[Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

ll the kinds of those bicycle type not just a part of them. Taginfo doesn't help me here. Tags would be : amenity=bicycle_parking [english for freight bicycle]=designated The access key could be use also for other features like ramp, barrier, elevator... --

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

and > other bikes. What about France? > > Cheers Martin > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Florimond Berthoux __

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

e else has already implemented the > prefect tagging scheme somewhere. > > Volker > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

epend on the other access keys, I think the wiki is clear https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Ddesignated "The value designated is not meant to imply that OpenStreetMap access=* permissions have been automatically "designated" only to that transport mod

Re: [Tagging] Cycle boxes for two-stage left turns

law here but only if there is a traffic sign saying this obligation. mandatory=yes ? -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

ign motor_vehicle=designated you know that a motorcycle and a > motorcar are both permitted on the way. > IIRR the thread about cargo bicycle parking went dead without providing > answers about implications or legalities, that’s why I was asking again. > > Cheers Martin -- Florimond Be

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

king. > > I think maybe another optional tag for route relations might be useful, perhaps just function=recreational/practical or something. > > -- > Joost Schouppe -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

ther way around. > I do not foresee significant mapping of these purposes. > > Best, Peter Elderson > > > Op do 9 jan. 2020 om 15:08 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer < > dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > >> Am Do., 9. Jan. 2020 um 10:41 Uhr schrieb Florimond Berthoux < >

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

Le jeu. 9 janv. 2020 à 22:05, Peter Elderson a écrit : > > Florimond Berthoux het volgende geschreven: >  > Ok, you need examples : > this Eurovelo 3 is for tourism > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9351172#map=12/48.8454/2.4130&layers=C > this REVe Nord-Sud

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

:type though I guess that'd be rare. For other relations I don't know, I don't map or use them much. However I guess that road relation can have a road:type=* tag also. What do you think ? -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 21:20, marc marc a écrit : > > Le 11.01.20 à 21:05, Florimond Berthoux a écrit : > > What do you think ? > > avoid the word "type" in a key as it as no additional meaning. > type can be everything (type of operator, difficulty, use,

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 22:22, Peter Elderson a écrit : > > Florimond Berthoux : >> >> So I propose to use for bicycle route >> bicycle:type=trekking/road_bike/commute/mtb >> > > I don't think commute is a type of bicycle? Trekking maybe, but here

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

tag the distinction. > > Fortunately, database users (like routing applications) can look at > other Openstreetmap data, like surface=* tags on ways, and external > data like elevation models, to determine if a route is a difficult >

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

Schouppe > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant

Water Project progressive web app powered by OpenStreetMap, > Wikidata and Wikimedia Commons data can be found : > https://europeanwaterproject.org > > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.o

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant

er Project < europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> a écrit : >> >> 5. Re: Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant >> (Florimond Berthoux) >> >>>> Hello Florimond, While I don't necessarily feel the solution you propose is preferable, I do share your love of KISS

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant

e optional though we can use drinking_water:fee. drinking_water in a cafe can be assumed to not be self_service by default. -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water

t would seem to make sense to explain why they believe their set of tags is the best. > > I hope this can help expedite the process. > > Best regards, > > Stuart -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water

es, bars, clubs and restaurants willing to participate in the refill > revolution. And that the bottle precision might only be necessary for those > refusing bottles and insisting on serving a glass of water. I agree. -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagg

Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water

t;=> drinking_water:fee=free_for_customers -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water

>> >> Cheers Martin >> >> >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Continuous Sidewalk or Cycleway

ways of a feature. Helpful comments are welcome. -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Continuous Sidewalk or Cycleway

as separate ways > but with sidewalk=yes? > > > > > > Best, Peter Elderson > > > ___ > > > Tagging mailing list > > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > &g

Re: [Tagging] Continuous Sidewalk or Cycleway

Le sam. 25 janv. 2020 à 15:19, Peter Elderson a écrit : > Florimond Berthoux : > >> With a table the pedestrians have to cross the road, it is the opposite >> for the continuous sidewalk that's why I'm in favor to add a new value >> > traffic_calming=continuo

Re: [Tagging] Continuous Sidewalk or Cycleway

it > still has crossings with the roads.which can and often will differ, so IMO > the crossing nodes would carry the attributes. > > Well, I have given my thoughts, good luck with the proposal! > > Best, Peter Elderson > -- Florimond Berthoux ___

Re: [Tagging] Continuous Sidewalk or Cycleway

faik) 2) cycleway > -> blue 3) combined foot-cycleway (as sidewalk) > -> light blue 4) segregated foot-cycleway (as sidewalk; with separate lanes for > pedestrians and bicycles) > -> blue + one outline in green > Volker > check ht

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

ided_lock,* > > > ??? > Useless I think, bicycle_parking is good enough for that. -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

ornamental or otherwise). It's not a spring. > > -- > Paul > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] highway=path for *all* mixed foot/bicycle highways?&In-Reply-To=<88cad950-d9cc-3c2e-9015-a54d7206a...@gmx.com>

or foot-cycle-way is very frequent in some >> countries. So it's there. I would not deprecate other tagging practices >> though. >> >> _______ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] highway=path for *all* mixed foot/bicycle highways?&In-Reply-To=<88cad950-d9cc-3c2e-9015-a54d7206a...@gmx.com>

; > When I look at it what I'm hearing is whoosh: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Richard/diary/20333 > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetma

Re: [Tagging] implied surface values?

; unsurveyed surface=asphalt tags to many roads in the UK which I find > quite irritating. > > ael > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] implied surface values?

learly what it is from > the satellite imagery (like surface=grass). > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

[1] and would be a good > counter-value for "removable". > > Hauke > > [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bollard > [1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=bollard#values > > ___ > Tagging mailing li

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

So I guess you'll be against mapping roads also ? 1.35 millions deaths, that something to consider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate Le dim. 16 févr. 2020 à 22:52, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> a écrit : > On 16/2/20 10:29 pm, Florimond

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi

s quite confusing for travelers who > generally expect a "taxi" to be 4-wheeled motorcar capable of carrying > 4 people and luggage. So a different tag is proposed to avoid > confusion and more precisely tag these features. > > - Joseph Eisenberg &

Re: [Tagging] Tagging venues which give away free condoms?

s? Fears? Dreams? 🙂) > > > -- > Rory > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi

paces in congested cities and rural > areas with narrow roads and paths. Motorcar taxicabs with 4 wheels in > 2 tracks cannot access {{tag|highway|path}} features and narrow roads, > but motorcycles may be permitted and feasible due to their narrow > width and single track. > > So a differen

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

_____ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

aches for. > > I think the leisure=track approach could work, bu let's look around a bit > first. > I am not familiar with the tagging, but I have seen in the US designated > areas and tracks for 4wd vehicles, how are those tagged? Maybe that could > be a model. > >

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

Le sam. 4 avr. 2020 à 10:18, Snusmumriken a écrit : > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 20:53 +0200, Florimond Berthoux wrote: > > For this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7wbi4wGbsg (Andrew's > > example) > > We're on the edge of tags definition : this a path limited cyc

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

ault value when you don't use a more precise > value -> mtb:scale=yes ? > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

by, who built it, who maintains it. > > >> What does this tag provide that just adding mtb:scale=* doesn't already? >> > > I guess it provides a way to say it's a mountain biking track but without > knowing or wanting to make a determination of the exact mtb:scal

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

_ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@o

Re: [Tagging] Tagging and rendering places without a name

th that knowledge. > > The tough question is when some place is considered a 'place' and may be > mapped when the name is unknown. > > I am curious about further reactions on this topic. > > Kind regards, > *Hidde Wieringa* > __

Re: [Tagging] Tagging and rendering places without a name

Le mar. 21 avr. 2020 à 06:03, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> a écrit : > On 21/4/20 5:31 am, Florimond Berthoux wrote: > > Hi Hidde, welcome, > > The wiki definition is « Used to indicate that a particular location is > known by a particular name, to indicate what sort o

Re: [Tagging] With leisure=common deprecated, Senegal & Mali need a replacement

ke leisure=pitch. And for example in Poland >> some >> sport pitch may be used for an occasional event, festival of various >> types. >> >> Note: I am unfamiliar with on-the-ground situation in Africa >> ___ >> Tag

Re: [Tagging] Doorzone bicycle lanes

say yes also for : cycleway:lane:exclusive cycleway:lane:width cycleway:lane:color etc. ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Doorzone bicycle lanes

___ Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi not approved

invented in the West? > > -- Joseph Eisenberg > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi not approved

rg > > On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 1:34 PM Florimond Berthoux < > florimond.berth...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > 5) As a French I have to give you again the universal answer : > amenity=taxi + motorcycle=yes + whateveryourvehicle=yes|designated :) > >

Re: [Tagging] Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi not approved

Le dim. 10 mai 2020 à 01:25, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > On 9. May 2020, at 22:50, Florimond Berthoux > wrote: > > Yeah, that's the point... > > Keep it simple. > You know taxi key ? You know motorcycle key ? Yeah, you can contribute > without checking yet anot

Re: [Tagging] Change of wiki page Key:access

> "except bicycles" under various traffic signs (on average in last years - > about one added every month), > in some cases it was simpler than inventing fitting tagging scheme for > really absurd cases. > ___ > Tag

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing importance of trails in OSM

or not). And if we can't organize paths hierarchically > like roads, then also context becomes irrelevant when separating footway > and cycleway from path. > > /Daniel > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing importance of trails in OSM

and and to maintain. We should use simple rules : key definition is only on its page, value definition on the its page or on the key page if there is no need for special page. Keep definition as simple as possible. -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Is it bicycle_parking=stands?

e, but rather in O shape > > > https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3ABicycle_parking_-_stand_in_ring_form.jpg > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

; > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] The saga of landuse=reservoir vs water=reservoir

en't willing to accept the > outcome of the community decision-making process? > There are no such things as "democratic process" or "community consensus" in tagging in OSM. So please, we must be tolerant with others' freedom to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

ing=multi_bump ? >> >> >> or >> traffic_calming=mini_bumps ? >> >> when they come up with something smaller that could still be micro_bumps >> ;-) >> >> >> Cheers Martin >> >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Taggi