Re: [Tagging] Busways

Am 06.11.2016 um 10:15 schrieb Tijmen Stam: On 06-11-16 02:30, Mark Wagner wrote: How sure are you that the situations are similar? A bus-only driveway giving access to a transit center and a bus-only road through a city are both "access=no, psv=designated", but they're not similar sorts of

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 5:30 PM, Tijmen Stam wrote: > With what type of highway? :-P Since they are Street-to-Station-to-Street, they are undeniably Highway=Service . It was the access=no but what about Pedestrian that reminded me that these ways had changed access (among

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On 06-11-16 22:45, Georg Feddern wrote: Am 02.11.2016 um 22:57 schrieb Tijmen Stam: On 02-11-16 20:27, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: careful with access=no, I suggest to use vehicle=no in this case, because you risk of excluding pedestrians (and other means of transport you didn't think about)

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On 07-11-16 00:06, Bill Ricker wrote: Thank you all, this thread caused me to notice my nearest mass-transit station hadn't been re-mapped since it was rebuilt ! Fix uploaded. With what type of highway? :-P ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Busways

Thank you all, this thread caused me to notice my nearest mass-transit station hadn't been re-mapped since it was rebuilt ! Fix uploaded. On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Bill Ricker wrote: > Re Access=no inadvertently excluding pedestrians : signage here is > $300 fine for

Re: [Tagging] Busways

Am 02.11.2016 um 22:57 schrieb Tijmen Stam: On 02-11-16 20:27, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: careful with access=no, I suggest to use vehicle=no in this case, because you risk of excluding pedestrians (and other means of transport you didn't think about) as well (happened around here in the

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On 06-11-16 02:30, Mark Wagner wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 16:42:47 +0100 Tijmen Stam wrote: On 03-11-16 11:55, Yves wrote: @Tijmen, IMHO there is very little chance to convince people to change the way we tag highways because of buses using them or not. Yves This

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 16:42:47 +0100 Tijmen Stam wrote: > On 03-11-16 11:55, Yves wrote: > > @Tijmen, IMHO there is very little chance to convince people to > > change the way we tag highways because of buses using them or not. > > Yves > > This saddens me, because I don't

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On 06-Nov-16 02:42 AM, Tijmen Stam wrote: On 03-11-16 11:55, Yves wrote: @Tijmen, IMHO there is very little chance to convince people to change the way we tag highways because of buses using them or not. Yves This saddens me, because I don't propose to "change the way of tagging", but to

Re: [Tagging] Busways

In fact, there is no need to document any special values of highway as far as buses are concerned !? Buses can drive on whatever highway type their operators and drivers may see fit. Yves Le 5 novembre 2016 16:42:47 GMT+01:00, Tijmen Stam a écrit : >On 03-11-16

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On 03-11-16 11:55, Yves wrote: @Tijmen, IMHO there is very little chance to convince people to change the way we tag highways because of buses using them or not. Yves This saddens me, because I don't propose to "change the way of tagging", but to "formalize the current main practice of

Re: [Tagging] Busways

@Tijmen, IMHO there is very little chance to convince people to change the way we tag highways because of buses using them or not. Yves Le 3 novembre 2016 09:01:51 GMT+01:00, althio a écrit : >My 2 cents: > >I am very much in favour of b) highway=* (all the range from

Re: [Tagging] Busways

My 2 cents: I am very much in favour of b) highway=* (all the range from motorway, link, prim./sec./tert. to service) + access/vehicle=no and bus/psv=yes/designated. Hence: > I propose expanding the highway=service to roads that are for one very > specific, non-general-public use, and the

Re: [Tagging] Busways

I look at service highways as most general highways. All highways are service highways, but residential highways are a special type, motorways are another special type and so on. So anything that is a highway but is none of these special types, then it's a service. Janko

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On 02-11-16 20:27, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Il giorno 02 nov 2016, alle ore 19:33, Hubert87 ha scritto: I think you should consider the access rights (access=no, bus=yes) and the road classification (highway=service/unclassified) as two separate

Re: [Tagging] Busways

2016-11-02 21:47 GMT+01:00 Bill Ricker : > From above discussion it sounds like it should be ptv=designated not > psv, but public bus access is PSV in the EN side of wiki; PTV is only > in DE/NL wiki ?? Maybe a wiki problem there too. > the tag is "psv". "ptv" is just a

Re: [Tagging] Busways

From above discussion it sounds like it should be ptv=designated not psv, but public bus access is PSV in the EN side of wiki; PTV is only in DE/NL wiki ?? Maybe a wiki problem there too. On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Tijmen Stam wrote: > But, your explanation if

Re: [Tagging] Busways

Am 02.11.2016 um 20:01 schrieb Tijmen Stam: On 02-11-16 19:33, Hubert87 wrote: Hi, I think you should consider the access rights (access=no, bus=yes) and the road classification (highway=service/unclassified) as two separate things. First, I'm not proposing something new, I'm proposing to

Re: [Tagging] Busways

sent from a phone > Il giorno 02 nov 2016, alle ore 19:33, Hubert87 ha scritto: > > I think you should consider the access rights (access=no, bus=yes) and the > road classification (highway=service/unclassified) as two separate things. careful with access=no, I suggest to

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On 02-11-16 19:33, Hubert87 wrote: Hi, I think you should consider the access rights (access=no, bus=yes) and the road classification (highway=service/unclassified) as two separate things. First, I'm not proposing something new, I'm proposing to formalize (by documenting on the wiki) a

Re: [Tagging] Busways

Hi, I think you should consider the access rights (access=no, bus=yes) and the road classification (highway=service/unclassified) as two separate things. Ask yourself what kind of highway-tag you would use, if the road was not limited to buses only. For me both cases you presented look fine

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On 02-11-16 07:23, Tijmen Stam wrote: In the local Dutch forum there was a discussion on how to tag what I call busways*. BTW the forum discussion was at . Note that the Dutch term "HOV" means Hoogwaardig Openbaar Vervoer or High-grade

[Tagging] Busways

In the local Dutch forum there was a discussion on how to tag what I call busways*. a) as highway=service with access=no and bus=yes (or psv=yes) e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/364983960 b) as another highway type, such as highway=unclassified in cities and the country, or

Re: [Tagging] Busways

I generally agree with this approach. When buses and bikes share a lane, I'd probably stick to cycleway=lane for the moment, or possibly cycleway=bus_lane. Richard On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 6:09 PM, esperanza espera...@no-log.org wrote: How to tag busways ? I added some cases in this wiki page

Re: [Tagging] Busways

I know nothing about busways (other than that they're a ridiculous waste of money, but that's another story!) RIchard On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:14 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: The Cambridgeshire busway is tagged highway=bus_guideway (actuaklly it is currently tagged

Re: [Tagging] Busways

http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/transport/thebusway/howitworks/ On 15/11/2010 17:16, Richard Mann wrote: I know nothing about busways (other than that they're a ridiculous waste of money, but that's another story!) RIchard On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:14 PM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:29 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.comwrote: http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/transport/thebusway/howitworks/ I think Esperanza is more talking about bus lane than such dedicated way (look the attached picture at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:busway).

Re: [Tagging] Busways

The Cambridgeshire busway is tagged highway=bus_guideway (actuaklly it is currently tagged highway=construction, construction=bus_guideway because it is delayed). We had a long discussion about this at the time. This busway is somewhat different from what's been described below because it

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On 15/11/2010 20:25, ed...@billiau.net wrote: I think that the psv is wrong as no taxi can use the O-Bahn - it is equipped with devices to destroy your motor vehicle if you attempt it Yes, likewise the Cambridgeshire one. They're signed as car trap, basically the same idea as the Dutch(?)

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On 14/11/2010 22:39, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 1:09 PM, esperanzaespera...@no-log.org wrote: Is it right to use busway or should we use another tag ? (like psv ?) psv includes taxis; use access=no bus=yes unless taxis are allowed. The definition of psv will vary by

Re: [Tagging] Busways

Yeah, he's obviously copied a page about bike lanes - there's still a couple of bike references in places. To me, a busway is a separate road just for buses (or maybe emergency vehicles as well), anything that is in a normal street is just a bus lane. Around here we have bus-ways (dedicated bus

Re: [Tagging] Busways

2010/11/16 Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com: Yeah, he's obviously copied a page about bike lanes  - there's still a couple of bike references in places.  To me, a busway is a separate road just for buses (or maybe emergency vehicles as well), anything that is in a normal street is just a bus

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On 16 November 2010 11:04, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: How do you define separate? Most of the bus lanes here are separated, but cars can cross the obstacles if they had to One bus way in Brisbane is above the rest of the road way... eg Northern Bus way...

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On 16 November 2010 11:04, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: How do you define separate? Most of the bus lanes here are separated, but cars can cross the obstacles if they had to Separate as in a totally different road, with it's own verges, bridges, tunnels etc. The buses use

[Tagging] Busways

How to tag busways ? I added some cases in this wiki page : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bus on this model : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle I add also a busway page : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:busway Is it right to use busway or should we use another tag ? (like psv

Re: [Tagging] Busways

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 1:09 PM, esperanza espera...@no-log.org wrote: Is it right to use busway or should we use another tag ? (like psv ?) psv includes taxis; use access=no bus=yes unless taxis are allowed. ___ Tagging mailing list