QyKpuF45oC9Aw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
> is a 2-way radio antenna of some sort, & that's about all I'm qualified, &
> interested :-),
And just to add to the confusion, there are usually three antennas per
BTS, which cover ~120 degree sectors, so the RF power can be adjusted in
each sector individually to give the desired amount of overlap with
adjacent cells.
So in terms of physical things to map, we have at least locations,
On 2018-11-17 16:35, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 3:52 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick
> wrote:
>
>> Should EU:NATO be a colon or a semi-colon?
>
> According to the French, it should be EU;OTAN. :)
If you are going to pick nits, get it right... In French it is UE;OTAN
On 2018-11-12 22:00, Warin wrote:
> On 13/11/18 01:07, Allan Mustard wrote:
>
>> Not contrived at all in these days of tight budgets. I see no reason the
>> inverse would not work. I'll add it.
>
> I think there are too many things in the proposal. Keep it simple. Yes the
> 'extras' might
On 2018-11-11 21:51, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Just for the sake of asking a theoretical question that I know would probably
> never appear in real life :-)
>
> Would / could you also use the multi-letter codes as you show eg NATO, WTO,
> SEATO?
>
> & a mixture of them, so the British
On 2018-11-11 11:27, Warin wrote:
> On 11/11/18 20:05, Colin Smale wrote:
>
> On 2018-11-11 07:49, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>
> But wouldn't it be covered by the name eg "Australian Embassy to Russia"?
>
> We should not rely on free-text fields li
On 2018-11-11 07:49, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> But wouldn't it be covered by the name eg "Australian Embassy to Russia"?
We should not rely on free-text fields like "name" to convey information
that belongs in a structured form...___
Tagging mailing
On 2018-11-04 01:20, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:10 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick
> wrote:
>
>> Question though (more for someone in Europe) - is a "Member of the European
>> Parliament" elected, or just appointed by their home country? Are they a
>> "politician" as such?
>
>
The activity of a prison is on behalf of a government, pursuant to a
statutory duty of the government to administer justice. That its
operation is outsourced to a private company doesn't change that fact.
You can't just start your own prison - it is a state monopoly.
Public transport may be a
ty is considered a government agency, even though it is incorporated in
> Delaware as a corporation, has a board of directors, and so on. If the CCC
> had an office, it would be tagged office=government, but since CCC only
> exists on paper, we
mappers don't really have to worry about it :-) On
The answer will depend on whether we are talking about landuse,
building, office or amenity.
Waste disposal is (in Europe) usually a statutory task, performed by a
commercial company on behalf of some government. If it is open to the
public, then the "amenity" provided is waste disposal /
On 2018-10-26 18:41, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 10:27 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In OSM I would expect the term government not to be a foreign government but
>> a resident one.
>
> Uniquely, Italy hosts its own embassy to the Holy See (aka Vatican
On 2018-10-26 03:26, Allan Mustard wrote:
> Under the legal doctrine of extraterritoriality, the embassy or consulate is
> considered to be located in the sending country for purposes of legal
> jurisdiction. Extraterritoriality is virtually unlimited in the case of an
> embassy; it is more
On 2018-10-25 06:42, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 11:41, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Err no.
>>
>> The 'government' is not 'foreign' but of federal/state/local jurisdiction to
>> that place.
>>
>> landuse=diplomatic???
>
> Yes, but that patch of ground is
On 2018-10-23 23:15, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:21 PM Colin Smale wrote:
>
>> What's your point, Paul?
>
> That there are distinctions between embassies and consulates.
And now back to the discussion in hand
An embassy must be tagged/taggable t
On 2018-10-23 20:50, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 7:18 PM Colin Smale wrote:
>
>> I know this is a big generalisation, but I hope you will agree there is an
>> important difference.
>
> An even bigger difference is that Consulate have a menthol fi
, Allan Mustard wrote:
> Colin Smale wrote:
>>
>> The location of an embassy in the capital is surely not prescribed by law,
>> but by expedience isn't it? The ambassador wants/needs to be near the action
>> in order to carry out their primary role - interf
On 2018-10-23 15:57, Allan Mustard wrote:
> Regarding Warin's comment,
>
>> They did conform to the 'rule' of embassy/high commission only in the
>> capital.
>
> There is a small number of highly visible exceptions to the rule of embassies
> and of missions equivalent to embassies being
.
On 2018-10-09 23:40, yo paseopor wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:16 PM Colin Smale wrote:
>
>> I can think of a couple of non-trivial cases which will need to be handled:
>>
>> 1) multiple signs on a single post
>
> As Finnish people do we can add subkey :2
I can think of a couple of non-trivial cases which will need to be
handled:
1) multiple signs on a single post
2) signs with a dependent (qualifier) sign, such as "except for buses"
3) one or more signs on a larger panel - too large to represent as a
node
4) signs applying only to certain
rd", "rapids ahead, grade 2". For this case, it
> would be harder to use river sections that overlap.
>
> Also, if you wanted to download all the parts of the river into a
> spreadsheet, it wouldn't be easy to analyze the data if ways overlap.
>
> I do like
e extent of these features may be well
defined, but they may not be so sharp. My thought is that this freedom
to allow overlaps is important. Any comments?
On 2018-09-29 00:11, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 at 06:32, Colin Smale wrote:
>
>> The point of raising
On 2018-09-28 07:37, Dave Swarthout wrote:
> The discussion about the definition of "reach" is interesting but IMO it's
> slightly off topic. Perhaps, because of those differences in its
> interpretation, we would be best served by not using the term at all.
The point of raising the "reach"
I guess this can also apply to named straight bits as well?
http://onthethames.net/reaches-river-thames/
On 2018-09-27 11:58, Dave Swarthout wrote:
> I'm working on adding islands and other features in the Tanana River in
> Alaska. There are many named sloughs (side channels), islands and in
On 2018-09-27 07:17, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> & when you say survey with GPS, is that accurate enough for an altitude
> reading? With my Garmin GPS (which admittedly is 10 - 15 years old, but
> _wasn't_ a cheap one!), I can calibrate it in the back yard at 6m ASL, go for
> a day trip & when
On 2018-09-26 06:32, Mark Wagner wrote:
> That's not what I said. To repeat, my point is that, at least locally,
> a signposted speed limit *is* a guarantee that, for an ordinary vehicle
> traveling under ordinary conditions, the speed is reasonable. An
> unsigned speed limit, on the other
On 2018-09-25 13:07, Marc Gemis wrote:
> However, I'm not sure whether gastronomic is the proper
> British-English word to use. I think the Brits are already using
> building=pub (perhaps only for a subclass of your 'gastronomic'.
The predicate "gastronomic" implies a certain level of quality,
On 2018-09-22 23:54, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> sent from a phone
>
>> On 22. Sep 2018, at 17:53, Colin Smale wrote:
>>
>> Opening_hours should cover this, i.e. when can the public just turn up and
>> speak to someone. But that is not going to be an emergency.
On 2018-09-22 22:50, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> A toll_bridge [1] is a bridge for which you have to pay to pass,
> highway=toll_bridge should be a highway that is a toll-bridge, not a
> mechanical structure that is installed above a road to check the passing
> traffic. This would be a gantry [2]
On 2018-09-22 17:24, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> The thing about a (non-) emergency police station could be that some police
> stations close (at night, at noon, on weekends), so you would not rely on
> them for emergencies.
In an emergency you don't go to the {police,ambulance,fire} station,
Well said, I agree wholeheartedly. A local, anecdotal view is in itself
not enough to produce a data model that works for everyone.
On 2018-09-22 14:22, Tobias Zwick wrote:
> Tagging an implicit speed limit explicitly for example in town with
> maxspeed=50 is straightforward enough for Germany.
tag
> on the area, or the other way round? Are landuses supposed to be for larger
> areas?
>
> 21 сент. 2018 г., в 9:58, Colin Smale написал(а):
>
> What about landuse=ambulance_station on the area? What would the landuse be
> otherwise?
>
> Asking for a friend...
&
What about landuse=ambulance_station on the area? What would the landuse
be otherwise?
Asking for a friend...
On 2018-09-21 10:47, dktue wrote:
> How about ambulance stations?
>
> Should we tag the area with emergency=ambulance_station and the building with
> building=ambulance_station?
>
>
On 2018-09-20 12:22, John Willis wrote:
>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Colin Smale wrote:
>>
>> Maybe it's just me, but I really can't understand why landuse for government
>> functions needs its own tagging. The buildings are often indistinguishable
>> from
Maybe it's just me, but I really can't understand why landuse for
government functions needs its own tagging. The buildings are often
indistinguishable from commercial properties - what is different is that
the occupier is some statutory organisation. We don't tag
landuse=charity, or
In many countries in Europe, the "Welcome to XXX" sign as you enter a
town/village has the effect of delineating the "built-up area" for
traffic purposes and introduces a specific speed limit, without any
numbers being mentioned. In the countries I know in Northern Europe it
means "maxspeed=50
A "maximum" speed does not mean an "advised" speed. If you are driving
at an unsuitable speed, below the posted maximum, in Europe you will not
get a ticket for "speeding" as such but you may get one for "dangerous
driving" or something similar. The obligation to drive in a safe way
overrides all
ight be required to make that clear. Or does everything that can have a name
> need to fit in with this?"
>
> Not only streets. Everything with a name=* tag has the same issues
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 11:02 PM Colin Smale wrote:
>
> On 2018-09-15 15:18,
On 2018-09-15 15:18, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> Re: "A default should not require multiple values! It is the single value to
> be used in the absence of an explicit value. If you think you need multiple
> defaults, see my comment above about different contexts."
>
> The idea is to allow a
On 2018-09-15 06:33, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> I like the word "default"; it doesn't make a value judgement or have positive
> / negative connotations. And it sounds like it has to do with how the
> database should function, which is the right idea. The most common language
> used for names
On 2018-09-14 08:47, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> I'd go for a mixed approach - tag the (largest useful) administrative
> boundary first, and then allow lower level admin boundaries and finally,
> place nodes, to override the default.
Sounds good! Let's use that approach for e.g. maxspeed as well. It
On 2018-09-11 08:27, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> We will need to be a little pragmatic, because OSM mappers are never going to
> be able to do a proper survey of the coastline
> I agree, but we also can't easily say where the tidal limit reaches?
In most cases the state mapping or hydrography
On 2018-09-10 11:34, Colin Smale wrote:
> On 2018-09-10 11:25, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
> 2018-09-10 10:41 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale :
>
> The baseline is defined by the state, in accordance with the UNCLOS rules,
> and published to the world by deposition with
On 2018-09-10 11:25, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2018-09-10 10:41 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale :
>
>> The baseline is defined by the state, in accordance with the UNCLOS rules,
>> and published to the world by deposition with the UN. The basis for the
>> baseline
On 2018-09-10 10:30, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> On 10. Sep 2018, at 02:09, Joseph Eisenberg
>> wrote:
>>
>> The legal definition of the baseline is the low tide line and also cuts
>> across bays, inlets and estuaries.
>
> I thought the baseline was generally defined politically/legally.
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