Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-23 Thread fly
Am 21.06.2013 22:11, schrieb Tod Fitch: I think that it would make sense to allow some of those tags to be used on the way that bounds the entire campground. For example camp_site:water=yes/no may be the same for all sites/pitches within a campground and tagging it in one place, if

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-21 Thread Tod Fitch
If I may summarize things to this point, two general proposals have been made: 1. Extend the normal street addressing to include lots, sites or pitches 2. Add a whole new set of tags specific to campsites. My camping experience has been mostly in the western United States and my views are

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote: For example *camp_site:water=yes/no* may be the same for all sites/pitches within a campground and tagging it in one place, if appropriate, assures consistency. (The campground I was looking at when I started this

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-20 Thread fly
On 18.06.2013 05:27, Paul Johnson wrote: I'm thinking it might be time to revive this proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site Interesting proposal In which, the space my 5th Wheel has been for the last half a year would be part of a site relation.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-20 Thread Erik Johansson
I think this discussion seems a lot like the one on apartment numbers we had a while back. I couldn't find it though. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:17 PM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: On 18.06.2013 05:27, Paul Johnson wrote: I'm thinking it might be time to revive this proposal:

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/20 Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com I think this discussion seems a lot like the one on apartment numbers we had a while back. I couldn't find it though. IMHO this is somehow different (you won't have named streets inside an apartment building, like you might have on a camp ground).

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO this is somehow different (you won't have named streets inside an apartment building, like you might have on a camp ground). Anyway, for apartments there is addr:door, addr:flats, addr:unit, addr:suite and

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
On 20/giu/2013, at 17:03, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Err, not quite. Pretty much any large apartment community has named streets, with addresses on those streets, albeit with red signs (permissive streets) or black signs (restricted-access streets). fine, I was writing

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO this is somehow different (you won't have named streets inside an apartment building, like you might have on a camp ground). The apartment proposals on the Wiki try to separate out those routes (which may

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
On 18/giu/2013, at 05:27, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: addr:housenumber=801 addr:street=North Mingo Road ... lot:number=252 what about addr:housenumber=801 addr:street=North Mingo Road addr:lot=252 ? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-18 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:29 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: What about addr:housenumber=801 addr:street=North Mingo Road addr:lot=252 Under current rendering, won't that create lots of little 801's all scattered on the map? Is it reasonable to expect the routing

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-18 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 18.06.2013 18:13, schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:29 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: What about addr:housenumber=801 addr:street=North Mingo Road addr:lot=252 Under current rendering, won't that create lots of little 801's all scattered on the

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-18 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.comwrote: Is it reasonable to expect the routing people to extend to lot numbers (e.g. find me lot 252 of Camp Mingo at 801 Mingo Road)? Ever order a pizza in any but the tiniest apartment complexes, campgrounds or RV sites?

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-18 Thread Elliott Plack
With bit coin? — Elliott Plack Sent from Mailbox on iPhone 5 about.me/elliottp On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.comwrote: Is it reasonable to expect the routing people to extend to lot

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
A campsite number seems a direct analog to a house number. Site 52, Evergreen Campground is a form of address that in olden days a mailman might actually have delivered to. I don't see this as a rendering hack... it seems pretty clean to me. But do place the node where the little number post

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-17 Thread Paul Johnson
As someone who lives in a campground, that's a hack. My address is similar to how most American apartment complexes or office buildings handle addresses (house number, street, unit number). On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: A campsite number seems a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-17 Thread Tod Fitch
In the case I am looking at now there is no street number for the campground. At least there is no sign indicating one nor have I seen a street number on an any map. So I guess that addr:housenumber might work. But I imagine that there are campgrounds that actually have an street number

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-17 Thread Andrew Errington
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:19:48 Tod Fitch wrote: In the case I am looking at now there is no street number for the campground. At least there is no sign indicating one nor have I seen a street number on an any map. So I guess that addr:housenumber might work. But I imagine that there are

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Instead of duplicating the campground name: addr:street=CampgroundName addr:city=CampgroundName addr:housenumber=SiteNumber How about use of addr:street for the most specific subdivision available, usually the campground name: addr:housenumber=*53* addr:street=*Upper Pines Campground*

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote: In the case I am looking at now there is no street number for the campground. At least there is no sign indicating one nor have I seen a street number on an any map. So I guess that addr:housenumber might work. But I

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.comwrote: How about use of addr:street for the most specific subdivision available, usually the campground name: addr:housenumber=*53* addr:street=*Upper Pines Campground* addr:place=*Yosemite National Park*

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-17 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm thinking it might be time to revive this proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site In which, the space my 5th Wheel has been for the last half a year would be part of a site relation. The node or closed way representing my spot would be tagged...

[Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-16 Thread Tod Fitch
I started a discussion on this on the talk-us list but the best suggestion I've had, received off list, was to ask here on the tagging list. My original thread is at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-June/011066.html Long story: While updating things in the Mt. Pinos area I